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Here is a pic w/ my comment at a recent new home move in inspection where I called out that the sediment trap / drip leg should be before flex line (low side), of water heater.
Thoughts on this, please. I had a debate w/ builders superintendent, who insisted that it should be right by unit, which as seen is in pic is on the high side of flex- not making sense to me since sediment, condensation, etc would settle better on low side of flex. Joe Keresztury JWK Inspections Home Inspections in San Antonio, Schertz, Cibolo, New Braunfels, Boerne and all surrounding South Texas areas www.jwkhomeinspections.com |
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What is pictured is correct.
The sediment trap should be as close as possible to the appliance. Joseph P. Hagarty joseph.hagarty@comcast.net Main Line Inspections, Inc. Phone: 610-399-3675 Email: MainLineHI@comcast.net http://pa.nachi.org/mainlinepa/about.html http://www.householdinspector.com National President / NACHI (2003-2004) NACHI Education Committee Member |
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Thanx Joe, here are a couple of images showing it should be the other way.
Joe Keresztury JWK Inspections Home Inspections in San Antonio, Schertz, Cibolo, New Braunfels, Boerne and all surrounding South Texas areas www.jwkhomeinspections.com |
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Joe, I agree with Joe!
Pic in 1st post is correct. 2nd Pic... there is a difference in the setup, thus the difference in the sediment trap location. Pic 3 looks like it may have 2 traps, but you blocked a portion of the 2nd one with your text box. Jeffrey R. Jonas Critical Eye Property Inspections JRJ Consultants Owatonna, Minnesota Chapter President InterNachi Awards Portal: http://co.nachi.org/inachiawards/
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Sediment traps and drip legs are actually two different things.
Sediment traps (also called dirt legs) are primarily to catch debris that may be inside the piping, and needs to be installed as close as practical to the equipment after the supply shut off valve (IRC G2419.4 Sediment Trap). All the pictures appear to show the required sediment traps. Drip legs are installed to catch moisture that may be in the gas if the local authority consideres the gas to be "wet", and must be installed at the lowest point in the gas piping where condensate could collect (IRC G2419.2 Drips). Many times the sediment trap and drip leg are the same thing (and the terms interchangeable) because it is both the lowest point in the piping and just before the equipment ... as in this picture ... ![]() In the following picture it appears that both a drip leg (on the left just as the pipe comes thru the wall) and a sediment trap (right at the equipment) are installed.
Robert O'Connor, PE Consulting Engineer & Inspector LIU CW Post Adjunct Professor NACHI Education Committee www.reporthost.com/-rjo I am absolutely amazed sometimes by how much thought goes into doing things wrong ... Last edited by roconnor; 7/4/11 at 9:36 AM.. |
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Here is an email image sent to me by a member, showing the drip leg/sediment trap before flex line as required by IRC. Everyone here agrees the drip leg/sediment trap should be as close to the WH gas valve as possible, which is true. But taking in consideration of the loop of the gas flex line, my opinion is that it should be before the flex line, changing the requirements and opinions of the drip leg/ sediment trap on a stiff (non flex) gas line that should be right before the gas valve of the Water Heater. Does this make sense?
Joe Keresztury JWK Inspections Home Inspections in San Antonio, Schertz, Cibolo, New Braunfels, Boerne and all surrounding South Texas areas www.jwkhomeinspections.com Last edited by jkeresztury; 7/12/11 at 11:41 PM.. |
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Sediment build-up from the flexible connector between the hard pipe and the gas valve isn't a significant concern, so what is shown in the diagram is adequate.
Robert O'Connor, PE Consulting Engineer & Inspector LIU CW Post Adjunct Professor NACHI Education Committee www.reporthost.com/-rjo I am absolutely amazed sometimes by how much thought goes into doing things wrong ... |
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David Hays All Points Home Inspections LLC Denver, CO 720-670-0366 allpointshomeinspect@yahoo.com www.allpointshomeinspections.org |
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Jeffrey R. Jonas Critical Eye Property Inspections JRJ Consultants Owatonna, Minnesota Chapter President InterNachi Awards Portal: http://co.nachi.org/inachiawards/
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Please Note:
bdoles2 is a non-member guest and is in no way affiliated with InterNACHI or its members.
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This Joe agrees with Joe also.
Either way is fine. Pick another battle. The direction of the leg (will sediment blow into it or blow past it) and the fact that it is after the shut-off valve are of primary importance. Whether it's before or after the connector is of little consequence. “The things that will destroy America are peace at any price, prosperity at any cost, safety first instead of duty first, the love of soft living, and the get-rich-quick theory of life.” Theodore Roosevelt Joe Funderburk, CMI Alpha & Omega Home Inspections, LLC Inspecting Upstate SC & Charlotte Metro, NC NACHI ID: NACHI05120170 www.aohomeinspection.com |
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