Cement block girder support

[KEVIN WOOD]

Did I say I agree with it. NO!!!!!!!

[Michael Larson]

Originally Posted by kwood

Did I say I agree with it. NO!!!!!!!

I'll make sure to come to you in the future as you are convinced you have teh only right answer.

[Michael Larson]

Originally Posted by ryoung7

Black Michel same as your attitude.
HA HA HA

Robert. Man up.

[KEVIN WOOD]

Marcel will be along soon and we will start all over again since you started up this discussion again. LOL

[Michael Larson]

Originally Posted by ryoung7

Do not understand Michel?
Man up?

Admit when you are wrong

[Marcel R. Cyr]

Well, we sure have discussed a block pier to death by now and no matter if it looks like this or not, unless there are signs of sagging, breaking of the pier, I would probably leave it alone and just mention that the pier would be better if it were capped with full bearing pressure treated lumber to utilize the full capacity of the hollow block.

Now hope we can put this one to sleep.

I may be wrong, but this won't be the first time. Remember the definition of experience. (a whole bunch of mistakes, and I have a lot of that.)

[Michael Larson]

Originally Posted by ryoung7

Sure Michel.
Too?
Sorry if I am on the computer to ong today. 8 hours so far.
Help me please.

Robert O will have to explain it to you

[ROBERT V. YOUNG]

Originally Posted by mlarson

Robert O will have to explain it to you

Happy?

[Michael Larson]

Originally Posted by ryoung7

Happy?

Happiness is a fleeting state of mind.

Joy is for ever.

[ROBERT V. YOUNG]

No actually Joy is Debbie's friend. Remember at the at the Christmas party when everyone was feeling Marry.
She left so everyone jumped for JOY.
HA HA HA.

[Robert J. OConnor]

Originally Posted by kwood

Did I say I agree with it. NO!!!!!!!

I just thought it was funny that you posted a code section that directly contradicted your pier orientation and snap theory, without rethinking your position or finding some other industry standards or documentation to support it ... which don't exist.

Originally Posted by kwood

Marcel will be along soon and we will start all over again since you started up this discussion again. LOL

I don't think Marcel will be here to save the day for you, as he seems to be on board now with the rest of us that the pier cap is the real issue, not orientation.

Marcel is a very sharp builder and inspector, and I have a lot of respect for him. We are both pretty set in our opinions, but through meaningful debate can still learn from each other over the many years we have both been on this board.

[KEVIN WOOD]

Nice picture Marcel does this come from one of your inspections or a build you were on?
I would think that the tops of these were filled with concrete.
Here are some more pictures to stretch out this discussion on proper orientation. I am hoping to hit all time high of 1000 posts. Don't quit now Robbert O you are on a roll.

[ROBERT V. YOUNG]

Deficiencies.
No cement cap.
No termite shields.
Moisture stains.
Bad bearing point.
Attachment 48209

[Robert J. OConnor]

Looks like the ones in the worst condition are running parallel to the beams ...