So, ya wanna DIVERT surface water and ya think ALL is fine

[john bubber]

Originally Posted by rwand1

You're no match for me you half wit!

Holy Krist, yeah right,sure!

I post a fkkk`g link, tell the truth and every now and then
get a couple of Bullwinkle mfr HI`s who post shtt back, for NO reason.

See, SOME of you dumb azz INSPECTORS who`ve been telling homeowners
for YEARS they can solve leaky basements by raising-sloping the stupid
grade and extending downspouts don`t want to hear that your
recommedations were/are WRONG!

More, many more HI`s will lose their fee`s on this shtt alone and
righly so. Some will not listen, will not read, they think they know
everything about everything and the simple truth is, they don`t!

[rwand1]

Do you talk like you write?

Nobody could possibly no as much as you thats evident.

Btw I noticed on your other post that you tend to ramble and then go completely off topic. Nice work.

[john bubber]

nah, thats just some of you dumb azz HI`s not being able to
comprehend what the fk `im saying

you`ll get yer azz sued if it hasn`t been already, you know
everything, thats whats odd, you come over on this thread and
read my shtt.

see, some of you(not all dammitt) couldn`t hack it when you had
a construction job/company or as a builder etc.

like this CITY Inspector...
http://www.wreg.com/Global/story.asp?s=6594299

"Because he signed an arbitration clause, Stacey cannot sue Chambliss
Builders.But he does plan to sue the city of Horn lake because it
does not require its code inspectors to be licensed or certified.
In fact, the city`s current CHIEF INSPECTOR IS A FORMER
HOMEBUILDER WHOSE BUSINESS LICENSE WAS REVOKED FOR
....SHODDY CONSTRUCTION"

AS i`ve said repeatedly, have tried for many years being NICE,
it doesn`t work....ok mfr. Ha!!!! Some azz ho HI`s,Realtors,builders,
and media mfrs always stating how much they care about this `n that..
how much they care about every homeowner, how much they continiue
to learn.............
BLLLCHTTTT, its a bunch of ****!

[rwand1]

Thanks Mr. Bubba.

I know some contractors are morons, I have had the privilege on behalf of my clients to document and act as witness in court as to their plights at the hands of contractors.

[john bubber]

Originally Posted by rwand1

Thanks Mr. Bubba.

I know some contractors are morons, I have had the privilege on behalf of my clients to document and act as witness in court as to their plights at the hands of contractors.

Yes, quite a few contractors,builders are morons,work sukks
sue em.

On the other hand Ray, I have been to court as expert witness
on behalf of homeowners who`ve been fkkk`d over by contractors
AND by Home Inspectors, and every one i`ve done for FREE.

And ya know Ray, every judge except 1 allowed me to, as you call it..
ramble on, they wanted to hear everything i had to say and they sure
enjoyed the pictures of cracks/other openings which were the reasons
why the basements leaked


same for arbitration hearings, which imo are bllchttt

[rwand1]

Thats nice. I charge for my services. Have taken on home inspectors for clients who were taken advantage of too. Charged for that too. Clients more than happy in all cases.

[john bubber]

Originally Posted by rwand1

Thats nice. I charge for my services. Have taken on home inspectors for clients who were taken advantage of too. Charged for that too. Clients more than happy in all cases.

Good for you Ray, may as well make some cash for your time.

Caledon, what you guys have there, 500 homes `n around 1,500 people?

[Bob Elliott]

John that link you gave out has the guy suggesting that moving the gutters can help in some cases.
I had one this weekend where the gutter was just sitting two feet from a foundation wall on top of a vaulted sidewalk.
There were streaks starting at the top of the sill plate running down the wall from intrusion.
Was I wrong to suggest this may be part of the problem in this case?
It was right at that location.

[rwand1]

http://www.town.caledon.on.ca/townhall/statistics/

http://www.town.caledon.on.ca/townha...age_office.asp

[john bubber]

Originally Posted by relliott

John that link you gave out has the guy suggesting that moving the gutters can help in some cases.
I had one this weekend where the gutter was just sitting two feet from a foundation wall on top of a vaulted sidewalk.
There were streaks starting at the top of the sill plate running down the wall from intrusion.
Was I wrong to suggest this may be part of the problem in this case?
It was right at that location.

