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Old 2/15/08, 7:52 PM
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Question Clearance Testing

Hey guys I am looking to find out what others are charging for clearance testing, all companies that remediate need to have a third party to do their clearance testing so what are you guys doing to promote yourselves. and what are you charging?

Also what do you guys charge for the testing of 1 room
(2 tests indoors and 1 test outdoors) to see what the spore count is.
assuming you have found mold in the crawl space.

I am going to be compiling information for my records so anything and everything will help allot.

I don't need to know how you're doing it, just pricing and promotion.

Do you think their is a bigger market than you think?


Thanks in advance.



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Old 2/15/08, 8:16 PM
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There's a lot involved. Contact a mold remediation company or a reputable environmental testing lab in your area who is familiar with final clearance testing protocols. You can't just go and suck some air and send it to a lab and be done with it. There's reports, insurance,procedures,state certifications,laws,lawsuits,yada,yada. I ran multi-million dollar asbestos abatement jobs for 15 years and did one mold remediation job about 8 years ago that was a result of a million dollar exposure lawsuit. You better have your stuff together before you start counting all that money you think you are gonna make. There's lots of liability involved.
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Old 2/15/08, 8:23 PM
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Like I said I don't need all the tech stuff, I do it now and have been doing this kind of testing, i was just trying to get feed back from others. and also pricing, and how they market to the mold removal companies. ideas only



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Old 2/15/08, 8:42 PM
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Like I said I don't need all the tech stuff, I do it now and have been doing this kind of testing, i was just trying to get feed back from others. and also pricing, and how they market to the mold removal companies. ideas only
I don't think many here on the message board that do clearance testing.Since you don't need all that "tech stuff" and you do that "testing to count those spores" I think you have a better grasp on the subject than any of us here. Good luck and I hope you educate yourself more on the testing and legal ramifications before you dig a hole and bury yourself.
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Old 2/15/08, 8:54 PM
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WOW Linas your such a class act to automatically assume that I would dig a hole and bury myself thanks allot for the vote of confidence, i can really tell your are here to support the NACHI people. Thanks again.

And for your information this was just suppose to be information only but for some reason you have decided to turn this in to something that is is not.

And besides some of us enjoying doing things that some people don't because of the fear of being sued.



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Old 2/15/08, 9:02 PM
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WOW Linas your such a class act to automatically assume that I would dig a hole and bury myself thanks allot for the vote of confidence, i can really tell your are here to support the NACHI people. Thanks again.

And for your information this was just suppose to be information only but for some reason you have decided to turn this in to something that is is not.

And besides some of us enjoying doing things that some people don't because of the fear of being sued.
Get Real.
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Old 2/15/08, 9:04 PM
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Thats mature thanks again for the great help and vote of confidence



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Thats mature thanks again for the great help and vote of confidence

Troy:

Your age is showing!! Listen to Mr. Dapkus. He's obviously had a lot of experience dealing with situations where a small "wrong" decision or action can result in lawyer "dogs" at your door.
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Old 2/15/08, 11:00 PM
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I was depositioned for 8 hours by a USEPA attorney from D.C. Not fun. My employer was fined and payed $500,000. Good thing my employer payed for my legal representation......and the fine. CYA

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So am I to assume that you guys (brian and Linas) don't do mold testing??

(and it has nothing to do with age)



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Originally Posted by tfarmer
Hey guys I am looking to find out what others are charging for clearance testing, all companies that remediate need to have a third party to do their clearance testing so what are you guys doing to promote yourselves. and what are you charging?

Also what do you guys charge for the testing of 1 room
(2 tests indoors and 1 test outdoors) to see what the spore count is.
assuming you have found mold in the crawl space.

I am going to be compiling information for my records so anything and everything will help allot.

I don't need to know how you're doing it, just pricing and promotion.

Do you think their is a bigger market than you think?


Thanks in advance.
Troy,
I do mold sampling quite a bit. It is a decent supplement for the business. There is quite a bit of liability involved especially the inspection end. I do not recommend clearance testing as I refer to it as follow up and make it clear as I do with the initial testing that results cover only at the time of sampling. If they want it cleared then call an Industrial Hygienist in. Long story short, I think it is okay to go out and test following a remediation job. But as with home inspection "Cover your Backside and make it clear"
Good luck,
Randy
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Old 2/16/08, 6:19 PM
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As a mould & asbestos remediator I can tell you we pay a third party between $4,000.00 -$5,000.00 per job. This includes initial testing air & possibly swab including all their required reports & lab reports and final or clearance testing when we've completed our work. Doug
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Default Re: Clearance Testing

Originally Posted by tfarmer
Hey guys I am looking to find out what others are charging for clearance testing, all companies that remediate need to have a third party to do their clearance testing so what are you guys doing to promote yourselves. and what are you charging?

Also what do you guys charge for the testing of 1 room
(2 tests indoors and 1 test outdoors) to see what the spore count is.
assuming you have found mold in the crawl space.


Most people involved in clearing a mold project, feel the mold assessor clearing the job gets the liability for the cleanup if something is missed.
If you don't include a visual inspection, how will you know the cleanup was successful. No insurance for mold? make sure you have a corporation or LLC.

What do you think of the EPA statement:
Considering Bioaerosol Sampling
http://www.epa.gov/mold/moldcourse/chapter7/lesson2.html

"remember that a negative sampling report must not be used in place of a visual survey. Factors such as barometric pressure, inside and outside temperatures, activity levels, and humidity may dramatically reduce or increase the spore levels within a building. Air sampling for mold provides information on what was in the air only for the moment when the sampling occurred. It is important, therefore, that sampling not replace visual inspection."

or this statement from:
Fungal Contamination:
"A Manual For Investigation, Remediation And Control"
By: Hollace S. Bailey, PE, CIAQP, CIE, CMR
www.becifl.com


"The overall visual observations made of the building must be considered in combination with the results of any testing, to determine the overall condition of the building. Test results alone should never be considered to give a definitive account of the building's condition."
Good Luck
Doug Wall, CIE
www.naplesmoldinspection.com
www.radonmoldhelp.com
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