ABS to Cast Iron: Any plumbers online?

[Emmanuel J. Scanlan]

Originally Posted by jfunderburk

I won't waste my time with your questions DH. (DH can stand for anything you want it to.)

Joe I sincerely apologize for my lack of ability to regress to an elementary grade level to decipher the meaning of "DH". Could you please explain as it might be helpful to other college level educated people viewing this post? Your assistance with that would be greatly appreciated. We might all learn something new?

[Joe Funderburk, CMI]

Since you know it all, DH, I don't expect you to be on the BB asking for help. But if you do, I can't wait to jump in and scald you for being an idiot who doesn't know his job.

[Emmanuel J. Scanlan]

Originally Posted by jfunderburk

Since you know it all, DH, I don't expect you to be on the BB asking for help. But if you do, I can't wait to jump in and scald you for being an idiot who doesn't know his job.

Joe,

Thank you for bestowing such a great designation onto me. I have been told that DH stands for "Designated Home-N-Spector". It seems that this title has been created and is similar to the Designated Hitter in MLB. In the inspection world it seems the DH is called out by a client when the first Home Inspector is unable to perform their job, has a low record of catching and writing up deficiencies, or is generally sub-standard in performance.

That is to bad that I can't work in SC or NC as they are licensed States and I do not hold their license. Are their other DH's located in SC or NC?

[Jim Kathy]

Since cast iron pipe connections are done with a wick and poured seal, there are no mechanical connectors which would transition from CI to ABS. The common method for this transition is to insert the ABS into the CI as pictured, and inject a silicon seal. The seal method is not visible in the photo. The AHJ in my area has approved this method for me, personally. I see it often.

[KEVIN WOOD]

Since this post info is in the plumbing section DHW could stand for Demand Hotwater system also.
But you new this already didn't you Mr. Scanlan.
But it could stand for Domestic Hot Water

[Joe Funderburk, CMI]

Originally Posted by escanlan

Let me see if I understand this correctly.

1. How will your client know that a potential problem exists if you do not report it?

Dirt Worker, I see that you are an ICC certified plumbing inspector. Please cite the code this connection violates and I'll change my report. You've got all the answers...please cite the IRC chapter and section, instead simply running your mouth.

[Emmanuel J. Scanlan]

Originally Posted by jfunderburk

Dirt Worker, I see that you are an ICC certified plumbing inspector. Please cite the code this connection violates and I'll change my report. You've got all the answers...please cite the IRC chapter and section, instead simply running your mouth.

Joe,

You just don't get it do you? My posts have absolutely nothing to do with whether that connection is or is not a problem. With two college degrees I would certainly have thought you could figure that out already! So I will make it blunt and easy for you to understand.

On this post you have stated that you are not sure and don't know if the connection is correct or not. Well no Inspector can know everything about everything and any that feel they do are full of crap!! However what you have done here is state that you did not know and chose to "OMIT" it from the report in the hopes that a plumber would catch it. You also indicate that you don't feel that a plumber will even come out or go down under. This is a publicly viewable BB which means anyone can view that you have openly stated regarding what information you did or did not place in an inspection report in hopes that another licensed trade would discover it "IF" they come out for a follow-on inspection.

You want me to cite the code sections for this issue. Since this has nothing to do with the plumbing issue we will forgo citing any building codes. But since this is about you potentially omitting information from a report let's cite some other important references.

From the South Carolina Code of Laws
http://www.scstatehouse.gov/code/t40c059.htm

SECTION 40-59-580. Denial, suspension, or revocation; civil penalties; hearing; appeal.
(A) The commission may deny, refuse to renew, temporarily suspend, or revoke a license or issue a civil penalty under this section if the licensee or applicant for licensure:
(1) makes a false or misleading statement in that portion of a written report that deals with professional qualification or in any testimony concerning professional qualifications;
(2) engages in an act or omission involving dishonesty, fraud, or misrepresentation with the intent to substantially benefit a home inspector or other person or with the intent to substantially injure another person;
(3) engages in an act of fraud, misrepresentation, or deceit in the making of a home inspection;
(5) fails or refuses without good cause to exercise reasonable diligence in developing a home inspection report, preparing a report, or communicating a report;
(9) commits an act or acts of malpractice, gross negligence, or incompetence in the performance of home inspections;
(11) engages in conduct that could result in harm or injury to the public;
(12) engages in an act or practice violative of any of the provisions of this article or a regulation promulgated by the commission under this article or aids, abets, or assists a person in such violation.

