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Old 9/30/09, 3:42 PM
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Default Why 2 Outdoor Samples?

"A mold inspector will take two outdoor air samples." Why does InterNachi and IAC2 require 2 outdoor air samples as a baseline?
Just so you know where my thinking is going on this: When you are about to answer.... stop... and ask yourself this.... If that philosophy is true about the outdoor sampling then why is the same philosophy not also true about the indoor sampling?
Can anyone get this nagging question out of my head. Please!
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Old 10/2/09, 5:46 PM
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Default Re: Why 2 Outdoor Samples?

Nobody appears to know. And when this question is pressed people get offensive.

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Old 10/2/09, 11:32 PM
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Because IAC2 SOP is written by a lab. It is laughable when you think about it.
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Old 10/3/09, 4:47 AM
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Default Re: Why 2 Outdoor Samples?

I believe Ben wrote the SOP, not a lab (though I could be wrong).



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Old 10/3/09, 8:34 AM
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Default Re: Why 2 Outdoor Samples?

It makes no sense at all to me.
I'm also shopping for a new lab that doesn't require pre-paid lab fees. I thought Linas was nuts, I now know he is a very smart guy!





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Old 10/3/09, 10:54 AM
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It makes no sense at all to me.
I'm also shopping for a new lab that doesn't require pre-paid lab fees. I thought Linas was nuts, I now know he is a very smart guy!
You're too funny Mario. EMSL does have a Canadian lab. Call Jason and he will set you up with a rep. Ask about free shipping and lab supplies.

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Old 10/3/09, 11:54 AM
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You're too funny Mario. EMSL does have a Canadian lab. Call Jason and he will set you up with a rep. Ask about free shipping and lab supplies.

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Default Re: Why 2 Outdoor Samples?

Are you guys getting your air cassettes for free or do you have to pay for they through EMSL? I have been paying for my cassettes, but only a few bucks each. With the amount of cassettes I send in to my lab, I think they should be giving them to me.
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Old 10/3/09, 3:19 PM
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I get mine for free.
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Old 10/3/09, 9:06 PM
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Default Re: Why 2 Outdoor Samples?

I had the privilege to work with a Federal Government Industrial Hygienist. He took seven indoor samples and two outdoors samples. The building was a rectangular office building wide open with two private offices. 20' x 50'

I asked him the same question: why two outdoors. He said: we average the result for more accuracy. He also does the same for the indoor. How about that for an answer????
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Old 10/4/09, 12:20 AM
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Because IAC2 SOP is written by a lab. It is laughable when you think about it.
I wrote the IAC2 SOP.




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Old 10/4/09, 12:25 AM
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Ding Ding Ding!!! Give the man a Cupie Doll.
Ding Ding Dong.
I wrote the IAC2 SOP.




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Old 10/6/09, 12:52 AM
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What makes it so obvious, is that Prolab's Z-5 cassette is mentioned a few times in the IAC2 SOP, when it is common practice for other mold testing SOPs not to discuss any testing media by brand name.
I believe Air-O-Cell and Bio-Tape made by Zefon and EmLab's Micro 5 are also mentioned in the SOP. In fact, I believe I go over how to use ALL of the most common mold sampling devices in the IAC2 online video mold course.

I am not buddies with the owner of Pro-Lab. Although I've eaten in his restaurant and he serves a mean strip steak and mashed potatoes dinner.

Why don't you simply ask the author of the IAC2 SOP an intelligent question instead of creating a soap opera?

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