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Old 11/27/06, 11:09 PM
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Lewis,
Thank you for accepting the fact that my operation is legal; and, I am happy to send you a copy of my 2006 & 2007 Business Licenses if you were not able to find on our WashingtonState web site. Hey, why not join Steven on our fishing trip? -->>

Sorry Dennis, after my conversation with Dr. Soumi last week I know that in the view of the WSDA you are technically performing ILLEGAL Inspections, if you, in your Inspection Report mention anything that may be conducive to WDO damage and you do not have an SPI License you are in violation of the Law even if you use a Sub for the WDO Inspection. unless you Sub takes full responsibility and assumes full liability for the Home Inspection, DR. Soumi's words not mine. I've argued over this asinine law more with soumi than I have with you or any other NACHI Member, last week I asked him specifically about the use of Subs, that was his answer.
Me, I don't see anything wrong with subbing out the WDO Inspection, other than you could be putting the money in your pocket, but I didn't write the Law. Those of us who have argued with Soumi know that it is almost useless, in the end he wins by saying "It's The Law".

As far as your business licenses I did findyou under Thomas Property Management LLC, but not under TPM, llc, when I set up my LLC in WA. I had to show all the alliases or names that my LLC would be called, maybe your abbreviation isn't "registared", I was searching for the number of NACHI Inspectors in Eastern Washington who had business licenses at all, as TPM, you don't show up.

Other than making NACHI and its members look bad by your lack of SPI License, I don't care if you have one or not, but you shouldn't get upset because I mention in my marketing and on my website the Washington State Requirements and the fact that many Inspectors are not Licensed SPI's. If I buy a new IR Camera to use during Inspections I'll mention that in my marketing too.

Have you checked with your E&O Insurance provider to find out if your Sub Needs to be listed on your Policy? My Allen Insurance Policy requires it, if your sub misses something that could lead to a lawsuit, it will be you that will be sued, the sub will just be an add on.

Like Steve said, talk to Dr Soumi, not some woman in the Office.

Fly Fishing's been great, at least until all the rain the past couple of Weeks, the water in the North Fork of the CD'A River has risen way to high, hopefully it will drop with this cold weather.

http://structuralpest.wsu.edu/index.html

Yes Lewis, I am aware that I must not mention anything that has to do with water or pests invasion. I do not. Again, I have discussed this with my Sub SPI guy and he does take accountability for items that are his responsibility. That said, I do not mind sharing responsibility with him in a law suite - he is good at what he does. I too have seen very recent HI reports that do not include an SPI Report. That path is too risky for me. But, if the State makes stupid laws I will let them find the transgressors - I refuse to be their snitch.' These guy's that are not attempting to comply get their share of business and that doesn't bother me - good for them for getting away with it. (One of the things that make America great is the majority of us play the game if we are not pushed over the edge - then, well, Republicans loose their majority.)

Sorry the fly fishing went sour - if you do any winter fishing and want company let me know.

mcyr:

When I think I am able to define the motivation of those HI's that support this legislation I'll pass it on to you. For now, I just don't get why anyone would approve of the DOA law or the forthcoming "Licensing" laws. However, I would support the Licensing laws if convinced that it would eliminate the unscrupulous among us. We know better don't we?
But, if you haven't followed my thoughts on this stuff, I'll tell you that sometimes I think maybe State Licensing would be better than NACHI (and the like) monitoring. And, then I think I should just ignore it all and do what I want to do until told otherwise. It's a difficult world sometimes. Thank goodness the fish are biting.




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Old 11/27/06, 11:27 PM
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So. that makes everything right, and now we have LSPI's doing our job as a moonlight excursion and double dipping?
Something just seems wrong with this picture.
Pardon my ignorance for this part of the Country, but something just don't seem ethical in all of this.

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Marcel,

My answer to your question is that I do not mention nor include conducive or existing water or pests conditions in my HI written report. The SPI (Structural Pest Inspector) includes these in his report - his report is then attached to mine and given to the client. No lines are crossed, and completely legal. Perhaps this was the intent of the DOA - to get an SPI into every home that is being sold in Washington. As I have said above, this approach gives me more time to do a better job on the mechanical/electrical/structural elements of the home inspection. Bare in mind that our Standards/Ethical codes require that we comply with state law, and then provide the services of the Standards. All bases are covered and a thorough home inspection is accomplished without exception.
Would you like us to package up some of these "powder Beatles" and send them to you? They make a home structure look like swiss cheese.
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Yes Lewis, I am aware that I must not mention anything that has to do with water or pests invasion. I do not.>>.
Then how do you abide by the NACHI SOP or comply with the ASHI SOP like your Website says?
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Old 11/28/06, 4:18 AM
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Then how do you abide by the NACHI SOP or comply with the ASHI SOP like your Website says?


Lewis,

I just don't know how to express it more clearly than I already have. If the following doesn't settle it please clarify your concern: the NACHI & ASHI Standards direct us to comply with state law and then we can do the parts of the Standards that are not modified by state law. As I am doing as directed by our Standards (by my act of compling with state laws,) then I am in compliance with NACHI & ASHI Standards. Right?
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