--Gonna be a loooong one so don`t get nervous

yes, there are many links that get into extending downspouts
i may agree with part of or most of certain articles,not all.
no harm to agree on most things and not everything.

as for this inspection you did,best to see situation myself,right?
if your saying the downspout had no extension and was dangling
2' or so above ground then, yeah, water coming outta there could
soak/saturate bricks or whatever is right below gutter.

if yer saying the gutter/downspout had a 2' extension on it then
adding more will not solve/repair the problem, problem often being
direct opening(s) such as a crack in wall, loose parging etc

adding another 5-100' won`t seal the opening(s) that allow water in.
thats whats needs to be fixed.

you may divert more water further away but to recommend to
homeowners that adding extensions solves most leaky basements is bs.

have seen thousands of folks who`ve added extensions, raised `n sloped
grade,mudjacked slabs etc etc etc, and didn`t solve their problem.

instead of fkk`g around with trying to divert SURFACE water they should
have located the entryway(s) which allowed water to enter in the
first place.

Too many have tried all this shtt including 1-3' french drains, have seen
builders dig down 2-3' and pour concrete up against the wall, all along
side of house and then add soil and slope it away, all still leaked.

Not saying a there won`t be a few lucky one`s who`ll do this shtt
and not get much-any water on floor for awhile,even years.

I`m saying they should be searching for the opening(s) that actually
allow water/moisture/insects etc in.

How do you know if there isn`t some deterioration on outside of
bsmt wall or a crack on outside of hollow block wall or loose parging.
You see any of those pic`s posted? You see what is ALWAYS on
the outside? See what can happen?

How is it that every job we`ve done over 30 years there has always
been a crack and/or loose parging and/or gaps where service lines enter
and/or openings in mortar joints and around basements windows and
once we`re done w/waterproofing whatever section of wall, HO has
no more problems,no leaks. How does any HI/whoever account for that?

No customer complaints, no leaks THROUGH any part of wall we`ve done
Some will need to follow through and get tuckpointing or basement
window repairs as well.

30 years.

Not just my azz, Capizzo Construction,Stremersch,Downriver Waterproofing
John McEwen up in Canada with E O F and a handful of others ALL
do exterior waterproofing and SEE the same shtt, all w/no problems
As i posted earlier, go ahead and talk w/someone else who`ll tell ya`s
99% same shtt i`m saying, try call John http://www.e-o-f.com/contact.html
i asked him if he could, to post here, tell ya what he has seen

Versus Everdry,Insta Dry,Basement rx etc etc etc who have 10-25++
customer complaints just within the last 36 months, somethings
fkk`d up here!

one more thing, sure HO`s need GUTTERS...need em MORE to keep
water OFF the house, off the bricks,off siding,windows, not saying
they don`t need gutters,never said that.

When we went to Pennsylvania last year to help a HO we saw MANY
homes with NO gutters, said holy shtt whats up people?
Water coming off roofs and soaking the shtt outta bricks etc
Stains,moss,deterioration all over the place

If yer Talkin` downspout extensions, thats THE bs story sir!
Find-locate where/how water is first entering

[john bubber]

Why is it the MEDIA has never,ever asked any of us for some insight
Well, prolly because we won`t pay to advertise on Tv-radio etc
They want that MONEY, all about money, NOT about finding the
BEST,most honest waterproofing contractors to help Homeowners

Capizzo http://detroit.bbb.org/WWWRoot/Repor...0332&firm=1839

Stremersch http://detroit.bbb.org/WWWRoot/Repor...0332&firm=7784

Downriver http://detroit.bbb.org/WWWRoot/Repor...&firm=49003838

Bubba,got Milk? http://detroit.bbb.org/WWWRoot/Repor...&firm=13040049

[Bob Elliott]

What say you .
I say move the darn thing to the other side of that walkway
Dripstains were apparent from the top sill area at that corner inside.
What would you have recommended?
I was not going to suggest digging or is that what you would?
There were also serious tuckpointing issues.
So what do I report?

[john bubber]

Originally Posted by relliott

John that link you gave out has the guy suggesting that moving the gutters can help in some cases.
I had one this weekend where the gutter was just sitting two feet from a foundation wall on top of a vaulted sidewalk.
There were streaks starting at the top of the sill plate running down the wall from intrusion.
Was I wrong to suggest this may be part of the problem in this case?
It was right at that location.

