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Inspected a Home and the dishwasher looked like a brand new recent install.
I ran the dishwasher through one complete washing and all seemed ok. Are Air Gaps required ? David |
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Here is my report comment. Airgaps are now standard equipment to assure a separation between supply and waste water. It is advised that either an airgap or a high loop be installed between the dishwasher and the waste connection Some models have it built in but that will not be determined by you . |
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Not usually.Note that P2717.1 is speaking about the water supply to the dishwasher. The following codes are speaking about the waste discharge from the dishwasher.
-------------------------------------- 2006/2009 IRC P2717.1 Protection of water supply. The water supply for dishwashers shall be protected by an air gap or integral backflow preventer. Commentary: Residential or domestic dishwashers must conform to ASSE 1006. This standard includes protection of the potable water supply against backflow. Units conforming to this standard possess backflow protection consisting of an internal, integral backflow prevention device. Where a unit does not meet this standard, protection must be provided by means of an air gap. Section P2902.3.1 mandates an air gap. P2717.2 Sink and dishwasher.A sink and dishwasher are permitted to discharge through a single 11/2-inch (38 mm) trap. The discharge pipe from the dishwasher shall be increased to a minimum of 3/4 inch (19 mm) in diameter and shall be connected with a wye fitting to the sink tailpiece. The dishwasher waste line shall rise and be securely fastened to the underside of the counter before connecting to the sink tailpiece. Commentary: Dishwashing machines may connect directly to the drainage system and do not require an indirect connection by drainage air gap or air break. The direct connection is acceptable, because the potable water supply is adequately protected against backflow. This section requires that the waste line be looped as high as possible and be securely fastened to the underside of the sink rim or countertop to minimize the potential of waste backflow into the dishwasher unit (see Commentary Figure P2717.2). P2717.3 Sink, dishwasher and food grinder. The combined discharge from a sink, dishwasher, and waste grinder is permitted to discharge through a single 11/2 inch (38 mm) trap. The discharge pipe from the dishwasher shall be increased to a minimum of 3/4 inch (19 mm) in diameter and shall connect with a wye fitting between the discharge of the food-waste grinder and the trap inlet or to the head of the food grinder. The dishwasher waste line shall rise and be securely fastened to the underside of the counter before connecting to the sink tail piece or the food grinder. Commentary: This section permits a single 11/2-inch (38 mm) trap to receive the discharge from a sink, dishwasher and food waste grinder. The discharge piping from the dishwasher must be a minimum size of 3/4 inch (19.1 mm) and connect to a branch tailpiece of a kitchen sink or directly to the food waste grinder. For the same reason discussed in the previous section, the dishwasher waste must rise and be securely fastened to the underside of the counter before connecting to the branch tailpiece or food waste grinder (see Commentary Figure P2717.2). “The things that will destroy America are peace at any price, prosperity at any cost, safety first instead of duty first, the love of soft living, and the get-rich-quick theory of life.” Theodore Roosevelt Joe Funderburk, CMI Alpha & Omega Home Inspections, LLC Inspecting Upstate SC & Charlotte Metro, NC NACHI ID: NACHI05120170 www.aohomeinspection.com Last edited by jfunderburk; 3/21/11 at 3:28 PM.. |
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Air Gap on Discharge is Required.
Sometimes built in to the Appliance Joseph P. Hagarty joseph.hagarty@comcast.net Main Line Inspections, Inc. Phone: 610-399-3675 Email: MainLineHI@comcast.net http://pa.nachi.org/mainlinepa/about.html http://www.householdinspector.com National President / NACHI (2003-2004) NACHI Education Committee Member |
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You guys need to re-evaluate what you're interpretation of the code.
“The things that will destroy America are peace at any price, prosperity at any cost, safety first instead of duty first, the love of soft living, and the get-rich-quick theory of life.” Theodore Roosevelt Joe Funderburk, CMI Alpha & Omega Home Inspections, LLC Inspecting Upstate SC & Charlotte Metro, NC NACHI ID: NACHI05120170 www.aohomeinspection.com |
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3 ways to do a dishwasher drain line correctly:
1. Air gap 2. Run in from bottom of cabinet and looped above discharge point and secured and back down. 3. Run in from top side of cabinet above discharge point and back down. Some cities require air gap only. Some cities want to see the loop and some are okay with either 3. Crazy!! Fort Worth Home Inspector Dallas Home Inspector |
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I very rarely see them. I think it will depend on where you live.
