The debate goes on and on

[Charley L. Bottger]

Found this article interesting about the debate of bleach in the use of cleaning mold



Stachybotrys Chartarum (atra)
What You Need to Know!

What is Stachybotrys?
Stachybotrys, commonly called “stachy,” is a greenish-black, slimy mold found only on cellulose products (such as wood or paper) that have been wet for several days or more. The mold does not grow on concrete, linoleum or tile.
How is a person exposed to Stachybotrys?
Stachybotrys and some other fungi may produce several toxic chemicals called mycotoxins. Mycotoxins can be present in spores and small mold fragments released into the air. Once the mold fragments, mycotoxins and spores are in the air, individuals may breathe them into their lungs.
What are the symptoms of exposure to Stachybotrys mycotoxins?
Symptoms of exposure to mycotoxins include coughing, wheezing, runny nose, irritated eyes or throat, skin rash and diarrhea. Since these symptoms are general in nature, they also can be caused by a cold, influenza or exposure to other allergens. It is not known what level of mycotoxin from Stachybotrys must be present in the air to cause these symptoms.
In 1994, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) investigated whether exposure to Stachybotrys might be related to pulmonary hemorrhage, also known as bleeding lungs, in infants in Cleveland, Ohio. While the CDC initially concluded that there was a possible link between exposure to the mold and the condition, Stachybotrys was not found in the homes of seven children with bleeding lungs identified in the Chicago area between April 1992 and January 1995. A subsequent review of the Cleveland study by a group of CDC experts concluded that a link between exposure to Stachybotrys and bleeding lungs in infants was not proven.
What should I do if mold is found in my home?
Any mold can cause a health effect under the right conditions. While some reports exaggerate the severity of possible health effects, it is important to handle all molds with caution.
Testing for molds is very difficult and expensive, and it cannot determine whether health effects will occur. Due to these uncertainties, the Illinois Department of Public Health does not recommend testing for molds in most cases. If you can see or smell mold, testing is not necessary; it needs to be cleaned up.
How can I clean moldy surfaces?
It is important to make sure that the source of moisture is stopped before the mold is cleaned up.
If this is not done, the mold will grow again. How you clean up areas contaminated with mold depends on the surface where the mold is growing. A professional should be consulted if large areas (more than 30 square feet) are contaminated with mold. If the surface is non-porous (varnished wood, tile, etc.), you can take the following steps.
1. The surfaces first need to be cleaned with soap.

• Use a non-ammonia soap or detergent in hot water and scrub the entire area affected by the mold. Never mix bleach with ammonia; the fumes are toxic.
• Use a stiff brush or cleaning pad on block walls or uneven surfaces.
• Rinse clean with water.

2. The next step is to disinfect the surfaces to help prevent mold from coming back.

• Disinfect the area with a solution of household bleach (½ cup of bleach per gallon of water). Straight bleach will not be more effective. When mixing or using the solution, make sure the windows are open.
• For spraying large exterior areas, a garden hose and nozzle can be used.
• Let disinfecting areas dry naturally. This extended time is important to kill all the mold.

How can I reduce my exposure to the mold while cleaning it up?
During the cleanup of molds, many spores may be released into the air. Mold counts in air are typically 10 to 1,000 times higher than background levels during the cleaning and removal of mold-damaged materials. To prevent health effects, there are several ways you can protect yourself while cleaning up the mold.

• Anyone with a chronic illness, such as asthma or emphysema, should not do the cleanup.
• Use a HEPA filter respirator purchased from a hardware store to reduce the mold spores you breathe in.
• Wear protective clothing that is easily cleaned or discarded.
• Wear rubber gloves.
• Do not allow family members or bystanders to be present when you are doing the cleanup.
• Work over short time spans and take breaks in a fresh air location.
• Open the windows in your house during and after the cleanup.
• Shut off heat or air conditioning to prevent mold spores from being spread around the home.
• Tightly cover the air return vent if there is one in the affected area.
• Turn on an exhaust fan or place a fan in a window to blow air out of the affected room to the outside (make sure the air is being blown outside the home, not into another room).
• Double bag materials before you remove them from the contaminated area.

Where can I get more information?
Illinois Department of Public Health
Division of Environmental Health
525 W. Jefferson St.
Springfield, IL 62761
217-782-5830
TTY (hearing impaired use only) 800-547-0466

[Brian A. MacNeish]

"Due to these uncertainties, the Illinois Department of Public Health does not recommend testing for molds in most cases. If you can see or smell mold, testing is not necessary; it needs to be cleaned up."

Some common sense to break the "Mold is gold" mentality!!!

[Bob Elliott]

Yeah ..when they have an exact definition of how much gets you sick I will believe the hype.
It is an indication of a problem , or symtom.It is not the problem in and of itself except to those sensitive to such things.Bleach has been used to clean it up for a long time.

[dplummer]

Just for argument sake. Once you've had an area remediated or cleaned up, how do you know if you've been successful. I guess what I'm trying to say is how do you know all the mould spores (air borne) have been removed if you don't do a air test? Or how do you locate a mould problem behind a wall if you don't visibly see it? Testing does have a place along with moisture testing, black lights, thermal hygrometers & thermal imaging. Doug