InterNACHI


Go Back   InterNACHI Inspection Forum > Specific Inspection Topics > Ancillary Inspection Services & Additional Topics

Notices

Ancillary Inspection Services & Additional Topics Contains discussions about Radon, Wood Infestation, Water Quality, Well, Septic, Lead, Asbestos, Pool, and Mold inspections.

 
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 6/2/11, 7:47 AM
Peter C. Russell's Avatar
Peter C. Russell Peter C. Russell is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Alton Bay NH
Posts: 3,998
Default Proper method for inspecting septic systems

Proper septic inspection method:

On April 16 2011 the State of New Hampshire change the rules and septic systems can no longer be repaired. If a septic system goes into failure a complete new system must be designed, installed by a licensed contractor and approved by the State of New Hampshire. The cost of replacing a septic system in New Hampshire could be in up wards of $15-$20 K. This article talks about the proper inspection method for inspecting a septic system and how to evaluate it’s overall condition. Whether you own a home, selling or looking to purchase, a full evaluation of the septic system should be a consideration.

Evaluate the plumbing components inside the home:

I inspect all of the interior plumbing fixture's for proper connections. I also make sure all the waste lines are properly discharging into an approved waste system. Water treatment systems can be harmful to septic systems and I evaluate where the discharge of these systems go.

Examine the inside of the treatment tank:

I open the tank and examine the inlet and outlet baffles and determine the volume of the treatment tank. I inspect the visible parts of the tank for cracks, water infiltration, corrosion, and leakage. I also take a sample from inside the tank with a sludge sampler. Similar to what is used in waste water treatment facilities. By examining the sample I can determine the amount of sludge, liquid level and scum layer. This allows me to understand whether the tank is healthy and if it needs pumping.

Distribution Box:

I inspect the distribution box for corrosion, leakage and cracks. I also make sure the D-Box is level to ensure equal flow to each pipe in the leaching field.

EDA, ( Effluent Disposal Area ) or leach field.

I will determine the location and size of the EDA. Test hole's are hand dug in different locations throughout the EDA. This allows me to examine the condition of the EDA as well as how much saturation is present. A full evaluation of the EDA is critical in determining the overall condition of the septic system.

Vacant homes:

Septic inspections can still be performed on vacant homes. Sometimes a hydraulic load test will be done by running approximately 150-200 gallons of water into the system. Septic dye may also be used to determine flow.

Reports:

My New Hampshire septic system report is comprehensive and easy to read. I include digital photographs for a better understanding of the system, components and condition.

For more information please visit: http://www.russellinspectionservices...em-inspections



Russell Inspection Services
New Hampshire state license # 57
Level I Thermographer, ITC
Certified Building Science Thermographer, ITC
Certified Building Analyst, BPI
Certified Commercial Inspector, ITA
Certified Septic Evaluator, GSDI #148

www.newenglandthermalimaging.com
www.russellinspectionservices.com
www.nhsepticinspection.com

Last edited by gromicko; 9/14/11 at 4:09 PM..
Reply With Quote
Need a home inspection in New Jersey? Check out InterNACHI's listing of New Jersey certified home inspectors. Or, find a home inspector anywhere in the world with our inspection search engine.
  #2  
Old 6/2/11, 8:14 AM
Brian A. MacNeish Brian A. MacNeish is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: CANADA
Posts: 4,638
Please Note: Brian A. MacNeish is a non-member guest and is in no way affiliated with InterNACHI or its members.
Default Re: Proper method for inspecting septic systems

Quote:
Originally Posted by prussell View Post
Proper septic inspection method:

On April 16 2011 the State of New Hampshire change the rules and septic systems can no longer be repaired. If a septic system goes into failure a complete new system must be designed, installed by a licensed contractor and approved by the State of New Hampshire. The cost of replacing a septic system in New Hampshire could be in up wards of $15-$20 K. This article talks about the proper inspection method for inspecting a septic system and how to evaluate it’s overall condition. Whether you own a home, selling or looking to purchase, a full evaluation of the septic system should be a consideration.
Does that include the tank, even it is is sized for todays' families and in good condition?


Evaluate the plumbing components inside the home:

I inspect all of the interior plumbing fixture's for proper connections. I also make sure all the waste lines are properly discharging into an approved waste system. Water treatment systems can be harmful to septic systems and I evaluate where the discharge of these systems go.
Can you discharge this effluent to a "dry well"? Here it must be discharged to the septic tank. Many septic tank pumpers and plumbing inspectors don't agree with this, but it's the law.