--PIC`s--
Here, for instance this guy assumes/states active basemeny leak
result of missing downspout.
http://picasaweb.google.com/rosewood...03494945965010

Now, the missing downspout could be, part or all of problem IF
water that is coming off the roof is soaking against house-siding and
there are openings in siding.Yep, one can look at the missing downspout
and ASSUME thats the problem.

What i do when potential buyer/homeowner calls is,run a hose,a water test
at ground level on the outside of leaky basement, like in pic above.
This will detrmine whether or not they is a crack/loose parging etc on
exterior of basement wall because if there is, water will begin to enter onto
bsmt floor.

Now the HO/buyer knows for certain any-all possible problems.....
not an assumption of problem.
Here`s one pic of outside same house, yep, other problems too
http://picasaweb.google.com/rosewood...19549533718098

-Next,Smashed downspout etc
http://picasaweb.google.com/natwalke...03899003189442

Think the downspout is the problem? Sure,wouldn`t hurt to get it
together but, how about those openings between stones?
To fix/repair downspout or dig an underground ditch to help divert
more SURFACE water away will help some but won`t repair the openings
where water will actually enter, can deteriorate bricks/blocks etc
And there will be more openings/gaps BELOW grade.

How about this one? We`ve all seen this shtt right?
http://picasaweb.google.com/rosewood...06013455481538

Yep, something needs to be done to keep water OFF the house,off the
blocks and sure, some water could enter, get in basement,cause
some mold etc.Can see what its doing to the blocks & joints above ground

But, this doesn`t mean there isn`t a crack,loose parging etc below
ground on exterior of basement wall. Can`t assume downspout is
only problem. Sometimes, something like this could be only problem
and other times there can be a crack on outside of blocks below
ground, a 2-part problem.If ya zoom-in and see basement window there are some
openings around it, another potential pathway for water to enter,
especially on wind-blown rains.

http://picasaweb.google.com/alohamai...38260576187090

Pouring concrete along building doesn`t seal/waterproof any
possible openings in the blocks BELOW ground level, a crack,
open joints. We`ve done quite a few of these, last was a Tool
Manufact`g bldg, looked just like this.

They had open joints between the blocks below ground, blocks
extended down about 2 1/2'. They also had some tuckpointing
needs above ground, gotta repair both.

But to pour some bs concrete down, well good luck w/dat!
Water will still get underneath on those heavy/long rains and
if there are open joints between blocks or crack(s) then its
gonna leak.

http://picasaweb.google.com/Halfacre...19830308867874


A shtt brick repair job, shtt caulking job around window.
Both can allow water to enter, could wind up on bsmt floor,
cause mold, futher deterioration etc.

Thing is, more often than not, if you follow that step-crack down
to foundation wall, the wall most often is also cracked.

http://picasaweb.google.com/ahoffman...50131447468706

would be best to seal/parge/whatever the bricks where porch is raised
same with driveways `n patios. better protect the bricks and joints that
will be below grade.small/thin openings in joints can allow water in, bricks
can deteriorate because they aren`t protected, shtt ya have everything
opened up before pouring a drive or buidling the porch.

New porch against house.against bricks

[Bob Elliott]

Thanks , of course I am talking poured not block.
Also I can't be doing a water test which may soak the sellers wall during a HI.
So basicly all I can do is suggest a possible fix and recommend Bubber.
Wait till they get that bill....yesh

[Peter Doane]

Originally Posted by john bubber

Holy Krist, yeah right,sure!

I post a fkkk`g link, tell the truth and every now and then
get a couple of Bullwinkle mfr HI`s who post shtt back, for NO reason.

See, SOME of you dumb azz INSPECTORS who`ve been telling homeowners
for YEARS they can solve leaky basements by raising-sloping the stupid
grade and extending downspouts don`t want to hear that your
recommedations were/are WRONG!

More, many more HI`s will lose their fee`s on this shtt alone and
righly so. Some will not listen, will not read, they think they know
everything about everything and the simple truth is, they don`t!

John,.... you're really the Tourettes Guy arnt you??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiEMU...eature=related

00:33 seconds into the vid, thats you on the nachi msg board huh??