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Old 1/23/12, 8:26 PM
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Water service pipe enters the foundation wall at the bottom right of the photo. See anything wrong?

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Where are all the CMIs?



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Old 1/23/12, 10:41 PM
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Joe, one Charley is more than enough



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Old 1/23/12, 10:42 PM
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From NACHI Plumbing Course:

With few exceptions, the water service pipe and the dwelling’s sewer pipe should be separated by 5 feet of undisturbed or compacted earth. The separation is intended to reduce the possibility of the sewer contaminating the potable water supply. Contamination can occur when there’s a leak in the building's sewer located near the water service pipe. The soil around it can become contaminated. If the water service pipe has a break in it, then contamination could occur. The water service pipe should not be located in, under or above cesspools, septic tanks, septic drainage fields or seepage pits.



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Old 1/23/12, 10:44 PM
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From NACHI Plumbing Course:

With few exceptions, the water service pipe and the dwelling’s sewer pipe should be separated by 5 feet of undisturbed or compacted earth. The separation is intended to reduce the possibility of the sewer contaminating the potable water supply. Contamination can occur when there’s a leak in the building's sewer located near the water service pipe. The soil around it can become contaminated. If the water service pipe has a break in it, then contamination could occur. The water service pipe should not be located in, under or above cesspools, septic tanks, septic drainage fields or seepage pits.
That rule doesn't apply to plastic piping, which are 100% of the time laid in the same trench to the home. Nothing wrong there. The issue is in view. Not waste pipe related at all.



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Old 1/23/12, 10:49 PM
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Fudge.

PEX pipe requires horizontal support every 2.67 feet



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Hint: that black thing at the floor joist is the pressure reducing valve.



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Old 1/23/12, 10:56 PM
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Whatever that white pipe services (hose bib?) is seeing full pressure



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Whatever that white pipe services (hose bib?) is seeing full pressure
Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding!

Whether or not the pressure at the hose bib was < 80, it could be > 80 depending on the time of day you measure it. And it could be higher at any point in the future if the municipality increases system pressure.



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Did it go to a hose bib or a sprinkler system? A Tee prior to the pressure reducing valve is quite common for landscaping purposes and distant point of use faucets especially on larger parcels.




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From NACHI Plumbing Course:

With few exceptions, the water service pipe and the dwelling’s sewer pipe should be separated by 5 feet of undisturbed or compacted earth. The separation is intended to reduce the possibility of the sewer contaminating the potable water supply. Contamination can occur when there’s a leak in the building's sewer located near the water service pipe. The soil around it can become contaminated. If the water service pipe has a break in it, then contamination could occur. The water service pipe should not be located in, under or above cesspools, septic tanks, septic drainage fields or seepage pits.
Not applicable! Didn't you see the Air Gap!!!
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Old 1/24/12, 8:17 AM
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Did it go to a hose bib or a sprinkler system? A Tee prior to the pressure reducing valve is quite common for landscaping purposes and distant point of use faucets especially on larger parcels.
Hose bib.



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Old 1/24/12, 10:15 AM
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The location of the regulator is more of an issue than the fact that an exterior hose bib is not regulated.

The pressure should be regulated before it enters the structure, not somewhere within.



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Around here it is common practice to allow an exterior hose bib to be off the regulated system. I have argued this case in point before.




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Around here it is common practice to allow an exterior hose bib to be off the regulated system. I have argued this case in point before.
It may be common practice, but it is a defect in my opinion. There are at least 2 fittings (at the T and at the hose bib) that could be overly stressed by high pressure and flood the crawl space.



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