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Old 12/14/07, 1:02 PM
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James,
I was just talking about mold spores that are considered toxic. Most molds will not hurt the average person.
Yes, I have seen more people who got hurt by Contractors, Mortgage Lenders and Realtors than mold. At least that can be proved.
My friendly argument with Roy is just that. I will probably not going to get him to understand about mold. Heck, I probably can't even get him to spell mold right.
Great discussion
But it is just a few who have trouble spelling Mould .
The scientific world ( including those in the USA) and all others spell it the English way .
I like these discussions as others can see not every one See's things the same.
A great read is a gentleman in Colorado who often post's here and did on this one .
Love his way of showing how serious Efflorescence is too.
His web site has a lot of information .... Cookie
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Forensic Applications Consulting Technologies, Inc.
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Old 12/14/07, 1:24 PM
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Great discussion
But it is just a few who have trouble spelling Mould .
The scientific world ( including those in the USA) and all others spell it the English way .
I like these discussions as others can see not every one See's things the same.
A great read is a gentleman in Colorado who often post's here and did on this one .
Love his way of showing how serious Efflorescence is too.
His web site has a lot of information .... Cookie
Caoimhín P. Connell
Forensic Industrial Hygienist
Forensic Applications Consulting Technologies, Inc.
www.forensic-applications.com
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Good post Roy.....if all the inspectors and the general public read all the information available by a licensed industrial hygenist such as provided in Mr. Connell's website www.forensic-applications.com

There would be less hyteria in the world and more to the point FACTS about the subject matter...!!!!
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Old 12/14/07, 1:39 PM
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I spell mold the way it was spelled before Industrial Hygienist ever existed. The way it is spelled in the Bible.
I found some things in the past that was just wrong in Mr. Connell's posts. I have asked for his mold certifications, on this message board, for I could better understand where he was coming from. I have not heard from him since. I have met a lot of Industrial Hygienists who claim to know a lot about mold and leading people down the wrong path. Emptying their wallets and making the environmental conditions in their homes worse.
I know I must get on my Industrial Hygienist's, who is certified in mold, nerves because I am constantly asking him why he wants me to do it that way. I think sometimes he just gets too busy and forgets to write down a step. It is the same after I look at his lab report. I give him a call to make sure I am not miss reading the report.
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Old 12/14/07, 1:41 PM
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Dale,
Be careful at where you get your facts from.
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Old 12/14/07, 1:45 PM
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I spell mold the way it was spelled before Industrial Hygienist ever existed. The way it is spelled in the Bible.
I found some things in the past that was just wrong in Mr. Connell's posts. I have asked for his mold certifications, on this message board
His mold certifications?......for Gods sake he is a licensed Industrial Hygienist, he sure all hell didn't go to one of ProLabs 8 hr. your a mold inspector courses.

Simply unreal.....
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Old 12/14/07, 1:48 PM
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Dale,
Be careful at where you get your facts from.
I will listen to Mr. Connell before I ever listen to ANYONE on this message board regarding mold.

But thanks for the warning.......
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Old 12/14/07, 1:56 PM
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I spell mold the way it was spelled before Industrial Hygienist ever existed. The way it is spelled in the Bible.
Since Leviticus was written in Hebrew/Aramaic, I find that difficult to believe.

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I found some things in the past that was just wrong in Mr. Connell's posts.
James, you are way out of your league on this one.
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Old 12/14/07, 1:57 PM
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The typical Industrial Hygienist education on mold is very limited. According to my Industrial Hygienist says it is an 8 hour course. He teaches it at Missouri colleges.
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Old 12/14/07, 2:07 PM
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Now lets have some fun.....

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I spell mold the way it was spelled before Industrial Hygienist ever existed. The way it is spelled in the Bible.
.I am a person who does not believe in the Bible but Please correct me if I am wrong . Is not the Bible a copy of a copy of a copy and been translated many times over the years and most of the information hand me down from She said and he said.I do not think we have much if any of the original writings and if there are some the sure where not written in the English language and Mould is how the english spell it....

