Trane Heat Pump - right choice for Illinois?

[Charley L. Bottger]

Originally Posted by jreim

You are right, the heat pump likely has lots of life left, but i will disagree with you on the AC, as it likely does not.

Ah John the heat pump and the A/C unit are the same just one compressor doing both jobs

[Joseph Hagarty, CMI]

Originally Posted by cbottger

How can you recommend replacement with the unit sitting there performing as intended. We all don't have deep pockets some have to run to failure.

I prefer recommending budgeting for replacement and running to failure

My Recommendation Stands for Obtaining Estimations for Replacement NOW
(without warranty)...

[Charley L. Bottger]

Originally Posted by jhagarty

My Recommendation Stands for Obtaining Estimations for Replacement NOW
(without warranty)...

I see nothing wrong with the buyer knowing what its going to cost to replace the unit in the near future but don't hold your breath waiting for replacement before close of escrow

[John A. Reim]

Yes I was speaking of the "add on heat pump" component attached to the back of the furnace unit.

The outside compressor unit at 22 yrs of age, serving dual purposes during those years of service, both as AC and heat pump, in my opinion, based on age and industry averages, may be nearing the end of its rope. Budget for replacement. LOL!!

Seriously, thanks guys for your input. Much appreciated.

[Charley L. Bottger]

[quomponentote=jreim;773958]Yes I was speaking of the "add on heat pump" attached to the back of the furnace unit.
.[/quote]
That is just the controls not the meat of a heat pump the compressor is the big expense

[Joseph Hagarty, CMI]

Originally Posted by jreim

The outside compressor unit at 22 yrs of age, serving dual purposes during those years of service, both as AC and heat pump, in my opinion, based on age and industry averages, may be nearing the end of its rope. Budget for replacement. LOL!!

With a Manufacturer Design Life of 8 - 12 years
How can you Suggest a Heat Pump is Nearing its Design Life at 22 Years?

[Joseph Hagarty, CMI]

Originally Posted by cbottger

I see nothing wrong with the buyer knowing what its going to cost to replace the unit in the near future but don't hold your breath waiting for replacement before close of escrow

What a Seller / Bank Holder may disclose or provide is not of my concern.

A 22 Year Old Heat Pump in Pennsylvania
is in need of immediate service / replacement
no matter who holds title of the property.

[John A. Reim]

I understand where you are coming from Joe, but I have yet to see a seller's attorney who is going to agree to replace or credit a buyer for an appliance that is deemed safe and "functioning as intended" at the time of inspection. 22 years old or not. Lord knows we've all seen some ancient stuff out there that by some miracle of God is still working beautifully.

In my opinion and in my practice, I don't feel comfortable ruffling feathers and asking for replacement or credit of a functioning system. You are entitled to run your ship as you see fit just as I am mine and I don't knock you for it. It's your poragative.

I make sure my client is aware of the average lifespans of such appliances, give them the specific age of the unit, then give them the option of calling in for estimates on replacement, depending on their decision with their attorney and agent. Also, with temps what they are I stress that the AC could not be tested or verified at all.

[Bob Elliott]

Originally Posted by jreim

I understand where you are coming from Joe, but I have yet to see a seller's attorney who is going to agree to replace or credit a buyer for an appliance that is deemed safe and "functioning as intended" at the time of inspection. 22 years old or not. Lord knows we've all seen some ancient stuff out there that by some miracle of God is still working beautifully.

In my opinion and in my practice, I don't feel comfortable ruffling feathers and asking for replacement or credit of a functioning system. You are entitled to run your ship as you see fit just as I am mine and I don't knock you for it. It's your poragative.

I make sure my client is aware of the average lifespans of such appliances, give them the specific age of the unit, then give them the option of calling in for estimates on replacement, depending on their decision with their attorney and agent. Also, with temps what they are I stress that the AC could not be tested or verified at all.

John thanks for the earlier answer and personally I would just punt and have a regular HVAC guy make any recommendations on that thing.
You are not Charlie and we do not see those things in the area enough to be judgmental on life span.

That is why I narrate and explain my positions.
Hope you agree.

[Charley L. Bottger]

Originally Posted by jreim

I understand where you are coming from Joe, but I have yet to see a seller's attorney who is going to agree to replace or credit a buyer for an appliance that is deemed safe and "functioning as intended" at the time of inspection. 22 years old or not. Lord knows we've all seen some ancient stuff out there that by some miracle of God is still working beautifully.

In my opinion and in my practice, I don't feel comfortable ruffling feathers and asking for replacement or credit of a functioning system. You are entitled to run your ship as you see fit just as I am mine and I don't knock you for it. It's your poragative.

I make sure my client is aware of the average lifespans of such appliances, give them the specific age of the unit, then give them the option of calling in for estimates on replacement, depending on their decision with their attorney and agent. Also, with temps what they are I stress that the AC could not be tested or verified at all.

That is a good decision I have in the past ran across an old GE unit still operating at 32 years of age. My best advice to a client on units that have reached or exceeded the average life expectancy is to purchase a home warranty or ask the seller to pay for a warranty. Some sellers here will advertise a home warranty knowing their equipment is old