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Old 10/30/06, 7:58 PM
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On the inspection today I saw few of these piles at back yard. The house is empty, so I could not ask anyone. Initially, I thought it's an aggregate or gravel covered with dirt. But when I probed it with my foot, it is all soft (you can see dents from my shoe here) It looks like a pile of mud with consistency of a dough. I wouldn't worry if it will be just one. But there were at least 3-4 of those, and all had exact same look. Does anybody know what it could be?
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Old 10/30/06, 8:00 PM
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Looks like a Mole was working.
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Old 10/30/06, 8:12 PM
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In our neck of the woods that would be a crawfish mound. Did you scrape it to the surrounding earth to see if there was an entry hole under it?
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Mole here too..or vole...
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Old 10/30/06, 10:01 PM
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from the picture I would have to vote for a mole hill. If they were close to water, I would vote for a crawdad hole. Either way. not much of a problem.
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Old 10/30/06, 10:30 PM
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Thanks everybody for replies. Living in big city, I have never seen this before. That is why I was wondering. Learning something new on each inspection. Thanks again.



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Thanks everybody for replies. Living in big city, I have never seen this before. That is why I was wondering. Learning something new on each inspection. Thanks again.
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Old 10/31/06, 12:31 AM
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Crawdads are crayfish are they not? I did not know they came out of water.

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from the picture I would have to vote for a mole hill. If they were close to water, I would vote for a crawdad hole. Either way. not much of a problem.
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Yuri
Just remembered Mud/Sand Wasps make that kind of mound as well did you see any critters flying around.

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I see piles like that all over around here and they're the entrances to vole tunnels: NACHI Wildlife Damage Inspection course. http://icwdm.org/handbook/rodents/Voles.asp


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On the inspection today I saw few of these piles at back yard. The house is empty, so I could not ask anyone. Initially, I thought it's an aggregate or gravel covered with dirt. But when I probed it with my foot, it is all soft (you can see dents from my shoe here) It looks like a pile of mud with consistency of a dough. I wouldn't worry if it will be just one. But there were at least 3-4 of those, and all had exact same look. Does anybody know what it could be?
Yuri I believe you should consult a Certified Mole Inspector to verify your findings.



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Old 10/31/06, 11:46 PM
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but...

Mole / vole hills or mounds resemble loose piles of excavated dirt (when relatively fresh) with an entrance hole anywhere in the mound. They may be more compact or solid after a rain. Size should be somewhere between 6 inches and 12 inches in diameter at the base

Crayfish mounds typically resemble cone shaped mounds of 3/4 - 1 inch diameter mud balls which have fused together and the entrance hole is typically at the very top. (Resembling a volcano) Size should be typically 4 inches to 8 inches at the base depending on the size of the "engineer". I have seen these as far away as 50 yards from a visible source of water, but only when there is a high water table present and typically in high peat type soils. I used to use them as fishing pole holders as a kid if that gives you an idea of the size of entrance/exit hole.

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but...

Mole / vole hills or mounds resemble loose piles of excavated dirt (when relatively fresh) with an entrance hole anywhere in the mound. They may be more compact or solid after a rain. Size should be somewhere between 6 inches and 12 inches in diameter at the base

Crayfish mounds typically resemble cone shaped mounds of 3/4 - 1 inch diameter mud balls which have fused together and the entrance hole is typically at the very top. (Resembling a volcano) Size should be typically 4 inches to 8 inches at the base depending on the size of the "engineer". I have seen these as far away as 50 yards from a visible source of water, but only when there is a high water table present and typically in high peat type soils. I used to use them as fishing pole holders as a kid if that gives you an idea of the size of entrance/exit hole.
William,

Yes, when constructed and no further rain is present, crayfish holes here do resemble your description. After a soaking, in our soils, they begin to collapse and start looking like the piles shown. Kicking them usually uncovers the hole underneath and they can get quite deep!

Not sure up north how much of a crayfish problem they have but here it can get downright bad. I've found them all over my property (10 acres and a tank, Texas speak for pond) and them buggers can get big and nasty! I've watched them gather and take out a large dog once that got to close to their party area (LOL LOL) (just kidding of course).


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Old 11/1/06, 10:25 PM
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Not sure up north how much of a crayfish problem they have but here it can get downright bad. I've found them all over my property (10 acres and a tank, Texas speak for pond) and them buggers can get big and nasty! I've watched them gather and take out a large dog once that got to close to their party area (LOL LOL) (just kidding of course).


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