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Old 3/13/08, 11:30 PM
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White 4" pipes sticking up about a foot above the basement slab. They could be rough-ins for future plumbing waste but they're the wrong kind of pipe and why would they be out in the middle of the floor like this?

They look like risers for venting something but what? Are they connected to the line from the perimeter drain to the sump pit? Why?




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Old 3/13/08, 11:32 PM
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Radon Mitigation???
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Old 3/14/08, 12:09 AM
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Rough in for possible bath room fixture or sink.
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Rough in for possible bath room fixture or sink.
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Old 3/14/08, 7:41 AM
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Rough in for possible bath room fixture or sink.
Unless they were planning on using the sump pit as a mini septic tank, I doubt that was the intention.

More than likely it is some sort of sub-slab ventilation to prevent water pressure from building up under the slab and creating hydrolic pressure. Is there low permiable soil or a high water table in the area where the house was built?
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Default Re: What are these things?

seems if it was a vent, then vent to the exterior. Are they connected to each other? They are oddly placed in the corner of the rooms... as if under a planned piece of furniture... perhaps a cat5/coax conduit.. (overkill)
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I'd expect to see a waste line for a toilet up against the exterior wall with rough-ins for water supply. These things were out in the middle of the floor. Wierd places to think someone might decide to put a camode.

No one in their right mind would vent a passive radon mitigation system to the living space.

Sump pits make the tiniest septic tanks... got to have them pumped four times a day!

There was 14 inches of water in the sump pit. I think you've got it Scott, thanks.




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Unless they were planning on using the sump pit as a mini septic tank, I doubt that was the intention.

More than likely it is some sort of sub-slab ventilation to prevent water pressure from building up under the slab and creating hydrolic pressure. Is there low permiable soil or a high water table in the area where the house was built?
I agree w/ Erol + Chris. The "sump-pit" looks to be sealed and is most likely a pit for an ejector pump. Seems they could have plumbed in the ejector pump, though.
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Doesn't look like a 'gas-tight' sewage pit, especially right next to the egress window?

Have to have peaked in the pit, was the lining perforated?

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Doesn't look like a 'gas-tight' sewage pit, especially right next to the egress window?

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I was looking at pic #1. Looks like a different location from the lack of "astroturf".
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I was looking at pic #1. Looks like a different location from the lack of "astroturf".
It is, from what I see, so we agree. What I was pointing out, was if it is the only egress window in the basement, if you frame in the bathroom, you now have removed it from the basement. See?

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Radon Mitigation???

What are these things?3/14/08 4:59 PMfor real?

Yes...for real...I never said the system was completed...could be for future installation if in a high Radon Risk area... Think what you will, I see all kinds of systems and designs in Minnesota... nothing surprises me anymore!!!


http://www.epa.gov/radon/pubs/hmbyguid.html
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What are these things?3/14/08 4:59 PMfor real?

Yes...for real...I never said the system was completed...could be for future installation if in a high Radon Risk area... Think what you will, I see all kinds of systems and designs in Minnesota... nothing surprises me anymore!!!


http://www.epa.gov/radon/pubs/hmbyguid.html
Interesting!
Whatever it is for it is certainly not completed.
Nice pic
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Radon Mitigation???
That was my first thought. Dumb locations, too.
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Default Re: What are these things?

They were capped. The pit was not sealed and had an incoming line consistent with a perimeter drain. That EPA image looks very similar to the condition I found.




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