Gas water heater help

[Sean Fogarty]

Gas water heaters that do not need to be on a stand....
Do they now make any?
Had 2 brand new ones sitting on the garage floor.
Feedback please


Thanks for the confusion Wayne.

[Bob Elliott]

Originally Posted by sfogarty

Gas water heaters that do not need to be on a stand....
Do they now make any?
Had 2 brand new ones sitting on the garage floor.
Feedback please


Thanks for the confusion Wayne.

Must be 18 inches off the floor Sean.
I will double check my info if not answered again.

[Greg W. Mathias, CCHI]

If the burner is sealed then it can be used without a stand. Generally if they wer made after 2008 they are explosion proof.

[Bob Elliott]

Water heaters should be elevated above the floor by at least 18 inches. A pilot light may ignite spilled fluid or floor-level flammable fumes if the water heater is placed at floor level.

[Bill Smith]

In 2003 they started making FVIR (Flame Vapor Ignition Resistant) water heaters that do not need 18" elevation in garages. They have an enclosed front with a small viewing window.

[Sean Fogarty]

Our county code handouts say it must be. Had 2 brand new today on the floor. Both were fvir's.. They would not have been able to install the draft pipes if they were on stands.

[Marcel R. Cyr]

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[bdoles2]

Originally Posted by belliott

Water heaters should be elevated above the floor by at least 18 inches. A pilot light may ignite spilled fluid or floor-level flammable fumes if the water heater is placed at floor level.

Take this training on water heaters and FVIR's to tone up on newer water heater technology. Water heater training

[Greg W. Mathias, CCHI]

In 2008 FVIR's were mandated in Canada.

[Marcel R. Cyr]

So now that we all know that they exist, will they be recognized when we see one, is the next question.

[Bob Elliott]

OK missed the new part ,but good thread to discuss.

[Greg W. Mathias, CCHI]

I see them all the time. I am not a fan as they are impossable to inspect.

[Jeffrey R. Pope]

Originally Posted by sfogarty

Gas water heaters that do not need to be on a stand....
Do they now make any?
Had 2 brand new ones sitting on the garage floor.
Feedback please

It depends on your local code (I know, I know, TN ain't got no codes).

There are some jurisdictions that leave it up to the manufacturer. Their code will usually state something to the effect of "Ignition sources capable of igniting flammable vapors must be elevated off of the garage floor..." In which case, the FVIR water heater can be placed at floor level.

Other codes will say something like "The heating element or burner chamber of appliances located in a garage must be elevated to a minimum height of 18 inches off the garage floor..." In which case, all appliances must be elevated.

Most current codes allow for the FVIR water heater to be placed at floor level.

[Wayne B. Wilson]

Sean has stated here in Knox county has to off the floor. I write them up also, Knew some areas do not require it . no one here has complained yet

[Sean Fogarty]

http://www.knoxcounty.org/codes/pdfs...quirements.pdf

According to our 2006 current county code requriements they must be 18 inches off the floor. It does not specify SO I guess county codes trumps.

I see fvir's all the time.

What I have never seen in newer construction is them sitting of the floor.