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Old 12/19/08, 1:25 PM
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Default Shut off on both the hot and cold side of water heater

I do not think this is a sensible idea, but I do not see any code to prohibit it.

I only see code requiring there be at least one shut-off.

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Old 12/19/08, 1:27 PM
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Default Re: Shut off on both the hot and cold side of water heater

OK. If there is no problem, then there is no problem.

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Old 12/19/08, 1:29 PM
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Default Re: Shut off on both the hot and cold side of water heater

I wouldn't worry about 2 valves , Some people put both sides on to service the tank with out disturbing the whole home. I do not believe it is against code
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No problem.
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Make sure it is on the cold side.
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Old 12/19/08, 3:57 PM
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Default Re: Shut off on both the hot and cold side of water heater

I think it should almost be standard. Much easier for water heater replacement, especially if unit is located on a lower floor. What's another $6 when it makes life easier. And I only go with ball valves. None of those gate valves for me. I've never found one that didn't eventually get stuck or leak.




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Old 12/19/08, 4:06 PM
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It makes life easier, like Stephen says...no problem.



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It's a good thing and facilitates replacement, especially when multiple units are plumbed in parallel. One unit can be independently isolated and replaced without shutting down the other unit.

Second the preference for ball valves.



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There is no reason to have a shut off valve on the hot water outlet of a water heater, besides closing both shut off valves makes a closed vessel.
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Old 12/19/08, 7:32 PM
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Default Re: Shut off on both the hot and cold side of water heater

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There is no reason to have a shut off valve on the hot water outlet of a water heater, besides closing both shut off valves makes a closed vessel.

It does seem a little dangerous to me also. I guess it will become a practical TPR test.
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Old 12/19/08, 7:41 PM
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It does seem a little dangerous to me also. I guess it will become a practical TPR test.

If they are both closed because the heater is being replaced, where does the heat come from?



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There is no reason to have a shut off valve on the hot water outlet of a water heater, besides closing both shut off valves makes a closed vessel.
It prevents all the water in the lines above from leaking out during heater replacement.



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If they are both closed because the heater is being replaced, where does the heat come from?

One two many ifs for me. What happens when they are both closed while the heater is on?


You usually drain the tank during replacement anyway, I do not see any real advantage for the extra expense.
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One two many if's for me. What happens when they are both closed while the heater is on?
What if one's closed and one's open and the water heater is tuned on then off then on again?

Seems the guys who've never seen this are in areas with WH in the attic.
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What if one's closed and one's open and the water heater is tuned on then off then on again?

Seems the guys who've never seen this are in areas with WH in the attic.

Dammit Rick stop that right now, I can't think straight.
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