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Old 10/18/10, 1:14 PM
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Can someone tell me where I might find the requirement that an "exterior" outlet be in the vicinity of the exterior ac units?
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Old 10/18/10, 1:35 PM
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There isn't a requirement around the unit. Exterior receptacles are required at the front and back of the dwelling.




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Old 10/18/10, 1:38 PM
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Do you me the ac disconnect? If so it has to be within sight, I also believe within 50 ft.



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Thanks guys, I found it.

210.63 Heating, Air-Conditioning, and Refrigeration Equipment Outlet. A 125-volt, single phase, 15- or 20-ampere-rated receptacle outlet shall be installed at an accessible location for the servicing of heating, air-conditioning, and refrigeration equipment. The receptacle shall be located on the same level and within 7.5 m (25 ft) of the heating, air-conditioning, and refrigeration equipment. The receptacle outlet shall not be connected to the load side of the equipment disconnecting means.



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210.63 Heating, Air-Conditioning, and Refrigeration Equipment Outlet. A 125-volt, single phase, 15- or 20-ampere-rated receptacle outlet shall be installed at an accessible location for the servicing of heating, air-conditioning, and refrigeration equipment. The receptacle shall be located on the same level and within 7.5 m (25 ft) of the heating, air-conditioning, and refrigeration equipment. The receptacle outlet shall not be connected to the load side of the equipment disconnecting means.
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Old 10/18/10, 1:54 PM
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I thought you said on the outside, not a crawl space.




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Old 10/18/10, 2:07 PM
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That is exterior, usually very close to your ac units....



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Old 10/18/10, 2:24 PM
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I simply note whether GFCI outlets are installed on the exterior of the home I'm in inspecting. I'm not concerned with outlets installed within a proximity of a condenser.
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There is no requirement for one on the exterior near AC units. Only exterior receptacle requirements are on the front and rear of the home.




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210.63 Heating, Air-Conditioning, and Refrigeration Equipment Outlet. A 125-volt, single phase, 15- or 20-ampere-rated receptacle outlet shall be installed at an accessible location for the servicing of heating, air-conditioning, and refrigeration equipment. The receptacle shall be located on the same level and within 7.5 m (25 ft) of the heating, air-conditioning, and refrigeration equipment. The receptacle outlet shall not be connected to the load side of the equipment disconnecting means.
You forgot the rest of that code....

exception: A receptacle outlet shall not be required at one and two-family dwellings for the service of evaporative coolers.


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Can someone tell me where I might find the requirement that an "exterior" outlet be in the vicinity of the exterior ac units?
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Started in 1987 NEC 210.63 (bar by section) to current 2008 NEC 210.63
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Old 10/18/10, 5:56 PM
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There is no requirement for one on the exterior near AC units. Only exterior receptacle requirements are on the front and rear of the home.
Unless the required exterior outlet(s) is within 25 feet of the appliance, NEC 210.63 requires an additional outlet to be installed specifically for servicing of the appliance.

This requirement has been around for quite some time.



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Old 10/18/10, 6:57 PM
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Unless the required exterior outlet(s) is within 25 feet of the appliance, NEC 210.63 requires an additional outlet to be installed specifically for servicing of the appliance.

This requirement has been around for quite some time.
Strange. Just finished a new construction inspection an hour ago. Went past 4 homes that chose heat pumps instead of the gas furnace. Not one of them had a receptacle anywhere near the units. I also had a new heat pump install a short itme ago, with permit, at my son's house. The nearest exterior receptacle is on the far end of the home, probably 45 feet away. At first I thought maybe it is a regional thing but WA is using the 2008 NEC. Or maybe the AHJ just does not care......... imagine that. My bad.




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Old 10/18/10, 7:11 PM
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As with any code, the local AHJ has the final word.



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210.63 Heating, Air-Conditioning, and Refrigeration Equipment Outlet. A 125-volt, single phase, 15- or 20-ampere-rated receptacle outlet shall be installed at an accessible location for the servicing of heating, air-conditioning, and refrigeration equipment. The receptacle shall be located on the same level and within 7.5 m (25 ft) of the heating, air-conditioning, and refrigeration equipment. The receptacle outlet shall not be connected to the load side of the equipment disconnecting means.
I do believe that only concerns commercial applications, not residential. In 28 years as a mechanical contractor, the only time we were ever required to install conv outlets was on commercial/industrial applications in Michigan, Ohio, Washington DC and Florida.
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