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Old 12/12/11, 3:28 AM
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Dishwasher drain hose is connected to drain pipe rather than
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Default Re: Dishwasher plumbing....need advise

It can be connected to that drain pipe but it still needs either an air gap or high loop prior to the connection.




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Old 12/12/11, 4:16 AM
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Yes, in fact some jurisdictions do not allow connection directly to the disposal.
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No visible air gap device. In California there must be an air gap device, a high loop is not acceptable
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Old 12/12/11, 8:13 AM
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Default Re: Dishwasher plumbing....need advise

the fitting shown is actually called a dishwasher tail piece...it is perfectly fine, but as others have said that drain line needs to be fastened as high as possible in the cabinet.



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Old 12/12/11, 9:56 AM
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The more expensive dishwashers have the high loop built in and no air gap is needed in many areas.

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What the others said David however is there any way you can upload better res pictures in the future as I notice yours are all very small.

Do you use your phone camera?
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Old 12/12/11, 11:41 AM
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No visible air gap device. In California there must be an air gap device, a high loop is not acceptable
Yep. Chuck is correct.

Connection to the drain line is allowed, but it must first go through an airgap, mounted above the flood-level of the sink.



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The more expensive dishwashers have the high loop built in and no air gap is needed in many areas.

Be careful when reporting something as wrong unless you know for sure.
Very true Bruce, event the not so expensive models. What I've noticed this year is most new models have a "built-in" high loop.

Regarding connecting at GD, that's prohibited in Illinois.



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Very true Bruce, event the not so expensive models. What I've noticed this year is most new models have a "built-in" high loop.

Regarding connecting at GD, that's prohibited in Illinois.
So with that being said, how do you determine which units "have it"? Or don't you? What, if anything, goes in your report if you suspect the unit has a high loop built-in?
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So with that being said, how do you determine which units "have it"? Or don't you? What, if anything, goes in your report if you suspect the unit has a high loop built-in?
In CA, it doesn't matter whether or not it has a high-loop - built in or not. It must have an air gap fitting installed above the flood level of the sink.



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Old 12/12/11, 6:25 PM
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In CA, it doesn't matter whether or not it has a high-loop - built in or not. It must have an air gap fitting installed above the flood level of the sink.
Understood.

My question was aimed more at Chris or Bruce regarding how they report what they cannot visually verify.
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Old 12/12/11, 7:35 PM
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So with that being said, how do you determine which units "have it"? Or don't you? What, if anything, goes in your report if you suspect the unit has a high loop built-in?
If no air gap (high loop) is visible I report as such. Note: Some models have a built-in "high-loop"; recommend to verify with owners manual.



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Old 12/12/11, 9:18 PM
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If no air gap (high loop) is visible I report as such. Note: Some models have a built-in "high-loop"; recommend to verify with owners manual.
As I suspected. Thank you.
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