something else to chew on

[john bubber]

Ah, i see what the problem is, he is a member of ASHI
http://www.upperaccess.com/experts/deMarne.html

an expert in bsmt waterproofing? no i don`t think so

Felix the Cat and VaVOOM!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtZ_0gANyaY

[john bubber]

apparently some water damage from sump pump installation
by Basement Systems

http://picasaweb.google.com/LMRinker/WaterDamage

[john bubber]

Several problems/openings here
http://picasaweb.google.com/bondbuyer/BasementLeak

Most of water in-these-pics, ya see come in up high on poured wall
at/near the corner.

So the problem,the opening OR openingSSS which allow the water to
first-enter are at THAT-point and/or UP.

Running a hose, a water test if done correctly `n PATIENTLY
would determine each/every opening...starting at ground-level.

Looks like there 'might' be a hairline crack right in corner and possibly
at edge of bsmt window. Again, run water to determine if any water
enters/comes through hairline crack(s). IF if if so, then one would
have to saw-cut an 18-20" wide apron at corner and maybe 6' or so
along house to hand dig `n waterproof. Prolly cost about $850-950.

Could be that the possible crack(s) do NOT go all the way THROUGH
and so, if they don`t then NO need to dig all way down. If water ONLY
enters up high at corner when running water at ground level outside
then they`d just need to saw-cut about 10" or so and repair/waterproof
along blocks/top of poured wall.

Could be, water is only entering FIRST through open mortar joint(s) then
drops into hollow-blocks at/near corner and shows up INSIDE where
we see it.

In 2 of those pics, looks like HO/somebody tried putting something on
bricks, bricks just above concrete. Gotta find and repair ALL
problems/entryways.

Don`t like that wood under bsmt window either

Some Inside Co`s may try and talk HO into an inside drain tile or
baseboard system and place SHEETING up against wall. That will NOT
solve the problem(s), the leaks. Water will STILL enter behind the stupid
sheeting and possibly cause mold. And why would anyone pay $5-17 K
when they can fix the problem/stop the water from entering for about
$850-950. Some of those Inside salespeople are indeed good at one thing,
........Blcchttting homeowners!

And some will screw around and get talked into mudjacking a slab or 2 or,
maybe get talked into injecting that area of wall(can`t inject holow blocks
...good luck w/that). Or they`ll fart around and hope `n pray that putting
tar or concrete where patio/drive meets the house will solve problem.

Instead of playing around, why not find your problems/openings and use the
time and money spent on other blccchttt `n put it towards FIXING the
dang leak.


These people have several problems
http://picasaweb.google.com/louise91...loodedBasement

Pic`s show CRACKS in block wall, thats problem #1 and if one wants to stop
water from entering-through cracks/blcoks then it`ll need to be WATERPOOFED
correctly on Outside.

Some water is entering ABOVE the bsmt wall, can see water stains at top of wall,
and either had or still have a lil water entering through/around bsmt window.

Service line, looks like old gas line....water apparently entering through there as well.

And, IF if if they have a blockage in lateral line and/or floor drain(s) then those will
need to be addressed.

They HAVE a sump pump......sump pumps don`t stop/prevent water from entering
cracks in walls, don`t stop water from entering through open mortar joints or
openings around basement windows etc.

Having a interior drain tile system installed will NOT NOT NOT stop `n prevent
further water from entering these cracks `n other exterior openings. And again,
placing plastic/whatever kind of sheeting against basement walls won`t do CHTT!


http://picasaweb.google.com/eberky/B...mWaterproofing
How is doing THIS inside system going to stop/prevent WATER from FIRST
entering THROUGH cracks/other openings in walls? It SNOT! How will it stop
help/prevent mold,efflorescence......insects entering through cracks.

What about those HO`s who have bsmt wall(s) BOWING IN or, a widening
crack due to soil pressure/roots. THIS won`t do CHTTTTTTT!

What about freakin` RADON, huh? IF if if there are high levels of radon
in soil under basement floor then, these inside systems allow MORE
ENTRYWAYS for radon to enter the dammmmmm basement.

They leave GAPS OPEN along the cold joint/cove.
They drill holes in hollow blocks.
And a sump pump/pit, if there isn`t an air-TIGHT cover which OFTEN is
the case.
And don`t forget, cracks still OPEN on outside of hollow blocks

It`s not waterproofing, its at best waterdiverting,water-management.
They haven`t STOPPED the penetration of water, quit calling it.........
Waterproofing. FALSE CLAIMS

[john bubber]

When you cats are inspecting basements, do ya call this out?

http://picasaweb.google.com/Dave.O.L...15377409843474

Do ya tell HO to raise the grade or extend downspouts or patch crack on inside
or drink a bottle of rum or something else?

Zoom in on dis one
http://picasaweb.google.com/Dave.O.L...14471171743538

[john bubber]

--Dimpled membrane

Some say/think a dimpled membrane will allow no water to enter a crack
in basement wall and it lessens/relieves lateral hydrostatic soil pressure,
i say blcchttt.