Examine the inside of the treatment tank:

I open the tank and examine the inlet and outlet baffles and determine the volume of the treatment tank. I inspect the visible parts of the tank for cracks, water infiltration, corrosion, and leakage. I also take a sample from inside the tank with a sludge sampler. Similar to what is used in waste water treatment facilities. By examining the sample I can determine the amount of sludge, liquid level and scum layer. This allows me to understand whether the tank is healthy and if it needs pumping.

Distribution Box:

I inspect the distribution box for corrosion, leakage and cracks. I also make sure the D-Box is level to ensure equal flow to each pipe in the leaching field.

EDA, ( Effluent Disposal Area ) or leach field.

I will determine the location and size of the EDA. Test hole's are hand dug in different locations throughout the EDA. This allows me to examine the condition of the EDA as well as how much saturation is present. A full evaluation of the EDA is critical in determining the overall condition of the septic system.

Vacant homes:

Septic inspections can still be performed on vacant homes. Sometimes a hydraulic load test will be done by running approximately 150-200 gallons of water into the system. Septic dye may also be used to determine flow.
Will this be enough for a field that has not been challenged with regular use effluent for months?

Reports:

My New Hampshire septic system report is comprehensive and easy to read. I include digital photographs for a better understanding of the system, components and condition.

For more information please visit: http://www.russellinspectionservices...ic-inspections
We don't have a training and licensing requirement for septic system evaluation here!!
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 6/2/11, 9:44 AM
Peter C. Russell's Avatar
Peter C. Russell Peter C. Russell is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Alton Bay NH
Posts: 3,998
Default Re: Proper method for inspecting septic systems

Hi Brian,
When the designer engineers the new system they may include the existing tank to stay, this will be up to NH DES to approve. In most cases, at that point you are probably better off with a new tank.

Gray water from treatment systems can go into a dry well and it's encouraged. Backwash from water treatment systems can and will kill a healthy tank.

Hydraulic load testing is not a great idea. A good evaluator should be able to examine the system and tell whether it has flooded in the past. Evidence can be seen by staining in the treatment tank, the D-box as well as in the EDA. Flooding a system can aid in the evaluation but sometimes requires a return trip the next day to observe absorption.
Hydraulic load testing should never be done through the homes plumbing system. Dumping that much water into the treatment tank will disturb the sludge and break it apart, pieces of the sludge layer can then float into the liquid layer and be carried out to the EDA, thus clogging the EDA. Hydraulic loading should be done through the outlet baffle or preferably the D-box.



Russell Inspection Services
New Hampshire state license # 57
Level I Thermographer, ITC
Certified Building Science Thermographer, ITC
Certified Building Analyst, BPI
Certified Commercial Inspector, ITA
Certified Septic Evaluator, GSDI #148

www.newenglandthermalimaging.com
www.russellinspectionservices.com
www.nhsepticinspection.com
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 6/2/11, 10:37 AM
Joseph Hagarty,  CMI's Avatar
Joseph Hagarty, CMI Joseph Hagarty,  CMI is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Parkesburg, PA
Posts: 5,636
Default Re: Proper method for inspecting septic systems

http://www.psma.net

Hydraulic Load testing is always recommended for homes vacant more than 7 days.
Also recommended if the number of current occupants are 2 or less.



Joseph P. Hagarty
joseph.hagarty@comcast.net
Main Line Inspections, Inc.
Phone: 610-399-3675
Email: MainLineHI@comcast.net

http://pa.nachi.org/mainlinepa/about.html
http://www.householdinspector.com

National President / NACHI (2003-2004)
NACHI Education Committee Member
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 6/2/11, 10:43 AM
James E. Braun, CMI's Avatar
James E. Braun, CMI James E. Braun, CMI is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Jefferson City, MO
Posts: 6,945
Default Re: Proper method for inspecting septic systems

It is very apparent that all states must inspect private systems different.



Braun Inspection Consultants
Serving Jefferson City, Columbia, Sedalia, Fulton and Lake of the Ozarks
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 6/2/11, 7:46 PM
Peter C. Russell's Avatar
Peter C. Russell Peter C. Russell is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Alton Bay NH
Posts: 3,998
Default Re: Proper method for inspecting septic systems

Quote:
Originally Posted by jhagarty View Post
http://www.psma.net

Hydraulic Load testing is always recommended for homes vacant more than 7 days.
Also recommended if the number of current occupants are 2 or less.
Joe, do you normally do the hydraulic test through the home's plumbing system or through the tank or D-box?