How many of those articles above have been potentially violated?

Since you are licensed in SC and NC this is from the North Carolina Home Inspector Licensure Board
http://www.ncdoi.com/OSFM/Engineerin..._and_rules.asp

§ 143-151.56. Suspension, revocation, and refusal to renew license.
(a) The Board may deny or refuse to issue or renew a license, may suspend or revoke a license, or may impose probationary conditions on a license if the license holder or applicant for licensure has engaged in any of the following conduct:
(2) Committed an act of malpractice, gross negligence, or incompetence in the practice of home inspections.
(4) Engaged in conduct that could result in harm or injury to the public.
(6) Been adjudicated incompetent.
(7) Engaged in any act or practice that violates any of the provisions of this Article or any rule issued by the Board, or aided, abetted, or assisted any person in a violation of any of the provisions of this Article.

The summary page must also describe any system or component that appears not to function as intended, based upon documented tangible evidence, and that requires either subsequent examination or further investigation by a specialist.

(D) State whether the condition reported requires repair or subsequent observation, or warrants further investigation by a specialist. The statements shall describe the component or system and how the condition is defective, explain the consequences of the condition, and direct the recipient to a course of action with regard to the condition or refer the recipient to a specialist;

.1116 CODE OF ETHICS
(a) Licensees shall discharge their duties with fidelity to the public, their clients, and with fairness and impartiality to all.
(i) Licensees shall not engage in false or misleading advertising or otherwise misrepresent any matters to the public.

How many of the above rules have been potentially violated?

From the INACHI COE:

Duty to the Public
The InterNACHI member shall not engage in any practices that could be damaging to the public or bring discredit to the home inspection industry.

The InterNACHI member shall be fair, honest, impartial, and act in good faith in dealing with the public.

The InterNACHI member shall be truthful regarding his/her services and qualifications.

The InterNACHI member shall always act in the interest of the client, unless doing so violates a law, statute or this Code of Ethics.

The InterNACHI member shall comply with all government rules and licensing requirements of the jurisdiction where he/she conducts business.

You are a CMI and this is from the CMI COE:

1. Duty to the Public
The Certified Master Inspector® will not engage in any practices that could be damaging to the public or that could bring discredit to the home inspection industry.

The Certified Master Inspector® shall be fair, honest, impartial, and act in good faith in dealing with the public.

The Certified Master Inspector® shall be truthful regarding his/her services and qualifications.

The Certified Master Inspector® shall always act in the interests of the client, unless doing so violates a rule, statute, or this Code of Ethics.

The Certified Master Inspector® shall comply with all government rules and licensing requirements of the jurisdiction where s/he conducts business.

2. Duty to the Profession and to other Certified Master Inspectors®
The Certified Master Inspector® will not engage in any act or practice that could be deemed damaging, seditious or destructive to fellow Certified Master Inspectors®.

How many of the INACHI and CMI items above have been potentially violated?

To recap for you it has absolutely nothing to do with whether you knew or not if that condition was improper or not. It has everything to do with how you handled it! There is nothing wrong with admitting to a client that you just don't know and you will find out, or pointing it out and advising to have it checked further. What is simply incredulous is to post on a public BB that you chose to potentially omit the issue because you did not know!

But gee whiz what do I know about honesty and integrity anyhow? After all I'm just " Pretty mouthy for a "truck driver," "dirt worker" and "weapon carrier"." anyhow right?

[Joe Funderburk, CMI]

DH, I asked a simple question. You attacked my capabilities and professionalism in a public forum. The fact is nobody has convinced me that this is an improper connection. I saw no need, after posting the question and pic to include the issue in my report. If it IS an issue, the plumber can address it when he's 2 feet away fixing the pvc to abs connection that I did call out. I have the right to do my job as I see fit. Sorry you don't agree. You run your business, I'll run mine. I'm moving on. You're on my ignore list.