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Old 12/19/08, 7:59 PM
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Old 12/19/08, 8:02 PM
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One two many ifs for me. What happens when they are both closed while the heater is on?
The pipes would need heat to build pressure, no? Where does that come from?


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You usually drain the tank during replacement anyway, I do not see any real advantage for the extra expense.
See post # 12.



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What ifffff the home tips over with all the extra wieght of the valves.
Just kidding , Anyway what makes it a open system if there are no open valves? Boilers often have 2 valves installed.
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Old 12/19/08, 9:27 PM
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The pipes would need heat to build pressure, no? Where does that come from?

See post # 12.

Larry put ten valves in, if you are going with the more valves is better theory.

I am sure all the water leaking costs waaaaay more than an extra valve and labor.

Two valves seems redundant to me and not as safe as one valve.

I am starting to think some of the posters are Valve Salsemen.
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Old 12/19/08, 9:29 PM
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Two valves seems redundant to me and not as safe as one valve.
How is one valve safer?

When all the faucets are closed in the house it's the same.



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Old 12/19/08, 9:32 PM
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My house is PEX.
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Old 12/19/08, 9:33 PM
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Larry put ten valves in, if you are going with the more valves is better theory.
Jeez, Brian...next time could you respond a little faster? I've been holding my breath waiting for your okay.



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Old 12/19/08, 9:41 PM
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Jeez, Brian...next time could you respond a little faster? I've been holding my breath waiting for your okay.
2 inspection this week and one draw Larry, I am going stir crazy, Sorry.
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Old 12/19/08, 9:47 PM
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2 inspection this week and one draw Larry, I am going stir crazy, Sorry.
No problem my friend. The snow is getting a little deep in Michigan, too.



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Old 12/19/08, 9:54 PM
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You gotta admit the ten valve things was good though.

I have never seen a water heater installation manual recomending two valves. Dosen't mean it is wrong though. Probably the plumber needed some extra money for the weekend or something.
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Old 12/19/08, 10:10 PM
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See post 13:

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Old 12/19/08, 10:21 PM
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Permitted by some unadopted plumbing code. I guessed that. Thanx Larry.

Further along was interesting, not allowed in Chi Town, that would be right also, they have to be different about everything.
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Most international plumbing code states only a valve on the cold water is required in order to service the water heater. However two valves are more convenient for servicing. There is absolutly nothing wrong with it. Especially when the tank is in a bad spot i.e the aforementioned attic. The The tank would not be a closed system because of the TPR valve. If it is bad then that is a whole different problem. I hope that helps.

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Default Shut off on both the hot and cold side of water heater

Thank you. But I am as confused as when I started.
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One is needed, two is OK
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