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Old 6/18/09, 8:11 PM
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Default PWF - what type of wood is used?

Can PWFs use the same wood as the kind used in decks, or do they us a wood that is specially treated just for PWFs?
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Pressure treated plywood




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Southern Pine is the preferred species for PWF's.
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Ok already.
What is a PWF?

Preserved Wood Foundation ?
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Southern Pine is the preferred species for PWF's.
Plywood made from Southern Pine? It is the plywood that forms the main barrier against decay, right?




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Ok already.
What is a PWF?

Preserved Wood Foundation ?
Stands for "Powdered Wood Foundation" Bob.

OK, sorry, I'm not an admirer of them.

The industry term invented by the people who manufacture them is "Permanent Wood Foundations".

They might be OK if the contractor adheres strictly to the manufacturer's recommendations, but many don't. When contractors don't, foundations fail. They fail by buckling and decaying.

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I am just surprised they still use them.
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Plywood made from Southern Pine? It is the plywood that forms the main barrier against decay, right?
Are we talking about the same acronym Ken.......Permanent Wood Foundations?.......where SP is the main species used and pretreated?

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Are we talking about the same acronym Ken.......Permanent Wood Foundations?.......where SP is the main species used and pretreated?

lol
Jeff, yep... same thing. CA and AO Hem fir is used for treated lumber.




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Default Re: PWF - what type of wood is used?

They are not uncommon in this neck of the woods, I put one in 20 years ago, and the house is still standing (I guess) My 10:00 inspection today is a PWF, I'll take good pictures.
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Can PWFs use the same wood as the kind used in decks, or do they us a wood that is specially treated just for PWFs?
Typically, the pressure treatment saturation point is increased for ground contact, etc.


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Typically, the pressure treatment saturation point is increased for ground contact, etc.

The term used in lumber yards is G.C. or Ground contact. Most posts are GC rated, but not all. "treated" is now a more generic term in my opinion, at least not specific enough. The term doesnt tell you if it it GC or not.

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Old 6/29/09, 8:33 PM
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Default Re: PWF - what type of wood is used?

I'm due to inspect a wooden home foundation this week. Any tips on what to look for beside detailed moisture testing and bowing.

I read some more and found what I was looking for. Should have read more first

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