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Old 12/22/07, 2:25 PM
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Aren't post tension slabs suppose to be labeled? Is the labeling usually put into the garage slab floor?
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Old 12/22/07, 3:12 PM
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Default Re: Post tension slab labeling

On the garage foundation there is a stamp that says "Post tension slab, do not cut or core". Yes. There are machines that will find the cable and their placement. Residential is rare but is used in Texas. We have them in our jail that I helped construct. I watched it being done.





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Old 12/22/07, 4:51 PM
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Default Re: Post tension slab labeling

Not rare at all in residential, in fact, it's very common.

The warning requirement only applies to residential. It is not required in commercial applications.

In residential, the slab should be stamped. Generally it's done in the garage so that it remains visible. If there is no stamp, there must be a permanent sign posted.



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Old 12/22/07, 7:46 PM
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Not rare at all in residential, in fact, it's very common.

The warning requirement only applies to residential. It is not required in commercial applications.

In residential, the slab should be stamped. Generally it's done in the garage so that it remains visible. If there is no stamp, there must be a permanent sign posted.
Really. I read it was rare. What states?



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Old 12/22/07, 8:34 PM
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Default Re: Post tension slab labeling

It is common here in Arizona. i will attach a few pictures.
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Old 12/22/07, 8:37 PM
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Default Re: Post tension slab labeling

I was placing cables in residential foundations in the '80's. Almost every home built in the last decade or so in CA has a PT slab/foundation.

I think it's pretty popular in TX as well.



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Old 12/22/07, 8:38 PM
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Here is the stamp.
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Old 12/22/07, 8:47 PM
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Aren't post tension slabs suppose to be labeled? Is the labeling usually put into the garage slab floor?
I have yet to find one here in Silver, have you found some in Cruces?



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Old 12/22/07, 8:53 PM
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If the slab is PT and there is no warning mark, it should be called out. Once the sidewalks are poured and ground cover is placed, it can be difficult to determine if cables are present.



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Old 12/22/07, 9:26 PM
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While I am talking to the structure experts let me ask this. What determines where they put the siding on the vertical walls. I watch a lot of homes being built and I can find no rhyme or reason to where the chip board is added and where it isn't. I would like to see a set of plans that the framers use but so far I haven't had the chance.
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Old 12/22/07, 9:33 PM
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Default Re: Post tension slab labeling

Generally, it has to do with the required shear-strength (the design strength) of the wall. Sometimes it's paneling (as you have pictured), and other times it will be steel panels or "strong-walls."
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Old 12/22/07, 9:40 PM
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I haven't seen the steel. Is it common to see some walls with no panels? Here in AZ I have seen the same model, one house facing north and the other facing south with the chip board on different walls. Prevailing winds???
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Old 12/22/07, 9:47 PM
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Possibly. It's all a matter of "design criteria" in your area. Most of CA is in SDC 1 and SDC 2 (Seismic Design Category), so these steel panels are common. AZ's designs are (I'm sure) different from ours.

Where the wall dimensions limit the amount of lumber that can be used to obtain the required strength, these strong walls are the substitute.



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I will try to find pics of the ones at the jail



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Old 12/22/07, 11:17 PM
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Here ya go. Orange County Florida Jail
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