Offer meth testing without a laboratory.

[Russell Spriggs]

John, Mike runs sorta low-key that way, but his service is top notch.
He delivers reports via fax, & I use MyFax.com, so I get it as a PDF.
Give him a call!

[Russell Spriggs]

Originally Posted by kpauly

I reviewed this website awhile ago. A few differences, the Drug Detective Kit offers the testing of 6 different drug contaminations in the property. Also, I could not find the sensitivity level of the kit. I believe the test shown here uses a reagent system, which means the sensitivety level is not very high. We test for Meth at 50 billionths of a gram per ml...

Kris, there are a number of members who are open to checking out labs that can provide lab reports at $45 or less . . .

[kpauly]

Originally Posted by rspriggs

Kris, how much is lab-testing? You mention it in the video (good one, BTW!).
I don't want to be the final one to have my butt hanging out over a "blown deal"-
That's the best reason to have a lab make the final say-so (I'm in my 3rd year of meth testing services; among the 1st NACHI members to offer it).

Hi Russell... My dealings with lab confirmation is in the law enforcement area. I am checking on this and will post more information in a day or so. I recommend that the inspector hold onto the remaining solution, tape it, bag it and label it in case you need confirmation. It is extra money you don't need to spend unless something goes wrong. These tests are extremely accurate. Our biggest concern is if the trace amount we are finding is to sensitive. The mechanics of the test don't allow for false positives. I hope that answers the question...

[John M. Acaron]

Kris, do you have a form/report type/letter head that can be used to put together a formal report with the results of the test. I'm looking for documentation that can be provided to the client as a formal report. Charging $120.00 for (1) test (several locations) and maybe $250.00 for the report/travel/time spent & screening = $370.00 sound like a job well done . Further investigation if required at an additional cost. Do you get my point.

Many people are just afraid in purchasing a home (foreclosure) that has been used as a lab. So they want accurate and informative formal type of documentation to make the decision.

Your thoughts?

Thanks

John

[kpauly]

HI John,

I think you are right on track with your numbers... I don't have anything in the form of reports. I will see what I can get together with Nick over the next few days.... Kris

[John M. Acaron]

Kris any further info please e-maol me at: info@HOMEINSPECTORUSA.biz

Thanks!
I would love to do business with you if we can come up with the right aproach.

[Russell Spriggs]

Originally Posted by jacaron

Kris any further info please e-maol me at: info@HOMEINSPECTORUSA.biz

Thanks!
I would love to do business with you if we can come up with the right aproach.

Ditto.
Info to Russ(at)cdaInspector.com
I'd even be for swabbing the sample, giving a "verbal report", then sending it in to KP & co to have a "formal" report on letterhead emailed as a PDF, confirming the findings.
I just refuse to be the "answer man".

[Dale Duffy]

Originally Posted by jacaron

Kris any further info please e-maol me at: info@HOMEINSPECTORUSA.biz

Thanks!
I would love to do business with you if we can come up with the right aproach.

John,

Kris called me this morning, he gave me some good information and explained a little more about the testing....said he would get back to me regarding a lab to back the findings up...so I would expect him to post somewhere on the board here with more information for us all.

Sounds like something I could use doing Hotels, Rental Property, REO's, Etc, Etc.

I need more info also...I'm going to contact Dave Valley and Russ Spriggs too, since they have experience.

[Dale Duffy]

Originally Posted by rspriggs

Ditto.
Info to Russ(at)cdaInspector.com
I'd even be for swabbing the sample, giving a "verbal report", then sending it in to KP & co to have a "formal" report on letterhead emailed as a PDF, confirming the findings.
I just refuse to be the "answer man".

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There you are Russ...----

Russ,

I think there would be a good market for these simple tests, if I had the education and lab lined up to back up findings.

[kpauly]

I have done some research, and I think I have found the solution to your needs. It will take a few days, however I have a few places that will do a lab confirmation of the test kits. They need to evaluate the collection tube and buffer solution to give us a price. This will take a few days to work out the details...

I am working on a project that will allow home inspectors to take an online course to educate them on doing surface drug testing in homes and commercial properties. This will take some time, but the resource will be available soon.

Also, some great news from the state lab in CA (Dept of Justice) has evaluated the test and they could not get the test kit to fire off a false positive, try as they may... We expect a formal letter in a few weeks. This opens the doors for the kits in the entire state of CA.

[mivie]

Keep us posted Kris.

[Russell Spriggs]

Kris, bear in mind that I get lab certified results (2 kits) for $90 something, & I pass the lab's findings on to my client.
I have the cheapo swabs (http://scottcompany.com/p-mrs.htm ) that also promise no false pos or negs, that I can use for color testing.
So, to win a lot of us over that need lab results, we need to get them at a meet-or-beat price of about $45 a pop, lab letter included.
That may or may not be possible with your existing product; it may leave room for developing something else.

