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Old 7/16/11, 7:19 PM
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Default I've never seen this...

This is the under side of the garage.
Obvious moisture intrusion, efflorescence and rusted columns.
I am going to recommend a structural engineer evaluate and discuss proper support methods.
Any other observations? Ideas?

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Old 7/16/11, 10:00 PM
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Default Re: I've never seen this...

Okay...

Quote:
This is the under side of the garage.
Do you mean this is the underside of the garage slab?

OR...

This is the garage, that a yahoo converted the attic space above to a master bedroom and bath with a jetted tub without adding any structural support (no permits a given) or a gameroom with pooltable, bar, refer, 72" flatscreen and 10 drunkin buddies???
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Old 7/16/11, 10:04 PM
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Default Re: I've never seen this...

This is the underside of a garage slab.



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Old 7/16/11, 10:15 PM
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Default Re: I've never seen this...

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This is the underside of a garage slab.
With temporary supports scattered about not designed to support such a structure; refer it to a SE and be done with it.



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Old 7/17/11, 9:35 AM
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Default Re: I've never seen this...

Tim

A suspended concrete garage floor slab is a probably one of the most technically difficult designs, from an engineering standpoint, you will find in a residential structure. In my opinion no home inspector regardless of experience or educational background, including engineers like myself, should ever may any comment on these other than referring to a structural engineer for detailed analysis. Even if the owner has a set of sealed engineering drawings DO NOT make any comment on the condition or adequacy of a suspended garage slab. A set of design plans is no guarantee the contractor built the slab according to the design. Minor changes in the steel placement and concrete strength can have a significant impact on the slabs load carrying capacity. In the ideal situation the engineer that designed the slab was also hired to verify the construction, if so the owner should have that documentation. If I sound a little harsh its because this is one item that failure could result in death or serious injury.





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Old 7/17/11, 10:32 AM
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Default Re: I've never seen this...

I agree Randy, I have built structural slabs like this before, and if this one is in need of adjustable columns like we see, there is definitely something wrong with the way it was constructed or designed.
A PE for evaluation should be high priority. This is no laughing matter, someone could get killed.
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