Some Pic`s of membrane on new construction--Click photo to
ZOOM in `n see

http://www.concretewatersolutions.co...sort=1&cat=503

Look along top. There are gaps that certainly can allow water behind
membrane. And i`ll bet there are gaps along seam/where stapled,about
6-8' from corner.

Here`s another, click pic to zoom in, use arrow to look left `n right
http://www.concretewatersolutions.co...sort=1&cat=503

Some say it 'bridges' all cracks.....some say it doesn`t matter if
cracks occur because the membrane will protect wall/cracks...i say
blchhhtttt! We`ve been called by builders to, ahem...repair/waterproof
a crack BEHIND this membrane! If you look at 'other' pics and see tar
along top, just because this guy applies a lil tar there in NO way means
others do, most we`ve seen do Not. Apply thick asphalt directly to
the wall please,sheesh.

It doesn`t repair/waterproof an existing crack nor will it repair/waterproof
crack(s) that can occur.

What repairs a crack is...DIRECTLY applying hydraulic cement in/over
a crack `n then applying a thick asphalt.

Most if not all of these membranes on new construction are
stapled on after wall was damproofed, a thin coat of asphalt sprayed or
rolled on isn`t much and will not last.

And so when a crack(s) occurs and water gets behind this membrane, it`ll
enter the basement through-the-crack or other opening in wall, like a
gas line/services lines.

They say the lilttle dimples lessen/relieve hydrostatic soil pressure....
again, bllllchttt.

How? The soil is STILL right up AGAINST the freakin` wall!! It`ll expand
and contract! Still the same amount of WEIGHT/pressure against the wall.

So these dimples somehow magically relieve/lessen the WEIGHT of
the soil??? Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat???

Are they somehow trying to tell us that the membrane will stop-prevent
basement walls from bowing in?

Dimpled membrane huh? Chtt, hey i gotta dimpled KNOB, i guess it relieves
hydrostatic snapper pressure, right?

George, American bllchttt
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNv-o...eature=related


George Carlin on Olberman`s Countdown
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UVXj8F9Fmk


Geoooooooooooorge
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KReZ...eature=related


How to create Angry Americans
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ogfzq...eature=related

[john bubber]

Let me ask ya, does there appear to be ANY need for any carbon straps,
wall anchors and the like?

http://www.concretewatersolutions.co...cat=500&page=3

[john bubber]

Dimpled membrane huh

DUMB AZZ

-Holmes episode
http://www.holmesonhomes.com/episode...?sid=11&eid=56

If you click pic#3, you`ll see another LOSER contractor that placed
a dimpled membrane against bsmt wall, didn`t WATERPROOF the
wall...... dumb azz! And of course backfilled w/same chtt soil.

Then this chtt, just keep repeating the same old myths.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/16/re...=1&oref=slogin

former home inspector and host of radio hm improvement show says...
"The reasons basements leak is almost always because water saturates
the perimeter........and the reason water saturates the perimeter is
almost always because of improper drainage"

B`chttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt.
If you wanna know/see why basements leak then take the TIME
and LEARN first hand, come see for yourself.

So, its ok to sell a house and tell/disclose to buyer that you solved
a leak(s), solved/repaired crack/other openings by raising grade huh?
Hold em responsible for blccht recommendation, dumb azz.

In the article,Everdry in NY chirps in `n says to dig a lil 18" deep trench
tar that top 18" of wall and try `n divert water away, HaHAAA!

Says it costs from a few thousand to tens of thousands.....for a stupid
18" deep trench? Huh??????

Lets see, business `n file date opened 2004 and 20 customer complaints
already......experts huh?
http://search.buffalo.bbb.org/codbrep.html?ID=175939612

http://search.buffalo.bbb.org/codbrep.html?ID=32036

Way to do yer homework NY Times


Shoulda gone........ to FReeeeeee Credit Report .com YEEHAW
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWnUm...eature=related

[john bubber]

here ya go, a Special offer for WDIV viewers- receive a free basement
and foundation inspection from a local, ahem, expert.

http://www.clickondetroit.com/locale...16/detail.html

they are waiting for your calls

P Floyd/Sheep....you better watch out! There may be dogs about
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djfbTCZ5HZg

[john bubber]

new home leak
http://picasaweb.google.com/chunyuma...61288005646530


http://picasaweb.google.com/chunyuma/ChaparalHomeIssues


looks like, builder/whoever installed an INSIDE System and put SHTT up
against inside wall. this is NOT stop water from apparently entering
through crack AND around the window.

'IF' only problem/leak is in that one-area,around-under window then,
seal/waterproof/whatever around-under the WINDOW AND,
Waterproof the stupid crack on Outside, not the entire wall dang it,
the vertical crack.

sure looks like the water is entering THROUGH opening(SSSSS) around
stupid window, plus the crack.

Wonder if there are MORE cracks behind stupid sheeting, prolly so.

If crack(s),window, rod hole(s) etc aren`t waterproofed/repaired
and instead, you install an inside system w/sump and place this
sheeting/whatever against inside wall, water is STILL gonna enter
through crack/rod holes etc so, don`t they think there`s an
increased risk of MOLD growing BEHIND this crap?