I found some things in the past that was just wrong in Mr. Connell's posts.
..I do not say he is perfect and would appreciate seeing his errors...
I have asked for his mold certifications, on this message board, for I could better understand where he was coming from...He is extremly busy but I di think he would never ignore a e-mail... I have not heard from him since. I have met a lot of Industrial Hygienists who claim to know a lot about mold and leading people down the wrong path.
At the bottom I have a post that this is explained very well
Emptying their wallets and making the environmental conditions in their homes worse.
I know I must get on my Industrial Hygienist's, who is certified in mold, nerves because I am constantly asking him why he wants me to do it that way. I think sometimes he just gets too busy and forgets to write down a step. It is the same after I look at his lab report. I give him a call to make sure I am not miss reading the report.
.The Qualifications of Caoimhín P. Connell are extremely high and if I was going to be in a group discussion with him I would like to be on his side .

.....Cookie

Re: There Is No Toxic Mold! (Reply to unEducated Friend)
Posted by Caoimhín P. Connell on 1/04/04
  • Hello Educated Friend:
    I am not sure where you got your information concerning
    industrial hygienists, however, contrary to your misnomer
    moniker, you are greatly in error. Although it is certainly
    true that some IHs may spend their entire time merely
    sampling the air in some specific space, it is equally true
    that some medical doctors spend their entire time reviewing
    insurance claims for insurance companies. However, to then
    conclude that because some medical doctors spend their
    entire time reviewing insurance claims indicates that
    ALL medical doctors so do would be an error of
    reasoning.
    Contrary to your rather odd idea of what/who an industrial
    hygienist is, I know of many IHs who have never
    collected an air sample. I know of IHs who are only
    certified in sound issues; certified exclusively in
    ventilation issues; and IHs with PhD in microbiology.
    Personally, my 17 years as a forensic IH has involved
    providing expert witness testimony and services in everything
    from fire investigations, microbiology, radiation toxicology,
    lasers and a variety of other topics as diverse as sound (I
    performed work for the FBI on the Oklahoma Bombing case),
    ergonomics (you may enjoy reading my web page on carpal
    tunnel syndrome located at
    http://members.aol.com/epidemiotox/CTS/cts.html
    which I have provided a link for you at the bottom of the
    page) and I have an extensive background in radiation
    toxicology (you might even enjoy reading my page on radon
    located at
    http://members.aol.com/piobin/radon.html)
    As far as microbiology goes, I developed the sampling
    protocol for fungal and Bacterial entities that is now being
    adopted across the nation and I am currently an expert
    witness on three microbial cases. You may also be surprised
    to learn that I developed a laboratory fume hood evaluation
    protocol, aspects of which were adopted by ASHRAE in their
    national standard, and that I developed a new method for the
    analysis of lead in whole human blood using graphite furnace
    atomic absorption spectroscopy by applying Zeeman light-
    splitting; (oh, and did I mention that I developed a new
    method of cyanide speciation by ionchromatography while I was
    with the Colorado School of Mines Research Institute?) With regard to your rather uneducated comments on my
    profession, next time you should learn what an IH is before
    you criticize one. So, my friend, perhaps you should follow
    your own advice when you say:



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Old 12/14/07, 2:22 PM
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So where does it say he has any training in mold? It does not appear by some of his statements he has done much work in the mold field. Because some of his statements do not work in the real world. I am going to believe my Industrial Hygienist over him ever time because he is certified and experienced in mold that what he mainly does ever day.
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Old 12/14/07, 2:53 PM
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Caoimihn may be understating the threat of toxic forms of mold. Perhaps it is, indeed, a more serious problem than he has outlined.

Still, James, there are remediators out there whose marketing strategy has much to do with fear to the degree that if my waitress were to get confused and bring me blue cheese instead of ranch on my salad, I would be expected to call men in with white Tyvek suits to remediate my lettuce.

There are extremes on both sides of this issue and something closer to the middle will probably end up being proven to be most true, IMO.



