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Old 1/30/10, 12:01 AM
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Another question is were the line passes through the wall, should it be sleeved or insulated
It SHOULDN'T pass through a wall or floor.



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No one mentioned lack of a drip leg in the first one.
No shutoff either.
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Why is the flex coming off a regulator in the second one?
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No one mentioned lack of a drip leg in the first one.
No shutoff either.
Bob, I mentioned somewhere that the shutoff was beneath the fireplace, in the family room, where it ought to be.

Regarding drip legs, the gas companies around here do not require it on residential.



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Bob, I mentioned somewhere that the shutoff was beneath the fireplace, in the family room, where it ought to be.

Regarding drip legs, the gas companies around here do not require it on residential.
Yeah saw the shutoff comment after ,but is there a individual shutoff for that branch before the flex?

I think that is required .

That is not csst and the flex may need to be changed.
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Manufacturers instructions should always supercede local codes.

IRC - G2422.1.2 (411.1.2) Appliance fuel connectors......shall not be concealed within, or extended through, walls, floors, partitions, ceilings or household appliances........
Exception: fireplace inserts factory equipped with grommets, sleeves or other means of protection in accordance with the listing of the appliance.



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Yeah saw the shutoff comment after ,but is there a individual shutoff for that branch before the flex?

I think that is required .

That is not csst and the flex may need to be changed.
CSST would be the proper fix IMO. There was no shutoff prior to the connector and I'm not aware of the need for one. The code that sticks in my mind requires a shut-off in the same room and within 6 feet of the appliance.



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so a black iron pipe through the floor, and then a gas connector would make it ok? sounds like your statement doesnt allow any connections...
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so a black iron pipe through the floor, and then a gas connector would make it ok? sounds like your statement doesnt allow any connections...
The usual method is copper tubing or CSST run through the floor.



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(a) All pipe used for the installation, extension,
alteration, and/or repair of any gas piping shall be
standard weight wrought iron or steel, yellow brass
(containing not more than 75% copper), or internally
tinned or equivalently treated copper of iron pipe size.

from the uniform plumbing code... not sure if copper tubing is sufficient material
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Copper pipe, or tubing is NEVER ALLOWED BY CODE IN THE US FOR NATURAL GAS DISTRIBUTION! There are various reasons for this which I'm not going to even bother getting into because they are irrelevant. Bottom line is copper is NEVER ALLOWED BY CODE IN THE US FOR NATURAL GAS DISTRIBUTION!
It is very common to see copper tubing used in rural areas for propane gas distribution. This is allowed. Propane and natural gas are two different gasses.

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Copper pipe, or tubing is NEVER ALLOWED BY CODE IN THE US FOR NATURAL GAS DISTRIBUTION! There are various reasons for this which I'm not going to even bother getting into because they are irrelevant. Bottom line is copper is NEVER ALLOWED BY CODE IN THE US FOR NATURAL GAS DISTRIBUTION!
It is very common to see copper tubing used in rural areas for propane gas distribution. This is allowed. Propane and natural gas are two different gasses.

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Actually the chemical additive that corrodes copper is not used anymore.(been debated here many times).
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what exactly do you define as a "connector" any flex hose?
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