Russell Inspection Services
New Hampshire state license # 57
Level I Thermographer, ITC
Certified Building Science Thermographer, ITC
Certified Building Analyst, BPI
Certified Commercial Inspector, ITA
Certified Septic Evaluator, GSDI #148

www.newenglandthermalimaging.com
www.russellinspectionservices.com
www.nhsepticinspection.com
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 6/2/11, 9:40 PM
Joseph Hagarty,  CMI's Avatar
Joseph Hagarty, CMI Joseph Hagarty,  CMI is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Parkesburg, PA
Posts: 5,636
Default Re: Proper method for inspecting septic systems

Load test may be made thru Interior or introduced to the system thru the Exterior



Joseph P. Hagarty
joseph.hagarty@comcast.net
Main Line Inspections, Inc.
Phone: 610-399-3675
Email: MainLineHI@comcast.net

http://pa.nachi.org/mainlinepa/about.html
http://www.householdinspector.com

National President / NACHI (2003-2004)
NACHI Education Committee Member
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 6/2/11, 9:58 PM
Greg Bell's Avatar
Greg Bell Greg Bell is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Titusville, FL
Posts: 4,155
Default Re: Proper method for inspecting septic systems

Septic inspection now costs over $500 here.



Greg Bell
Titusville, Fl
02111507

Serving Central Florida
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 6/2/11, 10:01 PM
Joseph Hagarty,  CMI's Avatar
Joseph Hagarty, CMI Joseph Hagarty,  CMI is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Parkesburg, PA
Posts: 5,636
Default Re: Proper method for inspecting septic systems

Hydraulic Load here is $685
$275 Additional if Homeowner refuses use of the Well
and Tank trucks need to be brought in...

Refusal of use of H2O Well
ranks H2O Well as Failed...



Joseph P. Hagarty
joseph.hagarty@comcast.net
Main Line Inspections, Inc.
Phone: 610-399-3675
Email: MainLineHI@comcast.net

http://pa.nachi.org/mainlinepa/about.html
http://www.householdinspector.com

National President / NACHI (2003-2004)
NACHI Education Committee Member
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 6/3/11, 5:17 AM
Peter C. Russell's Avatar
Peter C. Russell Peter C. Russell is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Alton Bay NH
Posts: 3,998
Default Re: Proper method for inspecting septic systems

Joe, do you see many fabric based systems build with septic sand VS a stone and pipe system? They are popular around here because of their compact size, many are going into premature failure due to the contractor using cheap material under the EDA, (usually back fill from the site), There is a 7 year old sub-division here that all the systems are starting to fail because of improper material under the bed. Cost to replace is 12-15K



Russell Inspection Services
New Hampshire state license # 57
Level I Thermographer, ITC
Certified Building Science Thermographer, ITC
Certified Building Analyst, BPI
Certified Commercial Inspector, ITA
Certified Septic Evaluator, GSDI #148

www.newenglandthermalimaging.com
www.russellinspectionservices.com
www.nhsepticinspection.com
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 6/3/11, 3:06 PM
Peter C. Russell's Avatar
Peter C. Russell Peter C. Russell is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Alton Bay NH
Posts: 3,998
Default Re: Proper method for inspecting septic systems

Here is an example from todays inspection and why I don't like using the home's plumbing system for a hydraulic load test.
Home is 15 years old. 1500 gallon treatment tank, D-Box with a stone and pipe EDA.
When the underground irrigation system was installed the D-Box was struck with the Ditch Witch resulting in not only the cover being dislodged but the D-Box itself is broken. For the last 7-8 years ground water and soil have washed into the D-Box creating a thick black sludge layer in the bottom of the tank. Had a hydraulic load test been done on this system more than likely the introduction of a couple hundred gallons of water would have disturbed the sludge and caused it to migrate through the laterals and possibly clogging them.

Buyer was sure glad they hired me septic system inspection.
Attached Thumbnails
proper-method-inspecting-septic-systems-chapman-010-small-.jpg.jpg
Views:	127
Size:	92.5 KB
ID:	45215   proper-method-inspecting-septic-systems-chapman-016-small-.jpg.jpg
Views:	159
Size:	93.9 KB
ID:	45216  



Russell Inspection Services
New Hampshire state license # 57
Level I Thermographer, ITC
Certified Building Science Thermographer, ITC
Certified Building Analyst, BPI
Certified Commercial Inspector, ITA
Certified Septic Evaluator, GSDI #148

www.newenglandthermalimaging.com
www.russellinspectionservices.com
www.nhsepticinspection.com

Last edited by prussell; 6/3/11 at 3:10 PM..
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 6/8/11, 2:33 PM
Peter C. Russell's Avatar
Peter C. Russell Peter C. Russell is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Alton Bay NH
Posts: 3,998
Default Re: Proper method for inspecting septic systems

From todays inspection. 60 year old dry well for a seasonal cottage still working with no signs of failure.
Attached Thumbnails
proper-method-inspecting-septic-systems-paradis-septic-003.jpg  



