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Old 10/9/11, 2:22 PM
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Default Black substance on Attic framing....Need advice

The house was built in 2000. The attic access cover
was missing. No info. for how long the access was missing.
This attic contains two heaters. Half the attic looked great
no mold like substance on the boards. The other half (the
westside) had mold like substance on the trusses....

No evidence that the roof is leaking....Riverside calif. is a
low humidity climate.

Its more black substance then Ive ever seen in the Attic...
Part of me says no worries...Part of me does not want to
chance a problem.......












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Old 10/9/11, 4:06 PM
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If it looks like mold, smells like mold and tastes like mold, it is mold. If it is mold, it is builders mold. Look at the blocking or strapping clear mark on the wood in the third picture. If it was caused after the house was completed, you would see mold on the sheathing first because sheathing is more porous and contains glue which mold loves to snack on.
That much mold in the attic can cause problems, especially since there is ductwork in the attic.



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Old 10/9/11, 4:18 PM
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From a photo it's hard to tell. However, why some wood members and not others. There is also a beetle called an ambrosia beetle. They leave a stain behind them when they exit the wood. This is in the wood before it's kiln dried. Make sure the blemish is current and not milled that way. Look at the adjoining wood members and see if there is a consistency to the mosaic.
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Old 10/9/11, 6:36 PM
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By only using your comments and photos provided, it sound like the attic has inadequate ventilation that is trapping moisture, either caused by lack of venting or blockage of existing. This can also create hot zones during the summer, and during the winter the under ventilated areas can lead to condensation, mold and mildew. You also mentioned that there was no evidence that the roof is leaking. The moisture maybe coming from the condensation tube or tubes (you mentioned 2 furnaces), they may not be draining properly or leaking.
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Old 10/9/11, 10:53 PM
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By only using your comments and photos provided, it sound like the attic has inadequate ventilation that is trapping moisture, either caused by lack of venting or blockage of existing. This can also create hot zones during the summer, and during the winter the under ventilated areas can lead to condensation, mold and mildew. You also mentioned that there was no evidence that the roof is leaking. The moisture maybe coming from the condensation tube or tubes (you mentioned 2 furnaces), they may not be draining properly or leaking.
Thanks for the explanation....what type of verbiage should I add to
the report? Who or what contractor could fix a situation like this.

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If it looks like mold, smells like mold and tastes like mold, it is mold. If it is mold, it is builders mold. Look at the blocking or strapping clear mark on the wood in the third picture. If it was caused after the house was completed, you would see mold on the sheathing first because sheathing is more porous and contains glue which mold loves to snack on.
That much mold in the attic can cause problems, especially since there is ductwork in the attic.
Like James said, its prolly Mold, looking at the marks when the Trusses were bundled at the factory and tossed off the truck at the job-site the mildew probably formed prior to installation, since the A/C ducts are under positive pressure I wouldn't say anything besides it looks like the trusses have past mildew on them but their dry now (since I'm sure you checked with a moisture meter), and since nobody is living in the attic (we hope), don't lose any sleep over it.....
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Thanks for the explanation....what type of verbiage should I add to
the report? Who or what contractor could fix a situation like this.

David
If you feel that you need to report a mold/fungus concern you can use a verbiage like so.

Visible evidence of suspected fungal growth was observed. Recommend further review from a certified mold remediation specialist.
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Old 10/10/11, 4:41 AM
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Like James said, its prolly Mold, looking at the marks when the Trusses were bundled at the factory and tossed off the truck at the job-site the mildew probably formed prior to installation, since the A/C ducts are under positive pressure I wouldn't say anything besides it looks like the trusses have past mildew on them but their dry now (since I'm sure you checked with a moisture meter), and since nobody is living in the attic (we hope), don't lose any sleep over it.....
I see this frequentlyand agree with Dale no big deal.
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I see this frequentlyand agree with Dale no big deal.
All homes have mould just leave a piece of open cheese on the counter and see what happens.. Roy
Good advice with the cheese Roy. You can also determine if you have mice in the home if they eat the cheese.
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It looks Like Organic growth Seeing most of us can not do on site Mold testing. Most likely Truss's were sitting outside for a awhile.. as most said There is strap marks.
I would mention it, and recommend treatment . at least here anyway. with temperature changes Condensation and so on it could activate growth . Some fungus can be as bad as Termites ,The old CYA



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Most likely Truss's were sitting outside for a awhile.. as most said here strap marks.
Ditto. Likely developed prior to construction.




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I see this frequentlyand agree with Dale no big deal.
All homes have mould just leave a piece of open cheese on the counter and see what happens.. Roy
Roy, you do not want me to start pointing out facts again, do you? The last time Dale left the thread.



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Old 10/10/11, 10:11 AM
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Roy, you do not want me to start pointing out facts again, do you? The last time Dale left the thread.
Please do James. We love facts around here!
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Roy, you do not want me to start pointing out facts again, do you? The last time Dale left the thread.
Thanks for your post It might be a good idea if you check with Dale and see if he was upset with my post .
I think you are over stepping a bit ... Roy



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