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Old 11/8/11, 8:41 AM
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The only reason I didn't mention that, is those valves are crap as far as I'm concerned, and didn't want him to risk it breaking in the open position. Safety first!
I know. I should have said assuming it moves easily.

They break far to easily and some have plastic valve stems.



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Old 11/8/11, 8:45 AM
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I know. I should have said assuming it moves easily.

They break far to easily and some have plastic valve stems.
Which is another reason why there is no way this was a NG supply. You would have smelled it long before you saw the valve.
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Old 11/8/11, 9:53 AM
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That is true Russel but you don't know who did the work. You cannot second guess this one. I would go on the safe side and get it checked by GAS authority since gas has been supplied by copper lines with no more than yellow tape wrapped around every 4 feet.
Since you're in Canada, I'm presuming that you have copper gas pipes wrapped by yellow tape. We don't down here.
Of course, since there's nothing connected to the line, a simple turn of the valve would easily tell me whether it was gas or water.
Since it's not leaking, a plumber would be the one to call down here because they are in charge of installing/maintaining both water and gas lines. If it was leaking, and depending on what it was leaking, either the gas company or a plumber would need to be called.



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Everything about that valve says it's for water. If it's for gas, it's wrong.



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Old 11/8/11, 10:10 AM
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We have allot of issues with gas lines being installed by plumbers once the gas company has run the Meter and main. If there is no gas tag I call it out right away if it does not look like it has been installed by a certified gasfitter.



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Old 11/8/11, 11:02 AM
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It is water. A copper gas line is a different diameter then a water line is, so the water valve compression fitting will not seal on a gas line.



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Old 11/8/11, 11:04 AM
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It is water. A copper gas line is a different diameter then a water line is, so the water valve compression fitting will not seal on a gas line.
Good point.



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Old 11/8/11, 11:46 AM
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It is also a different kind of copper line. It is type G, K or L and must meet the standards of ASTM. Like I said you cannot assume anything because you make A a s s out of u and me.



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Old 11/8/11, 11:48 AM
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It is also a different kind of copper line. It is type G, K or L and must meet the standards of ASTM. Like I said you cannot assume anything because you make A a s s out of u and me.
Of course you are assuming it was done with the right copper in the first place



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Old 11/8/11, 11:54 AM
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It's water. Gas valves are threaded and have 1/4 turn shut offs. Tape is because home owner dosn't know his fitting types.



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It's water. Gas valves are threaded and have 1/4 turn shut offs. Tape is because home owner dosn't know his fitting types.
Key word here is Owner!



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This valve turned out to be a water valve. I returned to inspect after the bank winterized the house by turning on gas and repairing water service piping. I took the chance of briefly turning on the water service to the house and water came out of this valve, which was open. Go figure...
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