Russell Inspection Services
New Hampshire state license # 57
Level I Thermographer, ITC
Certified Building Science Thermographer, ITC
Certified Building Analyst, BPI
Certified Commercial Inspector, ITA
Certified Septic Evaluator, GSDI #148

www.newenglandthermalimaging.com
www.russellinspectionservices.com
www.nhsepticinspection.com
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 6/24/11, 6:42 AM
Peter C. Russell's Avatar
Peter C. Russell Peter C. Russell is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Alton Bay NH
Posts: 3,998
Default Re: Proper method for inspecting septic systems

Re-inspected the broken D-Box yesterday. It was repaired with hydraulic cement, if fact the entire inside of the box was coated. I called the MFG. and they said it has been done and acceptable but they don't know how long it will last.
I completed the hydraulic load test and everything looked good. I recommended re-inspecting the system in one year to make sure everything is still intact.

Note the inside of the tank/repair. septic dye. inspection hole in EDA
Attached Thumbnails
proper-method-inspecting-septic-systems-chapman-reinspection-003-small-.jpg.jpg
Views:	104
Size:	68.2 KB
ID:	45811   proper-method-inspecting-septic-systems-chapman-reinspection-005-small-.jpg.jpg
Views:	101
Size:	63.0 KB
ID:	45812   proper-method-inspecting-septic-systems-chapman-reinspection-006-small-.jpg.jpg
Views:	105
Size:	99.8 KB
ID:	45813  



Russell Inspection Services
New Hampshire state license # 57
Level I Thermographer, ITC
Certified Building Science Thermographer, ITC
Certified Building Analyst, BPI
Certified Commercial Inspector, ITA
Certified Septic Evaluator, GSDI #148

www.newenglandthermalimaging.com
www.russellinspectionservices.com
www.nhsepticinspection.com
Reply With Quote
Need a home inspection in New Jersey? Check out InterNACHI's listing of New Jersey certified home inspectors. Or, find a home inspector anywhere in the world with our inspection search engine.
  #14  
Old 6/24/11, 9:03 PM
Joseph Hagarty,  CMI's Avatar
Joseph Hagarty, CMI Joseph Hagarty,  CMI is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Parkesburg, PA
Posts: 5,636
Default Re: Proper method for inspecting septic systems

Peter,

I personally do not inspect the systems.

I work with a company that has been in business many years with many generations.

For all Load Tests, they guarantee the entire system for 1 year.

With systems costing anywhere from $18,000 to $40,000 in this area (with health department review and permitting), the $600 - $1000 dollars for a load inspection is money well spent....

(Dye never used in this area except to verify connections)



Joseph P. Hagarty
joseph.hagarty@comcast.net
Main Line Inspections, Inc.
Phone: 610-399-3675
Email: MainLineHI@comcast.net

http://pa.nachi.org/mainlinepa/about.html
http://www.householdinspector.com

National President / NACHI (2003-2004)
NACHI Education Committee Member
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 6/25/11, 7:04 AM
Peter C. Russell's Avatar
Peter C. Russell Peter C. Russell is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Alton Bay NH
Posts: 3,998
Default Re: Proper method for inspecting septic systems

Thanks for the info. Joe. I like to hear how septic inspections are done throughout the country.
Septic inspections in NH are on the rise due to the change in rules by NH DES. One of the biggest problems I see is with the newer systems. Many are built without using the proper material as specified by the MFG. There have been documented failure's in my area on systems in as little as a couple of years.

During the building boom of the last few years contractors cut corners anywhere they could and septic systems are no different.



Russell Inspection Services
New Hampshire state license # 57
Level I Thermographer, ITC
Certified Building Science Thermographer, ITC
Certified Building Analyst, BPI
Certified Commercial Inspector, ITA
Certified Septic Evaluator, GSDI #148

www.newenglandthermalimaging.com
www.russellinspectionservices.com
www.nhsepticinspection.com

Last edited by prussell; 6/25/11 at 7:12 AM..
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
"UFER" Ground? see last paragraph. jtedesco1 Electrical Inspections 19 8/23/11 3:56 PM
PIC of State Rep and sponsor of new NACHI H.I. Bill in NH. gromicko Miscellaneous Discussion for Inspectors 53 8/30/06 5:58 PM
A proper sistering method.? crichiii Structural Inspections 2 7/24/06 8:29 PM
Emergency Lighting (commercial) mcyr Electrical Inspections 24 6/10/06 10:06 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:00 AM.


Popular Sections

:

All Sections

Inspection News

InterNACHI Membership

Inspection Standards

Inspection Education

InterNACHI Inspectors

Inspection Links

 

 

 

NACHI.ORG Statistics

 

 

no new posts