TRP Drain Line Question

[Russel Ray]

No doubt. Unfortunatley, it's not quite as clear to some of those who carry out California Standards. I'm not a code enforcement officer, so I'm going to leave that to those who are.

[Emmanuel J. Scanlan]

Still debating this? The IRC does not allow it, the IPC nor CPC nor UPC allows it. If you would like to ask some experts there is a nice debate going on here about it:

http://www.iccsafe.org/cgi-bin/ultim...c;f=2;t=001564

[Russel Ray]

I've learned not to argue with the AHJ because that's the final authority that my Clients and the Realtors go to. That's usually how I find out about these things, usually proceeding like this:

Home inspector says ABC about plumbing and recommends further evaluation by a licensed plumber.
Client or Realtor calls for further evaluation by a licensed plumber.
Plumber says the home inspector is nuts.
Client or Realtor calls the home inspector to tell him that the licensed plumber said the home inspector is nuts.
Home inspector says to have licensed plumber put it in writing on his company letterhead, date it, and sign it.
If licensed plumber does that, then we'll call the local AHJ and get their interpretation.
About 50% of the time the licensed plumber is correct. That, of course, also means that about 50% of the time the home inspector is not nuts. Considering that the licensed plumber, by virtue of his licensing, is supposed to be more knowledgeable than a lowly, unlicensed home inspector yet is wrong 50% of the time, this home inspector is pretty happy that he can hold his own with those licensed plumbing experts.

Now copy the above and, wherever "plumber" and "plumbing" appear, enter any other profession, such as "electrician," "engineer," "pest control," etc.

Yep, this home inspector is pretty happy, as are his bankers, accountant, and employees.

[Jeffrey R. Pope]

Notwithstanding your mental status Russ , it's wrong - the TPR cannot discharge into the water heater pan (in CA) - and I hope you would call it out as such.

There have been many instances where I have been asked to reinspect or amend my report to reflect the opinion of an "expert" who contradicted my findings. It ain't happenin' (unless, of course, I was wrong ).

I would much rather have the contradiction of the inspection report and the plumbers written statement when it's in front of a judge due to property damage or personal injury from (what I found to be) an improper installation.

[Russel Ray]

Originally Posted by jpope

Notwithstanding your mental status Russ

Oh, yeah.
Fine.
Question my mental status on Cinco de Mayo.
Uh-huh.
I understand.
That's okay.
I never schedule inspections on National Margarita Day, so I'll just have to get Dr Cuervo and his assistant, Ms Margarita to help me with my mental status.

Originally Posted by jpope

. . .it's wrong - the TPR cannot discharge into the water heater pan (in CA) - and I hope you would call it out as such.

You can ask me how I address it if you would like. I don't "call it out as such," but I do have wording methods for addressing things that I disagree with the local AHJ's about, such as the TPR drain pipe terminating outside with a billion 90° elbows in the course of its one-mile run.

Originally Posted by jpope

There have been many instances where I have been asked to reinspect or amend my report to reflect the opinion of an "expert" who contradicted my findings. It ain't happenin'.

Fortunately (I guess), that has never happened to me. I have had several Top 10 Realtors advise me on how to write my report. Since they are Top 10 Realtors and have sooooooooooo much money, I have invited a couple of them to purchase my company so that they can advise themselves on how to write their reports. No one has taken me up on it yet.
Darn.

Originally Posted by jpope

I would much rather have the contradiction of the inspection report and the plumbers written statement when it's in front of a judge due to property damage or personal injury from (what I found to be) an improper installation.

So would I. That's kind of like a duh! I think.
But the ol' AHJ can still override the inspection report and the plumber's written statement.

[Jeffrey R. Pope]

After further research, I have to agree with Manny.

It appears that the International Plumbing Code (IPC) prohibits it as well. Reference IPC Sections 504.6.1 and 504.7.1

I guess someone should put a call in to the authors of Code Check

[Russel Ray]

There have been many errors found in Code Check over the years.

The authors posted at creia.org, ashi.org, and inspectionnews.com inviting those who find errors to let them know.

I have not seen them posting at nachi.org inviting those who find errors to let them know, so don't tell them.

[cpatterson1]

I saw one in a laundry tub, if I am correct after reading this thread, that would not be allowed either?