Michael J. Parker The Neighborhood Home Inspector, LLC Home inspections in Clinton, Essex and Franklin Counties in NY State http://www.PlattsburghHomeInspector.com www.TheNeighborhoodHomeInspector.com |
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For Delaware (State, New Castle County) Inspections, I find Air Gaps (Physical presence) is required
In Pennsylvania, drain loop or internal to Dishwasher is Acceptable. Joseph P. Hagarty joseph.hagarty@comcast.net Main Line Inspections, Inc. Phone: 610-399-3675 Email: MainLineHI@comcast.net http://pa.nachi.org/mainlinepa/about.html http://www.householdinspector.com National President / NACHI (2003-2004) NACHI Education Committee Member |
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Yes, a gap or a loop.
Robert Newland Tyrone, GA 30290 NACHI05101290 http://www.CertifiedHI.com http://www.HomeInspectorTyroneGa.com Home Inspection Reports Powered by: HomeGauge eServices |
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"New Castle County has recently adopted the ICC 2006 International Codes." “The things that will destroy America are peace at any price, prosperity at any cost, safety first instead of duty first, the love of soft living, and the get-rich-quick theory of life.” Theodore Roosevelt Joe Funderburk, CMI Alpha & Omega Home Inspections, LLC Inspecting Upstate SC & Charlotte Metro, NC NACHI ID: NACHI05120170 www.aohomeinspection.com |
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Whether code or not does not really matter. The reason for the drain loop or anti siphon is to keep grey water from the sink backing up into the dishwasher. I have seen many a floor flooded from a large amount of water being dumped down a drain ending up in the dishwasher and if ajar, flooding the floor or, if closed, flooding the floor when opened.
If I see no drain loop in a dishwasher exhaust line during a home inspection, I call it out and explain why. Jeff T Licensed Home Inspector, HI-88 www.beachsideinspection.com www.cocoabeachhomeinspectors.com Serving all of Brevard County Florida including Cape Canaveral, Merritt Island, Cocoa Beach, Satellite Beach, Indialantic, Indian Harbour Beach, Melborne Beach, Mebourne, Viera, Palm Bay |
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No Worries,,, Delaware is the Only Place that I See Physical Air Gap Provisions at the Sink Never in PA So Builders install in DE when NOT Required Who ever would have Thunk? Joseph P. Hagarty joseph.hagarty@comcast.net Main Line Inspections, Inc. Phone: 610-399-3675 Email: MainLineHI@comcast.net http://pa.nachi.org/mainlinepa/about.html http://www.householdinspector.com National President / NACHI (2003-2004) NACHI Education Committee Member |
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$12 a home.....
lots of profit lost.... Joseph P. Hagarty joseph.hagarty@comcast.net Main Line Inspections, Inc. Phone: 610-399-3675 Email: MainLineHI@comcast.net http://pa.nachi.org/mainlinepa/about.html http://www.householdinspector.com National President / NACHI (2003-2004) NACHI Education Committee Member |
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They've probably gotten accustomed to listening to the ignorant code inspector and never challenge it. Read the code above and you tell me whether or not it's required.
“The things that will destroy America are peace at any price, prosperity at any cost, safety first instead of duty first, the love of soft living, and the get-rich-quick theory of life.” Theodore Roosevelt Joe Funderburk, CMI Alpha & Omega Home Inspections, LLC Inspecting Upstate SC & Charlotte Metro, NC NACHI ID: NACHI05120170 www.aohomeinspection.com |
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not so Many Inspections in New Castle DE but I do quite a few... Generally Inspect Same as PA Delaware is the only area where I Consistently Find Air Gaps installed for Dishwashers.... Never in PA.... Joseph P. Hagarty joseph.hagarty@comcast.net Main Line Inspections, Inc. Phone: 610-399-3675 Email: MainLineHI@comcast.net http://pa.nachi.org/mainlinepa/about.html http://www.householdinspector.com National President / NACHI (2003-2004) NACHI Education Committee Member |
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