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Old 5/30/11, 2:55 PM
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Now you see why I did not want to answer you BOB.
Remember you were a septic on mold. I am not.
Building science mate.
I need that technical terminology to make proper response.
Built, used, and worked with all that is going on in the conversation.
French workforce, I pickup by sight. I used VDB in 1984 errecting my first home.
I had them put it in.
Brian MacNiech reminded me of the term for the ( wind shear bracing channels ) placed in the framing. Will not forget now mate.



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Old 5/30/11, 3:01 PM
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Infiltration of air comes through the rim joist due to stack affect and as Nick points out by the pictures all areas must be sealed with styrofoam or spray on Insulation.The wall will need to be studed and have a stand off to prevent thermal bridging. Closed cell is the best in this application.
Steel studs rust if not done correctly with proper insulation under the track.



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Great learning here.
I see them do it so many ways.
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Old 5/30/11, 3:21 PM
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This is how I did mine years ago and it still makes the most sense to me.

Vapor retarder on the inside of the foundation wall, acoustical caulk sealing the top to wall 6" above exterior grade, also extending down under interior wall assembly and back up onto interior side. Purpose: to keep any moisture coming from the outside from damaging the wall assembly and allowing any minor moisture the ability to evaporate/weep/wick up and out to the exterior.

Vapour retarder on the warm side of the wall assembly to keep interior moisture from condensing inside the wall assembly. Fibreglass batts inside of plastic garbage bags for the rim joist areas.

This method essentialy encases the wood interior wall assembly and even if moisture does enter from the exterior it only ends up on the floor where it will be noticed and without destroying the walls.
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Stick with InterNachi.
Infiltration of air is the biggest problem for creating moisture in the basement. No batt insulation and vapor barrier is able to stop all moisture migration. The stapling of the vapor barrier is not recommended any more and the use of fiberglass insulation is old school. ATD air tight drywall assembly is the way all basements should be done now.
We should learn from our mistakes.



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Quote:
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Some one tell me what is wrong with this picture.
I would like to discus it further.
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Fiberglass Insulation or blanket insulation should not be used in a basement. "Framed stud walls on the basement interior with batt insulation between the studs and a vapor barrier over the studs was used for many years as the building standard but is no longer recommended due to excessive problems with mold, decay and odors." (Yost and Lstiburek, 2002)
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The proper way to insulate basement walls.

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A piece of decking under the floor plate.
That is brilliant. You could have a 1/2 inch layer of water on the floor and it will not event touch the bottom plate. That is why to continue to learn is the focus of all good inspectors.
I bet you we will never see this in the codes.



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Old 5/30/11, 7:09 PM
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Great material as always Marcel.
You just keep taking up all my Hard Drive space fella.
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Per your first post.
I said Condo right?
Now next time I know when I say Robert do not look left you will.

Moisture will always go through the brick.Foundation is bottom half of that wall in case you do not know that.

Now once again tell me what you recommend for the inte
Should there be a airspace of some kind?
rior wall.
Insulation?
Moisture barrier?
If insulation what type? and also if a moisture barrier does it go on the inside of the insulation or the outside?

Batting or spray foam?
Will a chemical sealant help if applied to the brick?(dry loc)?

Should the drywall be any special type?

I said Condo right?
Now next time I know when I say Robert do not look left you will.

BOB if people ask me to look left I learned a long time ago to use my own judgement. ( they are 99% of the time wrong and misleading or being mislead themselves.)
That being said.
From A wise InterNACHI member that was once a Peoria. " you can still be friends and argue a point " words to keep BOB.
Now for last night.
Yellow: shows a wet wall.
Blue: show very poorly trained men at doing a job .
I work the trade and leave streght cuts ALWAYS. I am trained.
So I question the men that are doing the job. BIG TIME.
So I question the hypothesis. Broken Drainage.
I want to see prof in writing from an licensed contractor. Or evaluate the job myself.
Sorry I do this to eat sometimes.
I said Condo right?
No you did not mention CONDO:
Even if you did it has no bearing on the job.
Moisture will always go through the brick:
Varies with type , age, and location and situation.
Foundation is bottom half of that wall in case you do not know that.
No it helps to explain.
Now once again tell me what you recommend for the interior wall.
I can not give a hypothesis or a constructive solution to a project that is being handled as in the Photos, nor without having a full report of the exact findings are to the foundation or the walls indicate problems...
Everything mentioned above tell me there might be other problems going on.
You limit the ability to give proper and successful conclusion to the project.
1 Not explaining the exterior. Limiting that all together.
2 Not seeing a report for the drainage. I take no ones word but a professionals.
3 having not been there to inspect and come to my own conclusions.
4 By seeing the labor for that excavated that hole I am leery of there abilities. to do the job correctly.
Wish I had photos of my jobs doing the exact same work to show you. All lost but for 2000 photos.
I am not going to hypothesizes on such an abstract defect. and question being asked about the wall .
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Old 5/30/11, 11:36 PM
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rior wall.
Insulation?
Moisture barrier?
If insulation what type? and also if a moisture barrier does it go on the inside of the insulation or the outside?

Batting or spray foam?
Will a chemical sealant help if applied to the brick?(dry loc)?

Should the drywall be any special type?

I said Condo right?
Now next time I know when I say Robert do not look left you will.

BOB if people ask me to look left I learned a long time ago to use my own judgement. ( they are 99% of the time wrong and misleading or being mislead themselves.)
That being said.
From A wise InterNACHI member that was once a Peoria. " you can still be friends and argue a point " words to keep BOB.
Now for last night.
Yellow: shows a wet wall.
Blue: show very poorly trained men at doing a job .
I work the trade and leave streght cuts ALWAYS. I am trained.
So I question the men that are doing the job. BIG TIME.
So I question the hypothesis. Broken Drainage.
I want to see prof in writing from an licensed contractor. Or evaluate the job myself.
Sorry I do this to eat sometimes.
I said Condo right?
No you did not mention CONDO:
Even if you did it has no bearing on the job.
Moisture will always go through the brick:
Varies with type , age, and location and situation.
Foundation is bottom half of that wall in case you do not know that.
No it helps to explain.
Now once again tell me what you recommend for the interior wall.
I can not give a hypothesis or a constructive solution to a project that is being handled as in the Photos, nor without having a full report of the exact findings are to the foundation or the walls indicate problems...
Everything mentioned above tell me there might be other problems going on.
You limit the ability to give proper and successful conclusion to the project.
1 Not explaining the exterior. Limiting that all together.
2 Not seeing a report for the drainage. I take no ones word but a professionals.
3 having not been there to inspect and come to my own conclusions.
4 By seeing the labor for that excavated that hole I am leery of there abilities. to do the job correctly.
Wish I had photos of my jobs doing the exact same work to show you. All lost but for 2000 photos.
I am not going to hypothesizes on such an abstract defect. and question being asked about the wall .
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Thanks Robert ,I think we all covered it pretty well.
Condo was mentioned because it means it must be addressed from inside.
The wall on the other side is a underside of a porch with the A/C lines at sidewalk level if you can see them and opening not sealed.

Robert you seem like a good guy but we need to help you with your English.
Use fewer words to make your point may help.Try that .
Less "adjectives" "look up that definition"
Adjectives help paint a picture but stick to basic words for now.
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