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Old 12/14/07, 2:56 PM
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So where does it say he has any training in mold? It does not appear by some of his statements he has done much work in the mold field. Because some of his statements do not work in the real world. I am going to believe my Industrial Hygienist over him ever time because he is certified and experienced in mold that what he mainly does ever day.
James Reading your posts do you know who they where talking about on the TV station do you have a company like they do.

I wonder did you go to his web site do you know what he does for a living do you know who he is employed by.
I think he has higher qualifications then you might think.
He has been in court more then likely more times then every Home inspector on this BB added all together .
He has never lost a court case regarding Mould .
http://www.forensic-applications.com/

Read some of his reports and there are many .
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Old 12/14/07, 7:01 PM
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No, my company does no remediation work. We just make sure that the remediation work is done correctly. Most of the inspections and testing I do behind remediators does not turn out good for the remediators. They have a hard time understanding to get a clear on their remediation work there most be no visible mold and the considered toxic spore counts must be low (none for Stratybotrys and Chaetomium).
I had a neighbor die of mold (according to the autopsy) and two family members in two different situations get deathly ill because of mold. My mom will be on oxygen for the rest of her life because of it.
What some of Mr. Connelly says is wrong. It is hard for me to believe studies or guidelines by the American Conference of Governmental Industrial Hygienists; New York Department of Health; American Industrial Hygiene Association; Indoor Environmental Standards Organization; Occupational and Environmental Health; Institute of Inspection, Cleaning, and Restoration Certification are wrong. These people are some of the smartest environmental minds out there.
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No, my company does no remediation work. We just make sure that the remediation work is done correctly. Most of the inspections and testing I do behind remediators does not turn out good for the remediators. They have a hard time understanding to get a clear on their remediation work there most be no visible mold and the considered toxic spore counts must be low (none for Stratybotrys and Chaetomium).
I had a neighbor die of mold (according to the autopsy) and two family members in two different situations get deathly ill because of mold. My mom will be on oxygen for the rest of her life because of it.
What some of Mr. Connelly says is wrong. It is hard for me to believe studies or guidelines by the American Conference of Governmental Industrial Hygienists; New York Department of Health; American Industrial Hygiene Association; Indoor Environmental Standards Organization; Occupational and Environmental Health; Institute of Inspection, Cleaning, and Restoration Certification are wrong. These people are some of the smartest environmental minds out there.
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Posting this link to show a some cracks on OUTSIDE of block basement
walls,some cracks are visible on inside, you`ll see this chtt early in vid.

See corner crack at 10 second mark? See someone applied tar on outside
but sure appears they didn`t use hydraulic cement, BIG mistake. It`ll
re-leak. And better backfill w/most-all gravel.

Also notice some block bsmt walls aren`t even parged on the outside,
another mistake.

Scroll to Mold & Basement Problems Video
http://video.google.com/videosearch?...hl=en&start=40


Then, in this Vid....around the 2:20 mark you`ll see them in basement
using fiber straps on inside of block wall. Wall is cracked, has cracks on
the OUTSIDE, soil-pressure and any roots are against the exterior of wall

Exterior cracks are still.....................OPEN! Inside drain tile and
baseboard systems with or without sump pumps do NOT stop/prevent
water entry through wall, through cracks and straps do NOT lessen/
relieve soil pressure or roots.

scroll to Better Choice??? Video
http://video.google.com/videosearch?...=en&sitesearch=

Cost effective solutions? w t f There is one/lone solution to stop/prevent
water from entering cracks on outside of hollow blocks damiitttttt

One REAL solution to relieve/lessen soil pressure or roots against a
basement wall. And i bet many of these companies charge MORE,
sometimes ALOT more when talking people into this chtt versus
exterior waterproofing....where needed!

Another link.......Bsmt Waterproofing School in Practice Ha, HAHAHAAAAAA!
http://video.google.com/videosearch?...-8&sa=N&tab=wv

How is THIS going to stop/prevent water from entering
through a wall, stop/prevent wet spots/dampness on walls, mold `n
efflorescence on walls, relieve-lessen expanding/contracting soil on
outside of walls........it can`t, ever, never.

The FOOL on the HILL, Capitol Hill
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYA8wHC5Ebg

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