Back Deck

[Marcel R. Cyr]

I saw that too Larry, but thought it was a shadow.

I am surprised that no one mentioned anything about the open risers yet.

[Joe Funderburk, CMI]

Originally Posted by sfogarty

Do you really think that landing is going to fail?

No. At least not all at once. The more serious issue for me is the lack of flashing.

[Sean Fogarty]

The more serious issue for me is the lack of flashing.

is it wood or hardie sidiing? If its hardie you know it wont rot any time in our lives

[Joe Funderburk, CMI]

Originally Posted by sfogarty

is it wood or hardie sidiing? If its hardie you know it wont rot any time in our lives

Probably so. However it contains wood fiber. That's why Mr. Hardie says it's not supposed to be in contact with decks.

[Marcel R. Cyr]

Joe, sometimes you can't believe everything you read.

Even manufacturers will write everything under the sun to compensate for ill installaions just to protect themselves.

[Brian A. MacNeish]

Originally Posted by jfunderburk

Probably so. However it contains wood fiber. That's why Mr. Hardie says it's not supposed to be in contact with decks.

Just last spring I saw some failed Hardiplank on an 8 year old home. I was quite surprised.

[Joe Funderburk, CMI]

Originally Posted by sfogarty

is it wood or hardie sidiing? If its hardie you know it wont rot any time in our lives

How do you know that? How long has the product been on the market?

So, you're OK with installation of a structure against the house that voids the warranty on the siding? You'd say nothing about that? Are you also OK with putting a structure against metal and vinyl siding?

[Sean Fogarty]

So, you're OK with installation of a structure against the house that voids the warranty on the siding? You'd say nothing about that? Are you also OK with putting a structure against metal and vinyl siding?

What does your comment have to do with the deck being flashed??

You originally stated

The more serious issue for me is the lack of flashing.

WHich would lead me to believe you feel the siding will rot due to no flashing.
Maybe it does have some wood, but here is the warranty info.

I would also would not state somthing about the the deck atachment voiding the siding. What, 2 planks of it?? How is a product that should last 30 years and impervious to rot going to fail if its against wood? If that was the case then it would fail in tons of applications since most houses are made of wood.

Why dont you send me the link that shows us exactly what this product is made of.

BTW, when I see a deck that is bolted against the vinyl I write it up as improper, but if its bolted its should not fail.
IT also would probably not have any more water issues then that of many flashed decks. Threse applications are not correct, but I would not write them up in a manner that would make us think they are deficient.

Joe, maybe you should focus more on common sense then technical building practices you read about in some book

Here is the warranty info BTW
http://www.jameshardie.com/pdf/warranty/hz10-hs0946.pdf

[Marcel R. Cyr]

There's got to be another warranty for the Northeast, see that product everywhere Sean.
I also would not be concerned with the flashing for that type of product. Not for that little landing. Seen worse.

[Sean Fogarty]

There is Marcel.
They had one for the south, the rest of the country and then Canada. I just picked one for relevence. Your right, common sense goes a long way.

[Joseph Hagarty, CMI]

"Improper attachment of the deck ledger to siding without flashing"

[Joseph Hagarty, CMI]

May the AHJ disagree.... yes.
but
he is exempt from recompense
If you have E&O
you are not
big difference....

[Joseph Hagarty, CMI]

Builder and Municipal Inspector may be Wrong....

having the Insurance

You are ultimately responsible.

[Joe Funderburk, CMI]

Originally Posted by sfogarty

JI never said I would not call it out as being installed improperly, I would.

I got the feeling that you would overlook it based on "common sense". I do agree that the siding will be there a long time unless something unusual occurs and I would orally tell my client that. I would likely call it out as improper but might not put it in the summary as a significant issue.

Sorry for the insult.