Sun Nuclear 1027 - Not NRSB Approved

[Joseph Hagarty, CMI]

Paul:

I have multiple CRM's as well as Rad Elec E-Perm Equipment.

Generally, to obtain a State License or NRSB Certification, proficiency must be initially demonstrated with an independant and recognized Lab such as Bowser Morner.

It has been that way for many years. Nothing has changed. You have revealed nothing new.

This applies to all types and manufacturers of radon related equipment. It is not specific to Sun Nuclear as you suggest.

[Paul W. Abernathy]

I dont suggest anything.......this is what the NRSB told me.......and based on my conversation with Sun Nuclear they knew they had to do the paperwork.

Not sure WHY i am going into this with you......it is very obvious you have taken offense to a perfectly GOOD post....that is FACTUAL.

I think you need to call NRSB and ask them...and also call Sun Nuclear and ask to speak with Laura....Ext 230 for more details.

Either way...My unit we were looking at and observing is going in the mail tomorrow.....for a credit.

FYI-

This is what the NRSB posts on their site :

Approved Measurement Devices
To assure consumers and the public that radon measurement devices are accurate and reliable, the National Radon Safety Board has created a panel for device evaluation and approval. This panel will establish procedures and protocols for the performance of proficiency tests by NRSB accredited chambers. The criteria used by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency for radon proficiency – the Draft Instrument Evaluation Program -- will be used as the basis for these criteria, and recommendations will be made to the USEPA regarding proposed changes. Devices which have met USEPA requirements will be accepted without further evaluation or testing.

Ok...when we purchased our Sun Nuclear unit I was told the calibration and chamber testing certficate would be included and it was, they are a manufacturer and do the testing of the units and the NRSB simply said they have not been approved as far as their chamber is concerned to issue the certifications for approval by their organization...THAT is all I was saying....

Are you bold enough to say that no matter WHAT device you use...they all BEFORE you use them have to be sent to an lab for this testing......hmmmm...not what RadElec has stated......and it is not what was stated to me before my firm bought one of the 1027 units........so rather than go through the hassle I got FIRST HAND from the NRSB today....it was GOOD information to post to other members.......so they dont have to do through it...

AND was confirmed by Dans post previously......I am not the only one that has experienced this....

I asked ALL these questions before we purchased the unit and it was said no problem....but problems happened....

Also on the Sun Nuclear Site it clearly states the Sun Nuclear 1027 is approved for real estate transactions by the EPA....in fact here is what it quotes :
The technology employed in the Model 1027 has been used commercially since 1986, when it was first introduced as the Model 1022, At Ease Professional Radon Tester. The Sun Nuclear Corporation, Model 1027 Professional Continuous Radon Monitor is classified as a Continuous Radon Monitor (CRM) testing device, and has been evaluated and accepted by the US EPA for use in real estate transaction testing.

So...I agree...they ARE fine units and are approved by the EPA....but when I spoke with SN today they said usually they were accepted by NRSB and they figured it was a grandfather thing or something..but said for some reason in the past 2 weeks they have cracked down and not accepted their units......because they have a chamber and do calibrations and offer the certificate as I was TOLD.....so again.....nothing was SAID about the units....looks like an AWESOME unit....just they should not have said their certificate would work if the NRSB will not allow it......thats all

[Michael W. Schweiss]

What is the NRSB?

[Wayne B. Wilson]

http://www.nrsb.org/

[Sean Fogarty]

Hi Wayne!

[Wayne B. Wilson]

Hi Sean lol