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How does an inspector spot ungrounded CSST lines?
Nick Gromicko, Certified Master Inspector Find a Home Inspector "Just as iron sharpens iron, one man sharpens another." Proverbs 27:17 |
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The proper bonding and grounding of CSST can be difficult to confirm for a Home Inspector. Depending on the LDZ designation of the city/town, the requirements will differ.
It's best just to defer to manufacturers requirements, and make home owners/buyers aware that there may be required uprgrades for the bonding and grounding systems where CSST is concerned. [you're not gonna try to sell me something now, are you? IF YOUR INSPECTOR IS NOT USING THERMAL IMAGING, YOU'RE NOT GETTING THE WHOLE PICTURE ® Jeff PopeJPI Home Inspection Service Santa Clarita CA (661) 212-0738 Santa Clarita Home Inspection http://www.MyInspector.net Last edited by jpope; 9/11/08 at 3:35 PM.. |
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We're going to be doing a NACHI.TV episode on it as most inspectors know nothing of it.
Nick Gromicko, Certified Master Inspector Find a Home Inspector "Just as iron sharpens iron, one man sharpens another." Proverbs 27:17 |
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Could someone refresh my memory? CSST?
Mark Nahrgang www.DaytonSpringfieldHomeInspector.com www.HeyMark.info Home Inspections for Springfield, Dayton, and surrounding OH areas. |
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Corrugated Stainless Steel Tubing used for gas line.
It's very common in my area in the last few years. He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors - Thomas Jefferson - Founding Father |
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Excellence in Inspections Mike Boyett, TREC #7290 mikeb@capcityinspections.com Capital City Inspections Austin, Texas (512) 577-2579 Company blog is: www.capcityinspections.com/blog |
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That's right... I remember now. Thanks Mike.
Mark Nahrgang www.DaytonSpringfieldHomeInspector.com www.HeyMark.info Home Inspections for Springfield, Dayton, and surrounding OH areas. |
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Shouldn't fault the manufacturers on this one. Great product. Pretty tough to expect them to have forseen the problem with it being too thin to carry a lightning strike.
Nick Gromicko, Certified Master Inspector Find a Home Inspector "Just as iron sharpens iron, one man sharpens another." Proverbs 27:17 |
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Please Note:
Tim Scarfe is a non-member guest and is in no way affiliated with InterNACHI or its members.
You should all know csst has gone through a redesgn Trac pipe is now making counter strike to withstand lightning strikes no bonding required.
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Rarely used due to the cost. Most install the traditional yellow piping, which requires a bond.
“The things that will destroy America are peace at any price, prosperity at any cost, safety first instead of duty first, the love of soft living, and the get-rich-quick theory of life.” Theodore Roosevelt Joe Funderburk, CMI Alpha & Omega Home Inspections, LLC Inspecting Upstate SC & Charlotte Metro, NC NACHI ID: NACHI05120170 www.aohomeinspection.com |
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It's actually pretty easy to determine whether or not the system is bonded. The bond has to be to solid steel piping, and connected to either to the main ground rod or to the main ground bus. If I don't see a GEC run from near the meter to either of those locations, I assume the system is not bonded and say so in my reports.
“The things that will destroy America are peace at any price, prosperity at any cost, safety first instead of duty first, the love of soft living, and the get-rich-quick theory of life.” Theodore Roosevelt Joe Funderburk, CMI Alpha & Omega Home Inspections, LLC Inspecting Upstate SC & Charlotte Metro, NC NACHI ID: NACHI05120170 www.aohomeinspection.com |
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Bonding is required in most areas for all gas piping. Additional bonding is not required for counterstrike. Some elecricians are adding the additional bond anyway during construction. They are smart to do this. The counterstrike is not new, its been around for at least 5 years. B.A. King Home Inspections, LLC www.BAKingHomeInspections.com Serving Charlotte NC area and Rock Hill SC areas. CMI Certified Master Inspector and Independent 704 301-3207 "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought." - Albert Szent-Gyvrgyi, Nobel Prize for Medicine 1937 |
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Nick, you need to make sure the video uses the correct terminology. Don't use "ungrounded" use "not bonded" or "no additional bonding". Also, every one of these CSST threads has someone that does not know the difference between additional bonding and regular bonding. All gas pipes must be bonded and already are through the gas furnace cabinet to the 15 amp branch circuit equipment ground. The gas pipe bonds itself through the furnace's valve which is connected to the cabinet. This is the weak bond that was found to be ineffective so they started requiring an "additional bond". The newer code about "additional bonding" is the one we can easily inspect since it is a large wire and clamp to the main gas pipe to the meter, main panel or GEC. B.A. King Home Inspections, LLC www.BAKingHomeInspections.com Serving Charlotte NC area and Rock Hill SC areas. CMI Certified Master Inspector and Independent 704 301-3207 "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought." - Albert Szent-Gyvrgyi, Nobel Prize for Medicine 1937 |
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CSST gets used most often as a short run in my area. The black iron will stop below or near the fireplace and the then the CSST will continue up. If there is no bond on the visible run, it's not bonded in my report or it needs confirmed. I've seen one house in eight years with a proper bond on CSST, but it only appears a few times a year.
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