InterNACHI


Go Back   InterNACHI Inspection Forum > Specific Inspection Topics > Ancillary Inspection Services & Additional Topics

Notices

Ancillary Inspection Services & Additional Topics Contains discussions about Radon, Wood Infestation, Water Quality, Well, Septic, Lead, Asbestos, Pool, and Mold inspections.

 
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #16  
Old 1/3/08, 7:41 AM
Brian A. MacNeish Brian A. MacNeish is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: CANADA
Posts: 4,638
Please Note: Brian A. MacNeish is a non-member guest and is in no way affiliated with InterNACHI or its members.
Default Re: FL DOH / EPA study radon Southwest Florida

Quote:
Originally Posted by gromicko
Except for the one that analyzes charcoal kits. Modesty prevents me from telling you who wrote that algorithm .

Anyway, the problem with commercial buildings isn't typically solved by increasing air exchange. You could double the air exchange rate and only cut the radon level in half by dilution. The problem stems from commercial buildings operating under negative presssure due to, mostly, stack effect.
But if the radon source is not the geology beneath the structure, the chimney/stack effect will not be introducing much, if any, radon into interior spaces. One of the radon consultants mentioned above claims sometimes only a few hours of air exchange per day are enough to lower radon concentrations to or below recommended maximum limits.

Last edited by Brian A. MacNeish; 1/3/08 at 8:16 AM..
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 1/3/08, 12:20 PM
Nick Gromicko's Avatar
Nick Gromicko Nick Gromicko is online now
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Valley Forge, PA
Posts: 30,614
Default Re: FL DOH / EPA study radon Southwest Florida

Brian writes
Quote:
One of the radon consultants mentioned above claims sometimes only a few hours of air exchange per day are enough to lower radon concentrations to or below recommended maximum limits.
What does he mean by "a few hours of air exchange"? Makes no sense. That isn't a rate of exchange.

The question isn't does the air exchange, all buildings exchange air. What matters is change in current rate. Increase the rate from its current rate and the radon levels lowers. Increase it some more and the radon level lowers some more.

Now if it is a tight building, lowering radon by increasing exchange rate becomes easy because the rate can be increased dramatically, but if the exchange rate is already high, lowering radon by increasing exchange rate becomes difficult because the change in rate will be less dramatic.



Nick Gromicko, Certified Master Inspector

Find a Home Inspector
"Just as iron sharpens iron, one man sharpens another." Proverbs 27:17
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 1/3/08, 2:35 PM
Brian A. MacNeish Brian A. MacNeish is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: CANADA
Posts: 4,638
Please Note: Brian A. MacNeish is a non-member guest and is in no way affiliated with InterNACHI or its members.
Default Re: FL DOH / EPA study radon Southwest Florida

Quote:
Originally Posted by gromicko
Brian writes

What does he mean by "a few hours of air exchange"? Makes no sense. That isn't a rate of exchange.
It is a nebulous term but it could be timed at 10 minutes per hour for 24 hours or 5 min every 30 min. Therefore a total of 4 hours of air exchange occur each and every day. Enough to keep levels below the recommendations, maybe. These folks seem to be knowledgeable people!!

Just found this on one of their sites: "Typically MV (mechanical ventilation) systems are installed on a timer device to cycle the fan on and off introducing a very controlled amount of fresh outside air."


The question isn't does the air exchange, all buildings exchange air. What matters is change in current rate. Increase the rate from its current rate and the radon levels lowers. Increase it some more and the radon level lowers some more.

Now if it is a tight building, lowering radon by increasing exchange rate becomes easy because the rate can be increased dramatically, but if the exchange rate is already high, lowering radon by increasing exchange rate becomes difficult because the change in rate will be less dramatic.
The last part is true but these buildings seem not to need a lot of extra exchange since it was implied many were built since the 1970's and may be fairly tight......Hasn't this, in fact, been part of the problem with raised radon levels- too little "natural" ( I hate that term; we now know better- it's not dependable) ventilation coupled with radioactive concrete.

Last edited by Brian A. MacNeish; 1/4/08 at 6:48 AM..
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Final review of Newman's radon references! Caoimhín P. Connell Ancillary Inspection Services & Additional Topics 12 10/4/08 12:23 PM
As promised - Review of Newman's second radon study Caoimhín P. Connell Ancillary Inspection Services & Additional Topics 2 1/26/07 8:05 PM
As promised - Review of Newman's first radon study Caoimhín P. Connell Ancillary Inspection Services & Additional Topics 7 1/24/07 12:21 PM
Ottawa to stiffen radon guidelines. gromicko Canadian Inspectors 1 8/16/06 5:28 AM
FL HI's who offer but don't perform radon testing should list cert #'s on website. gromicko Legislation, Licensing & Legal Issues for Inspectors 1 7/10/06 10:01 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:47 AM.


Popular Sections

:

All Sections

Inspection News

InterNACHI Membership

Inspection Standards

Inspection Education

InterNACHI Inspectors

Inspection Links

 

 

 

NACHI.ORG Statistics

 

 

no new posts