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“The things that will destroy America are peace at any price, prosperity at any cost, safety first instead of duty first, the love of soft living, and the get-rich-quick theory of life.” Theodore Roosevelt Joe Funderburk, CMI Alpha & Omega Home Inspections, LLC Inspecting Upstate SC & Charlotte Metro, NC NACHI ID: NACHI05120170 www.aohomeinspection.com |
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No cement, No clean out
INSPECTIONLOGOS.COM "I can keep explaining it for you, but I can't understand it for you". Nick G. Monroe Home Inspection |
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There is cement. This particular photo is not a clean-out issue. You are very close, however.
“The things that will destroy America are peace at any price, prosperity at any cost, safety first instead of duty first, the love of soft living, and the get-rich-quick theory of life.” Theodore Roosevelt Joe Funderburk, CMI Alpha & Omega Home Inspections, LLC Inspecting Upstate SC & Charlotte Metro, NC NACHI ID: NACHI05120170 www.aohomeinspection.com |
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I hope the guy drops a wedding ring down the sink. Should have fun tearing it all out and starting over.
Stephen Stanczyk Washington State Licensed Home Inspector # 221 President, Washington Association of Property Inspectors (WAPI) (253) 241-0602 calls answered until 10pm Pierce County -Thurston County - King County - Snohomish County |
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#5
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2009 IRC P3003.14.2 Solvent cementing. Joint surfaces shall be clean
and free from moisture. A purple primer that conforms to ASTM F 656 shall be applied. Solvent cement not purple in color and conforming to ASTM D 2564, CSA B137.3 or CSA B181.2 shall be applied to all joint surfaces. The joint shall be made while the cement is wet, and shall be in accordance with ASTMD2855. Solvent-cement joints shall be permitted above or below ground. Code Commentary: PVC plastic pipe requires a primer prior to solvent cementing. Although ASTM F 656 only recommends that PVC primer be purple, this is a code requirement. The purple coloring is intended to allow the installer and the inspector to verify that the required primer has been applied. To distinguish the difference between primer and solvent cement, the solvent cement must be a color other than purple. Solvent cement for PVC is typically clear. First, primer is applied to both the fitting socket and the pipe. The PVC solvent cement is then applied to the pipe and socket fitting. The joint is made with a slight twisting until the pipe reaches the full depth of the socket fitting. It is then held in place until the solvent cement begins to set. The installer in these figures is wearing impervious gloves to prevent solvent cement from coming into contact with the skin. The solvent-cementing procedure must be done in accordance with the referenced standard. “The things that will destroy America are peace at any price, prosperity at any cost, safety first instead of duty first, the love of soft living, and the get-rich-quick theory of life.” Theodore Roosevelt Joe Funderburk, CMI Alpha & Omega Home Inspections, LLC Inspecting Upstate SC & Charlotte Metro, NC NACHI ID: NACHI05120170 www.aohomeinspection.com |
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Thats why I didn't think there was cement, to clean but I guess they just didn't use primer.
INSPECTIONLOGOS.COM "I can keep explaining it for you, but I can't understand it for you". Nick G. Monroe Home Inspection |
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The entire house was like that. I see it a lot.
“The things that will destroy America are peace at any price, prosperity at any cost, safety first instead of duty first, the love of soft living, and the get-rich-quick theory of life.” Theodore Roosevelt Joe Funderburk, CMI Alpha & Omega Home Inspections, LLC Inspecting Upstate SC & Charlotte Metro, NC NACHI ID: NACHI05120170 www.aohomeinspection.com |
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They used Oatey clear primer. Good for PVC and CPVC so there is no need to carry more than one type. Look at the lettering on the pipe. It is smeared like someone used a primer.
http://oatey.com/Plumber/Shared/Prod...ar+Primer.html Stephen Stanczyk Washington State Licensed Home Inspector # 221 President, Washington Association of Property Inspectors (WAPI) (253) 241-0602 calls answered until 10pm Pierce County -Thurston County - King County - Snohomish County |
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Stephen, please re-read the code.
“The things that will destroy America are peace at any price, prosperity at any cost, safety first instead of duty first, the love of soft living, and the get-rich-quick theory of life.” Theodore Roosevelt Joe Funderburk, CMI Alpha & Omega Home Inspections, LLC Inspecting Upstate SC & Charlotte Metro, NC NACHI ID: NACHI05120170 www.aohomeinspection.com |
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(19) Amend sections P2905.9.13 of the International Residential Code 2009 by replacing said
section with the following language: Section P2905.9.1.3 PVC Plastic pipe. A primer that conforms to ASTM F 656 shall be applied to PVC solvent cemented joints. Solvent cement for PVC plastic pipe conforming to ASTM D 2564 shall be applied to all joint surfaces. (20) Amend sections P3003.9.2, and P3003.14.2 of the International Residential Code 2009 by replacing said sections with the following language: Solvent cementing. Joint surfaces shall be clean and free from moisture. A primer that conforms to ASTM F 656 shall be applied. Solvent cement not purple in color and conforming to ASTM D 2564 or CSA CAN/CSA-B137.3, CSA CAN/CSA-B181.2 or CSA CAN/CSA-B182 shall be applied to all joint surfaces. The joint shall be made while the cement is wet and shall be in accordance with ASTM 2855. Solvent-cement joints shall be permitted above or below ground. INSPECTIONLOGOS.COM "I can keep explaining it for you, but I can't understand it for you". Nick G. Monroe Home Inspection |
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Not sure what you are getting at Robert. The primer is supposed to be purple and the cement is supposed to be not-purple.
“The things that will destroy America are peace at any price, prosperity at any cost, safety first instead of duty first, the love of soft living, and the get-rich-quick theory of life.” Theodore Roosevelt Joe Funderburk, CMI Alpha & Omega Home Inspections, LLC Inspecting Upstate SC & Charlotte Metro, NC NACHI ID: NACHI05120170 www.aohomeinspection.com Last edited by jfunderburk; 2/15/11 at 12:56 AM.. |
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Oh I highlighted the wrong section but it seems they amended the part that read the primer has to be purple.
INSPECTIONLOGOS.COM "I can keep explaining it for you, but I can't understand it for you". Nick G. Monroe Home Inspection |
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Perhaps your state did. I posted the International Residential Code, 2009, above.
“The things that will destroy America are peace at any price, prosperity at any cost, safety first instead of duty first, the love of soft living, and the get-rich-quick theory of life.” Theodore Roosevelt Joe Funderburk, CMI Alpha & Omega Home Inspections, LLC Inspecting Upstate SC & Charlotte Metro, NC NACHI ID: NACHI05120170 www.aohomeinspection.com |
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#14
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We are not code inspectors. I would inform the client that there is no cleanout, or way to take the fitings apart without cutting it out.
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Maybe the installer was very careful when applying the primer. Or, like I do, maybe he taped off the rest of the pipe so it has a neat appearance when finished.
Personally, I don't like the purple primer. It is not the easiest thing to get off your hands! Or, he used this: Primer |
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