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It's great that people are calling it out. But do you know why your calling it out, or is it just because the code book says to.

Just wonderin'
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We're supposed to use air gaps but nobody does it.
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It's great that people are calling it out. But do you know why your calling it out, or is it just because the code book says to.

Just wonderin'
What, exactly, are you referring to?



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The disposal connection.
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Sorry Brian. I thought yours was post #1 in this thread. I missed the whole first page.

It's been a long day. . .



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Sorry Brian. I thought yours was post #1 in this thread. I missed the whole first page.

It's been a long day. . .
ha, haven't done that in awhile.
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No doubt. I find it all the time as well.

But the fact is that both the Chicago and the Illinois plumbing code prohibits it.

I call it out. Easy to fix.

I also call out plastic flex drain pipes. They are also not allowed.
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What issues are there with using the plastic flex piping?



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What issues are there with using the plastic flex piping?
Not allowed in state code.

Sure, I know its a code issue, but knowing the code is important, isn't it. If not, why do we study the NEC and get IRC certified and all.

If people are buying a house that has code violations, they are buying that liability.

In Illinois, state law requires that we call things out based upon "current construction standards", which means national and state codes.

My second question, on this thread, is does anyone know why the code says this. There usually is a reason.

Besides, it's a good indicator is the work was done professionally or not.



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It traps grease and debris Will.
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Here is the wordage.
TITLE 77: PUBLIC HEALTH
CHAPTER I: DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC HEALTH
SUBCHAPTER r: WATER AND SEWAGE
PART 890 ILLINOIS PLUMBING CODE
SECTION 890.410 FIXTURE TRAPS/CONTINUOUS WASTE
Section 890.410 Fixture Traps/Continuous Waste
Type of Traps. Traps shall have a uniform and smooth interior, and shall have no partitions or movable parts. The trap seal shall be non-adjustable. (See Appendix D: Illustration C.)
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My second question, on this thread, is does anyone know why the code says this.
Knowing that is probably more important than knowing the actual code.

??Maybe too many people forgot to remove the plug before connecting the DW drain??? But not me, nope never did that!

Local Code takes precedence over manufacturers instructions, yes?

And best practices trumps all for HIs!
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Rich in regard to the dishwashers , that would be for the reason I gave earlier in that there is a possibility of cross contamination in that the disposal contains bacteria.
If the diswasher hose is not a reverse trap the water can go back into the dishes.
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Rich in regard to the dishwashers , that would be for the reason I gave earlier in that there is a possibility of cross contamination in that the disposal contains bacteria.
If the diswasher hose is not a reverse trap the water can go back into the dishes.
Could happen with conection to drain too.
Air-gap or high loop solves that.

I just looked at mine 10yr old home - DW drain to waste drain above trap.
If that clogs, the waste water is going into the dishwasher (if there's no air gap/high loop)
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yep you are right
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yep you are right
Can you let my wife know?
According to her I haven't been right for 10 years.
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