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Old 9/6/08, 6:33 PM
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Installer nailed roof deck to header instead of using joist hangers. My two biggest concerns are that they used nails only for a porch roof that's about 30' long and the quality of the nailing itself.
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Old 9/6/08, 6:38 PM
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Forgot the pic..
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Old 9/6/08, 6:56 PM
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Has the rafter pulled away that amount or is that how it was installed? The nails aren't really doing much are they?

Without seeing a bigger picture, joist hangers at least.



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Old 9/6/08, 7:03 PM
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Erol, I am with Larry on this one that joist hanger would be the minimum that should of been supplied and a bigger picture would help.

It appears that there is a possibility it was built that way too, seeing that the roof decking is not pulled away from the ledger by the same amount.

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How is the ledger board attached?

It appears the wall is faux brick, is that the fact?

Need more info.

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Old 9/6/08, 10:39 PM
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Ledger is bolted to wall and yes Marcel, red faux brick. I do not know if nails are pulling away from the ledger or whether they were installed this way. Not a single joist hanger exists. Suspect nailing is what is supporting porch roof. I've attached the pics that I have including load bearing posts twisted and bending, and a sagging porch that lacks support.
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Old 9/7/08, 8:13 AM
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Erol, that whole mess I see in those pictures is in a dangerous state.

Would recommend immediate action for repairs for the safety of the occupants.

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Old 9/7/08, 8:33 AM
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I would send them a link to Simpson strong ties.

http://www.strongtie.com/products/ca...?source=topnav



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Old 9/7/08, 9:57 AM
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Erol, I would also right up the electrical as I could see a small child reaching out with their hand or perhaps something else and come into contact with the service entry.
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Old 9/7/08, 10:10 AM
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Erol, I would also right up the electrical as I could see a small child reaching out with their hand or perhaps something else and come into contact with the service entry.
I noticed the same thing Peter.

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Old 9/7/08, 10:20 AM
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Erol,
That looks like the rear of the Coldwell-Banker building. I'm glad I passed on that one. Hope you stopped across the street at Uncle Richie's Tavern for a bloody mary after the inspection. They have the best around.
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Old 9/7/08, 10:28 AM
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Ledger is bolted to wall and yes Marcel, red faux brick. I do not know if nails are pulling away from the ledger or whether they were installed this way. Not a single joist hanger exists. Suspect nailing is what is supporting porch roof. I've attached the pics that I have including load bearing posts twisted and bending, and a sagging porch that lacks support.
That decking is a safety hazard in need of immediate repair/replacement. Aside from Erol's observations, look how rotten some members are...dangerous.



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Old 9/7/08, 11:29 AM
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You guys are the best, thank you. I suppose I've been fortunate that I've never had a porch inspection before. Yes Linas, this is the one. Thanks for the referral. Not including the porch I've already found about $80,000 in repairs. It was strange inspecting a real estate office/vintage building. As expected, I would have been treated nicer by a cardboard merchandiser at Walmart than by some of the attendees.

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Old 9/7/08, 11:32 AM
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Think of all the referrals you'll get from them.
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Old 9/7/08, 11:43 AM
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Think of all the referrals you'll get from them.
Agents never call me but I've never had an unhappy client. Funny how that works eh?

Did I mention the temporary lally jacks supporting a floor where most of the floor joists are cracked, wet, ravaged by termites and barely supported in the pockets?
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