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Old 10/31/06, 5:44 PM
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Can anyone guess the material used to make this handrail.

Needless to say, I doubt it will hold up a falling person and noted such on the report.
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Old 10/31/06, 6:09 PM
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PVC.

Also, needs properly spaced vertical spindles.

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Old 10/31/06, 6:11 PM
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Those steps don't require a rail to begin with, so step lightly (no pun intended) with your recommendation. . .



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Old 10/31/06, 8:33 PM
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maybe it was installed to help an older person. If so, they should secure it better.



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Old 10/31/06, 8:41 PM
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That looks like 1 1/2 pvc pipe, it should be 2 1/4 ha ha
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Old 10/31/06, 10:00 PM
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Those steps don't require a rail to begin with, so step lightly (no pun intended) with your recommendation. . .
Looks like 3 risers to me which makes me recommend that a railing with properly installed spindles be installed for safety.

How many risers do you look for?

Does the height of the steps look off as well (too small), or is it just the picture?

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Old 10/31/06, 10:30 PM
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I do think there should be a landing at there so you do not open the door and fall down the steps . Roy Cooke
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Old 10/31/06, 11:01 PM
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From the 2003 IRC R311.5.6 Handrails. Handrails shall be provided on at least one side of each continuous run of treads or flight with four or more risers.



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Looks like 3 risers to me which makes me recommend that a railing with properly installed spindles be installed for safety.
What standard would you base this recommendation on?

I agree, that if it's in place, it should perform its intended function, and conform to the standard requirements of a railing.



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I do think there should be a landing at there so you do not open the door and fall down the steps . Roy Cooke
Roy

Our code 9.8.4.2 [1] [2] [3] [4]

You are correct if this is the main door of dwelling,however if this is a secondary entrance [side door] then the answer is no.

And Jeff is correct,hand rail not needed,however if one is installed it should be secure.





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It looks to me like the tread is sloping and not level. They look like the first set of amateur steps my husband did. The kind where you fall forward when you start to go down them because they slope.
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It looks to me like the tread is sloping and not level. They look like the first set of amateur steps my husband did. The kind where you fall forward when you start to go down them because they slope.
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Sloping? Maybe it's the angle of the shot.





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Maybe it is. If I blew it up I could probably tell more.
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Old 11/1/06, 10:18 AM
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From my own past experiance, I would call it out as requireing a proper handrail for any steps with more than 2 risers. The city of Mt. Clemens would not let me close on my first house because I had to pass their city certs.

I had to leave the closing & install a handrail on the steps, (2 6" tall steps & 1 3" tall step) have it inspected and then rush back to finish the closing. I was buying my grandmothers house.



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Old 11/1/06, 10:28 AM
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What standard would you base this recommendation on?

I agree, that if it's in place, it should perform its intended function, and conform to the standard requirements of a railing.
Jeff,

I forget that every state is not like NJ. In NJ, we follow New Jersey's version of the 2000 edition of the Internation Building Code (IBC/2000) and therefore, it's not 4 risers, it's 3 risers.

IMO, in situations like these it never hurts to recommend that a properly installed railing with balusters be installed for safety. Either way, I agree with you that if it's there, it should be done right.

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