[John M. Acaron]

Kris the kit can be the most extraordinary test device in the market place. My problems is how I'm going to report the results to a client that he can use to go back to the seller and request either cleanup or get out of the deal without me getting into a litigation issue.

I want to be able to provide to my client a report form that indicates the process, results and summary in a quantitative way so he can move forward with something that make sense. Not me telling him "yeah" this house was a meth lab .

For example:
Mold testing report from Prolab + my report (process & summary).
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[Russell Spriggs]

Ken and a couple others ask what happened to me . .

About 2 and a half years ago, I was the first NACHI member to be certified for Meth Testing; Mike Cooper offered it to us, and only a few of us really study the Board (that's what happens when you live out in the boonies & don't get TV reception NACHI is the best show in the HooDoo Valley!), and even fewer thought it was worthwhile, but I invested the time & money.

I did a couple tests on some suspicious houses, but not much for over a year.
Sometime over a year ago, Jeanne & I were inspecting a duplex. She went & started inside the vacant half, while I started exterior & the occupied second half.

Somewhere along the line I started feeling a little forked up, loopy, disoriented, real stoner feeling. Jeanne popped her head out to ask a question, I told her I was feeling strange, she mentioned the same thing.

I realized then, what it may be. I told her to get outside, fresh air. She started giving me a story about how she still had to finish checking outlets. I insisted she get out.

She was still fixated on outlets (give a tweaker a clock to take apart, they'll be occupied for hours.)

I literally had to drag her outside - and she was fighting me.

We got partially un-doped, then I called both the agent & the client, giving my suspicions. Client authorized a swab lab test, which I did in the occupied half. Young mother, stoner looking toddler who kept babbling, and an infant.

Poisoning went clear thru the walls to the vacant half; lab confirmed meth, authorities stepped in, babies were taken from the house that was mowing down their brain cells, and after about a day we started feeling like people again.

I've been methed up several times since.

Nick asked me to write a meth course a while back, and I needed a lab for writing protocols, so I asked Dr. Shane of Pro-Lab. Turned out they don't / can't handle it at this time, so the course was never written.

I was going to help Mike Cooper re-write his course, but once I turn it over to NACHI it becomes NACHI property, so I couldn't do that to Mike.

That's why we haven't had a meth course, much as I would have liked to not only write it, but travel around to teach it.

In the meantime, please check out www.Meth360.org - you owe it to yourself, your family, your clients and your community. Take their course. It's worth it.

For those who want training now to send samples in to a lab, contact Mike Cooper, as I've posted above.

It is the Devil's Drug.

[dbucknavich]

Originally Posted by rspriggs

Ken and a couple others ask what happened to me . .

About 2 and a half years ago, I was the first NACHI member to be certified for Meth Testing; Mike Cooper offered it to us, and only a few of us really study the Board (that's what happens when you live out in the boonies & don't get TV reception NACHI is the best show in the HooDoo Valley!), and even fewer thought it was worthwhile, but I invested the time & money.

I did a couple tests on some suspicious houses, but not much for over a year.
Sometime over a year ago, Jeanne & I were inspecting a duplex. She went & started inside the vacant half, while I started exterior & the occupied second half.

Somewhere along the line I started feeling a little forked up, loopy, disoriented, real stoner feeling. Jeanne popped her head out to ask a question, I told her I was feeling strange, she mentioned the same thing.

I realized then, what it may be. I told her to get outside, fresh air. She started giving me a story about how she still had to finish checking outlets. I insisted she get out.

She was still fixated on outlets (give a tweaker a clock to take apart, they'll be occupied for hours.)

I literally had to drag her outside - and she was fighting me.

We got partially un-doped, then I called both the agent & the client, giving my suspicions. Client authorized a swab lab test, which I did in the occupied half. Young mother, stoner looking toddler who kept babbling, and an infant.

Poisoning went clear thru the walls to the vacant half; lab confirmed meth, authorities stepped in, babies were taken from the house that was mowing down their brain cells, and after about a day we started feeling like people again.

I've been methed up several times since.

Nick asked me to write a meth course a while back, and I needed a lab for writing protocols, so I asked Dr. Shane of Pro-Lab. Turned out they don't / can't handle it at this time, so the course was never written.

I was going to help Mike Cooper re-write his course, but once I turn it over to NACHI it becomes NACHI property, so I couldn't do that to Mike.

That's why we haven't had a meth course, much as I would have liked to not only write it, but travel around to teach it.

In the meantime, please check out www.Meth360.org - you owe it to yourself, your family, your clients and your community. Take their course. It's worth it.

For those who want training now to send samples in to a lab, contact Mike Cooper, as I've posted above.

It is the Devil's Drug.

Wow Russ, some story. That is a wake up call if I've ever heard one. By the way, that meth360 link did not work for me. Got another?