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Anyone know of any issues with these Bottle style traps? Are they approved as a replacement to a standard P-Trap?
http://www.amazon.com/Decolav-Decora.../dp/B000LSJ1MO Kevin Kevin A. Richardson, BA Level III Certified Infrared Thermographer, #7493 BPI Certified Building Performance Analyst Maryland Licensed Home Inspector, #29727 INACHI Certified Home Inspector, #04091175 301-942-4610 www.richnspect.com (Residential Inspections) www.infrared-diagnostics.com (Commercial Infrared Services) www.thehomegreenteam.com (Home Energy Performance Audits) |
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They have been discussed here several times.
Your AHJ would have to approve their use. More Here Please note that bottle traps (all brands) may not be per code (meaning they may not be legal) in your area. It would be best to check with your local plumbing code before purchasing and installing them. Bottle traps are used in many countries as the "standard" trap but not in the U.S. "Never underestimate the difficulty of changing false beliefs by facts." Last edited by mlarson; 8/27/08 at 5:46 PM.. |
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Hi Kevin,
I believe that that trap is not really a bottle trap in the real sense of the word, rather it is an enclosed P trap which would be allowed in most if not all jurisdictions. Regards Gerry Virtue is more to be feared than vice, because its excesses are not subject to the regulation of conscience. Adam Smith (1723-1790) Commercial property Inspection Tampa, Orlando, Sarasota, Jacksonville, Ft Launderdale, Miami, Florida. NACHI cell 484-429-5466 NACHI02121106
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Here is a drawing. The partition can corrode and loose the trap seal. http://www.freepatentsonline.com/7155760-0-large.jpg Do you have any links to what you are calling an enclosed P-trap? "Never underestimate the difficulty of changing false beliefs by facts." |
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1004.0 Traps – Prohibited. No form of trap which depends for its seal upon the action of movable parts shall be used. No trap which has concealed interior partitions, except those of plastic, glass-or similar corrosion- resisting material, shall be used. "S" traps, bell traps, and crown-vented traps shall be prohibited. No fixture shall be double trapped. Drum and bottle traps may be installed only when permitted by the Authority Having Jurisdiction for special conditions. No trap shall be installed without a vent, except as otherwise provided in this Code. |
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Here is the pic of the trap that was installed below a Hall Bath sink in a Condo I inspected this morning. This basement condo unit also had two bedrooms without any means of secondary egress. Kevin Kevin A. Richardson, BA Level III Certified Infrared Thermographer, #7493 BPI Certified Building Performance Analyst Maryland Licensed Home Inspector, #29727 INACHI Certified Home Inspector, #04091175 301-942-4610 www.richnspect.com (Residential Inspections) www.infrared-diagnostics.com (Commercial Infrared Services) www.thehomegreenteam.com (Home Energy Performance Audits) |
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Not approved around here except in laboratory use (Don't know why even there). They can be made of ceramic too, ran into a couple of those for chemical sinks.
In the world view we are all important and our mere existence effects all life. Jack Gilleland Home Inspection Services Clayton Commercial, Multifamily, and Residential jgilleland1@att.net Ohio_Commercial and_Home_Inspections activerain |
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relliott is a non-member guest and is in no way affiliated with InterNACHI or its members.
I have never seen then (or at least noticed them) in a hardware store , but imagine they cost more.
If I was putting one in despite code, it would be for looks , which really do not matter under an enclosed cabinet. |
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Regards Gerry Virtue is more to be feared than vice, because its excesses are not subject to the regulation of conscience. Adam Smith (1723-1790) Commercial property Inspection Tampa, Orlando, Sarasota, Jacksonville, Ft Launderdale, Miami, Florida. NACHI cell 484-429-5466 NACHI02121106
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Hey if you ever tried to unstop one you'd know why they are not legal. Bottle or drum traps are a plumbers night mare.
In the world view we are all important and our mere existence effects all life. Jack Gilleland Home Inspection Services Clayton Commercial, Multifamily, and Residential jgilleland1@att.net Ohio_Commercial and_Home_Inspections activerain |
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relliott is a non-member guest and is in no way affiliated with InterNACHI or its members.
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Just unscrew and replace. Getting back your ring is another story. |
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Rehabed a 1920 vintage 2 story double with 1/2 basement 1/2 6" crawl. Bath and kit. sink went below floor (which we ended up pulling up) to replace traps. really was a nightmare.
Didn't find any Rings. In the world view we are all important and our mere existence effects all life. Jack Gilleland Home Inspection Services Clayton Commercial, Multifamily, and Residential jgilleland1@att.net Ohio_Commercial and_Home_Inspections activerain |
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