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A good issue to kick around here on the message board.
I did a pre-drywall inspection for a client and saw this. I know what i said, but was wondering everyone else's thoughts. Beam support consists of 8 2x6s. In the conduit is low voltage communication wiring I think. You'll see CSST and romex in the same area. Opening for conduit is 1.5 inches.
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Joe
Option 1: The code limits notches in load bearing wall studs to 25% (1.375" in a 2x6). In this case the notch is slightly over the maximum depth. Option 2: Could be considered a load bearing column. I would have to determine if the remaining capacity is acceptable for the applied load. In your position you get to make the call, but I would take option 2. |
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1.5 is too big. 1.25 is ok.
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If you mean 1 1/2" deep, the notching would exceed 25% (1.375") of the width of the stud.
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Is it a notch or a bored hole???
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The code:
IRC R602.6 Drilling and notching–studs. Drilling and notching of studs shall be in accordance with the following: 1. Notching. Any stud in an exterior wall or bearing partition may be cut or notched to a depth not exceeding 25 percent of its width. 2. Drilling . Any stud may be bored or drilled, provided that the diameter of the resulting hole is no more than 60 percent of the stud width, the edge of the hole is no more than 5/8 inch (16 mm) to the edge of the stud, and the hole is not located in the same section as a cut or notch. Studs located in exterior walls or bearing partitions drilled over 40 percent and up to 60 percent shall also be doubled with no more than two successive doubled studs bored. “The things that will destroy America are peace at any price, prosperity at any cost, safety first instead of duty first, the love of soft living, and the get-rich-quick theory of life.” Theodore Roosevelt Joe Funderburk, CMI Alpha & Omega Home Inspections, LLC Inspecting Upstate SC & Charlotte Metro, NC NACHI ID: NACHI05120170 www.aohomeinspection.com |
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If you are doing a Code Inspection as a minimum don't forget.
Preface of IRC. This comprehensive, stand-alone residential code establishes a minimum regulations for one-and two-family dwellings and town-houses using precriptive provisions. THE RIGHT TRAK CIAQP, IAC2 Certified Master Inspector kwoodinspections@hotmail.com www.kwood.inspectorpages.com www.homegauge.com/shgi/THERIGHTTRAKIAQ www.linkedin.com/in/kevinwoodiaq OOVOO account kwoodinspections Cell: 705-971-2096 Ph : 705-946-2676 Last edited by kwood; 12/15/11 at 5:54 PM.. |
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I would agree with Randy on his option 2 and the picture also seem to indicate that there is another bored hole for a romex wire in conjunction to the notching that was done.
Depending on the load and whether or not the multiples were added to compensate for the notching exists, I would refer to the Architect or engineer that designed the loading supports. LEED Green Associates InachiAwardsPortal: Inachi US Member of the Year Award 2009 |
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there had to be a better way to run that cluster flub....
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There is usually always a better way Jim, this one was to convienient in lieu of what we call planning and coordination of the trades.
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Ya think ??....no cure for stupid partner....just no cure...
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Here's a better look at it.
The issue is this: is the stud notched OR bored? If it's a notch, it cannot exceed 25% of the stud depth. The opening clearly exceeds 25% so a code violation exists. If it's a bored/drilled hole, it cannot be within 5/8" of the end of the stud and it clearly is withing 5/8" so a code violation exists. Either way, whether drilled or notched, the opening is not compliant in my opinion. 2006 IRC R602.6 Drilling and notching–studs. Drilling and notching of studs shall be in accordance with the following: 1. Notching. Any stud in an exterior wall or bearing partition may be cut or notched to a depth not exceeding 25 percent of its width. 2. Drilling. Any stud may be bored or drilled, provided that the diameter of the resulting hole is no more than 60 percent of the stud width, the edge of the hole is no more than 5/8 inch (16 mm) to the edge of the stud, and the hole is not located in the same section as a cut or notch. Studs located in exterior walls or bearing partitions drilled over 40 percent and up to 60 percent shall also be doubled with no more than two successive doubled studs bored.
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Joe
What type of load required so many 2x6 studs? |
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Looks like one of those big 2 story living room walls.
I bet the builder has an engineer that will crunch the numbers to say its fine. Its a complicated area since it serves load bearing and stability functions for that wall full of windows. I would recommend obtaining an engineers letter on that. B.A. King Home Inspections, LLC www.BAKingHomeInspections.com Serving Charlotte NC area and Rock Hill SC areas. CMI Certified Master Inspector and Independent License NC2449 and SC1597 704 301-3207 "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought." - Albert Szent-Gyvrgyi, Nobel Prize for Medicine 1937 |
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Like Bruce said, 2 story great room wall full of windows. This is the best picture I have of it. Support in question is at left side of far left window. Part of it supports the header above the lower windows and part supports a header above the 2nd level windows. A lot of wood to replace.
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