InterNACHI


Go Back   InterNACHI Inspection Forum > Specific Inspection Topics > Structural Inspections

Notices

Structural Inspections Contains discussions about the structural portion of a home inspection. This includes foundations, framing, etc.

 
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 10/2/10, 6:18 AM
Joshua L. Frederick Joshua L. Frederick is online now
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Defiance, OH
Posts: 832
Send a message via AIM to jfrederick
Default Basement foundation cracks

Older home (1930's). Foundation walls in basement had an additonal block wall built in front of original foundation walls that went approx. 3/4 of the way up and had about a 2' ledge or "shelf" on top of this wall. All of these walls had horizontal cracks at the top course of block below this "shelf" on this "interior" wall, some significant. However, there was little movement, and walls were relatively plumb. Cracks were, in relation to the exterior grade, at or about 1' below grade. There was minor moisture seepage through masonry at the bottom/efflorescence, typical with age of home (nothing major/out of the ordinary). Exterior conditions were o.k. (e.g. grading, gutters/downspouts, etc.) and the interior showed no signs of foundataion/structural concerns (e.g. plaster cracks, doors & windows, etc.)
Now, what would cause the cracks like this? Any ideas?

Thanks in advance. Any help/insight is always appreciated!
Attached Thumbnails
basement-foundation-cracks-10345-haller-road-defiance-172.jpg   basement-foundation-cracks-10345-haller-road-defiance-095.jpg   basement-foundation-cracks-10345-haller-road-defiance-098.jpg   basement-foundation-cracks-10345-haller-road-defiance-106.jpg   basement-foundation-cracks-10345-haller-road-defiance-105.jpg  

Reply With Quote
Need a home inspection in Oregon? Check out InterNACHI's listing of Oregon certified home inspectors. Or, find a home inspector anywhere in the world with our inspection search engine.
  #2  
Old 10/2/10, 10:34 AM
Joshua L. Frederick Joshua L. Frederick is online now
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Defiance, OH
Posts: 832
Send a message via AIM to jfrederick
Default Re: Basement foundation cracks

O.K., maybe I'll simplify things a bit. What causes horizontal cracks high on a basement wall?
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 10/2/10, 1:03 PM
Joshua L. Frederick Joshua L. Frederick is online now
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Defiance, OH
Posts: 832
Send a message via AIM to jfrederick
Default Re: Basement foundation cracks

Having difficulty sorting through all the replies.... I guess there must be some good football game on.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 10/2/10, 2:09 PM
Wayne B. Wilson's Avatar
Wayne B. Wilson Wayne B. Wilson is online now
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Powell, Tn
Posts: 8,234
Default Re: Basement foundation cracks

It appears that it was a crawl space made to a basement, I would say just the inward pressure behind the wall is causing it. Was there any bowing or water issues?
Joshua if you want want replies add politics or religion in your post .
Something like this (The foundation of our country is crumbing .) lolol



Wayne Wilson
East TN Home Inspections LLC
Knoxville, Oak Ridge, Maryville, Clinton, Farragut, Lenoir City, Pigeon Forge, Sevierville and all the surrounding areas.
865-256-1490

http://site.myhomeinspection.net

Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 10/2/10, 4:54 PM
Wayne B. Wilson's Avatar
Wayne B. Wilson Wayne B. Wilson is online now
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Powell, Tn
Posts: 8,234
Default Re: Basement foundation cracks

Did the inside wall Have a footing or did they just use the slab?



Wayne Wilson
East TN Home Inspections LLC
Knoxville, Oak Ridge, Maryville, Clinton, Farragut, Lenoir City, Pigeon Forge, Sevierville and all the surrounding areas.
865-256-1490

http://site.myhomeinspection.net

Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 10/2/10, 6:17 PM
James E. Braun, CMI's Avatar
James E. Braun, CMI James E. Braun, CMI is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Jefferson City, MO
Posts: 6,945
Default Re: Basement foundation cracks

This type of foundation is very common in my area. There is usually no footing under the outer wall. The inner wall just holds the soil in place under the outerwall. It will slowly get worse but it would take longer than my lifetime to see a complete failure. I have seen these inner walls lean in a good 30 degrees all ready without failing. I just note it and move one.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 10/2/10, 6:48 PM
Marcel R. Cyr's Avatar
Marcel R. Cyr Marcel R. Cyr is offline
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Winslow, ME
Posts: 19,798
Default Re: Basement foundation cracks

Quote:
Originally Posted by jfrederick View Post
Older home (1930's). Foundation walls in basement had an additonal block wall built in front of original foundation walls that went approx. 3/4 of the way up and had about a 2' ledge or "shelf" on top of this wall. All of these walls had horizontal cracks at the top course of block below this "shelf" on this "interior" wall, some significant. However, there was little movement, and walls were relatively plumb. Cracks were, in relation to the exterior grade, at or about 1' below grade. There was minor moisture seepage through masonry at the bottom/efflorescence, typical with age of home (nothing major/out of the ordinary). Exterior conditions were o.k. (e.g. grading, gutters/downspouts, etc.) and the interior showed no signs of foundataion/structural concerns (e.g. plaster cracks, doors & windows, etc.)
Now, what would cause the cracks like this? Any ideas?

Thanks in advance. Any help/insight is always appreciated!
I think Wayne was on the right course of questions on this one.
1930's home most likely had a stone foundation with either brick at the top two feet or all stone.
The unbalanced fill on the wall might have been too much and over the years started to give way to the interior or deteriorated to the point of collapes, why else would they build a new block wall on the interior that don't seem to support anything above that I can see?

Unless you can verify what is going on behind the block wall that caused this inward pressure to create that crack, I would defer it in a heartbeat to an engineer or Architect.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 10/2/10, 8:45 PM
Wayne B. Wilson's Avatar
Wayne B. Wilson Wayne B. Wilson is online now
InterNACHI Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Powell, Tn
Posts: 8,234
Default Re: Basement foundation cracks

Yep Marcel
I have seen this several times down here



Wayne Wilson
East TN Home Inspections LLC
Knoxville, Oak Ridge, Maryville, Clinton, Farragut, Lenoir City, Pigeon Forge, Sevierville and all the surrounding areas.
865-256-1490

http://site.myhomeinspection.net

Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Renovating Your Basement for Livability mkyriacou Canadian Inspectors 0 10/22/09 11:45 AM
Site grading and drainage wdevries Canadian Inspectors 5 10/6/09 10:23 PM
Foundation wall cracks and bowing jmanders Structural Inspections 8 5/27/09 9:03 PM
Options in selecting materials for basement construction wdevries Canadian Inspectors 2 8/4/08 1:30 PM
Common Defects List by Age of House trausch Inspection Education & Training 10 6/12/06 4:52 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 1:27 PM.


Popular Sections

:

All Sections

Inspection News

InterNACHI Membership

Inspection Standards

Inspection Education

InterNACHI Inspectors

Inspection Links

 

 

 

NACHI.ORG Statistics

 

 

no new posts