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Old 11/21/06, 8:05 AM
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Hi Everyone,

Is this condensation or a leak?

New home 11th month home warenty inspection.
Roof recnetly patched in a valley one rafter over.
Drywall is very damp to wet below.
Weather: Rain sometimes heavy last 24 hrs.
Much mold growth in attic
No other area has these water beads.

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Old 11/21/06, 8:14 AM
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Default Re: Condensation or Leak

I would lean towards condensation. Is there a heat source nearby? A bathroom exhaust vent? What's in the room below this area? Could be a leak though...is that an outside wall next to the wet area? What does the drip edge flashing look like in that area? What type of roofing? Asphalt shingles? What do they look like in that area?
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Old 11/21/06, 8:27 AM
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This is next to an exterior wall over a bedroom with no nearby heat source nearby? Also inspected the eaves on the other side of the wall and saw no problems all all though even though there was no drip edge flashing. the eave hung out about 18" and was dry underneath.
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Old 11/21/06, 8:29 AM
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Other notes:
Ashphalt shinges and a garage below the bedroom into which the leak made it at one time.
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Hi to all,

My guess is an active leak, and patch repairs are not going to help that sheathing it needs replacement.

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Old 11/21/06, 10:21 AM
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I would lean towards the condensation theory.
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Old 11/21/06, 10:40 AM
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It could just be the picture, but it almost looks like sap. Did you feel it to be sure?



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Default Re: Condensation or Leak

because it's beaded up so much and not just soaked and drippy, my vote is condensation.

although, i'm curious to find out why it would be so concentrated in one area

unless there's an exhaust vent nearby.

the fact that a patch/repair was done nearby throws my opinion back to a leak.

could be a combo of both.
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Old 11/21/06, 11:02 AM
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I too am voting "condensation," but the hanging drips do look like sap. Did you check for bathroom exhaust fans and, more importantly, ventilation in the area?



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Hi All,

Boy you guys are a lot of help?!

You I did touch it, as I thought sap as well, but the drops were as wet as water could be. No vents were near here either.

Here is another clue there were here looked like fly and some potato bugs but I am not sure what kind. It was strange to see them congregating in this area.

Suggestions for verbage perhaps anyone?

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Old 11/21/06, 11:59 AM
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Could the air be getting up past the attic door is it gasketed and insulated .
How about pot lights air from the home looks to me to be getting into the attic.
Needs better ventilation both sofit and roof.
Needs to stop home air getting into attic.
Proper ventilation and this should not happen this bad
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The reason I am thinking this may be just condensation is that below it is a wet wall and ceiling.

If no one else has anyone EVER seen known condensation that looks like this then I think I will rule this out.

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I agree there is not enough ventalation.

The reason I am thinking this may just be condensation is that below it is a wet all and ceiling.

If no one else has anyone EVER seen known condenation that looks like this then I think I will rule this out.

Keep then comming please and thanks all.

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OH! yes I and I expct many others have seen it like this .

http://www.ronhungarter.com/nw_scary_attic.html

http://www.ronhungarter.com/siding.html

http://www.ronhungarter.com/mold-attic.html

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Quote:
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Hi Everyone,

Is this condensation or a leak?

New home 11th month home warenty inspection.
Roof recnetly patched in a valley one rafter over.
Drywall is very damp to wet below.
Weather: Rain sometimes heavy last 24 hrs.
Much mold growth in attic
No other area has these water beads.

Thanks for your oppinions and please give me a break this is my 1st post.
What type of attic vapor barrier?
How was the attic ventilation?
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Old 11/21/06, 1:11 PM
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No attic vapor barrier only blown in insulation directly onto the sheetrock supported by rafters.

As for the Ventelation It did not look like enough. I am working on determinaing if indead this is a factor at this time.
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