Insects...centipedes/termites/whatever can still enter THROUGH
these openings, and what about possibility of radon entering
through unrepaired openings huh?

Ya think raising the stupid grade and extending downspout extensions
will solve leaks...huh? Krist sake!

Can`t tell if they applied thick asphalt DIRECTLY onto wall(s)....
thats what is BEST. Not just placing membrane against walls.

Get TIRED of hearing some yap about indoor air quality-IAQ and then
same people are OK w/installing an inside system in basement.

How is have open water,high humidity level, increased risk of mold,
mildew, radon in basement good for indoor air quality....huh?
Please explain this CRAP.

--pics...different home, we MOST-often see this SHTT......ZOOM in
http://picasaweb.google.com/GeneFale...42413230828850

Yeah, big deal. They damproofed rod holes `n maybe put a cork
inside....lotsa luck.

[john bubber]

Builders fail tests, get licenses
http://www.dnj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/art...00317/1002/rss

[john bubber]

lets see, beyond expanding/contracting soil `n roots which can
weaken walls & mortar joints, water and salts can too.

ummm, do those who mostly/only install Inside Drain Tile Systems
stop the penetration of water/salts through a wall, through bricks? Huh?

will an inside system relieve ANY soil pressure off a wall? How about roots?

How about this homeowner, its ok to allow FURTHER water penetration
through the wall,joints huh?
http://picasaweb.google.com/adam.hin...81931608506386

And lets get beyond this SHTTT where some say 'Inside systems are
alot less costly, won`t ruin the landscaping' and so on.

Don`t take a bush out, nah, don`t ruin the stupid bush and go ahead
and let water come through the wall. Install an inside system
that SHOULD keep water off most of basement FLOOR, at least where
its installed.

http://www.marylandwaterproofing.com/faq.html

Q) Is it necessary to excavate the outside foundation of my home?
A) We STRONGLY recommend AGAINST it.......etc, puke-fart.
...it won`t do this-that

They apparently offer RADON REDUCTION, thats nice.
Umm, since they don`t waterproof cracks/openings on exterior then,
radon can enter through and into hollow block walls and when they
install an inside system they will DRILL HOLES in bottom courses
of BLOCKS, yes they do.Radon can enter through tiny pores
in block walls

So how is this reducing radon entry through a wall huh?

Sometimes w/block walls and almost always w/poured walls, when they
install the darling inside system, they will leave a GAP/space along
the cold joint,cove. Ya think some-radon could enter UP through
these gaps? Could centipedes enter UP through these gaps,HUH?

Back to the FAQ`s
Q) My basement doesn`t leak, but the walls are always damp,why?
A) ..........left unattended,the deterioration will continue and progress
eventually leading to structural damage...

Hey DUMB AZZ, DRILLING holes on inside isn`t stopping water
from entering INTO the Blocks! Drilling holes doesn`t eliminate
water INSIDE the hollow blocks! Doesn`t eliminate damp/wet spots
on walls cuz, WATER is STILL ENTERING!!!! Jesus Kristmas!!!!!!!!!!!
Where`s yer brain???

Inconsistent,misleading,misinformation/claims.

Hey, i have a question fer them, if my sack itches, should i scratch it
on the outside or do they have something for inside...huh? wtf

http://www.skylineroofingandrestorat...m/services.htm
'Once the mortar joint starts to crack, it creates a void that will let
water penetrate into the crack causing the mortar to fall away and
weaken the structure of the wall. Once this process starts, large areas
of your wall become weak and structural problems begin to occur in
the wall and building itself'

Goes for bricks and blocks, Block walls!

Its NOT OK to allow water to enter through open mortar joints,bricks.
It can cause more problems.

But somehow its OK to install inside systems and allow water to keep
entering through the wall?

-Will french drain solve a flooding problem?
http://www.nj.com/homegarden/index.s...ve_a_floo.html

They already have sump pump with french drain...inside system.
Hey....TRY try try SNAKING through the TILE that empties into the PIT...try.
If ya have a storm trap cleanout, snake that mfr too!
BOTH MUST be snaked correctly, not half azz`d

Combat
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0qQGS4fXSY

Hawaii Five O
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=507vsWgvPzU

Flipper
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7t_eFLcEOY

Dark Shadows
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDj8o...eature=related

Daniel Boone
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pw7-A...eature=related

[john bubber]

Got Milk?


http://www.contractors.com/h/contrac...tor_id=3249863


Helical piers and the like does nothing to relieve/lessen exanding `n
contracting soil pressure `n roots which can cause cracks in basement
walls,leaks or wall to bow inward.

Bricks atop-near a basement wall that is cracked, can begin to crack,
especially if the crack in the basement wall widens or wall bows in.

Piers don`t remove a porch footing or concrete-slabs that could also
cause a basement wall to crack, leak or bow in.

Cracks in bricks are more often than not are the result of the widening
of a crack in basement wall or a crack that may suddenly occur in
the bsmt wall. And those porch footings and drive/patio slabs could
also lean/push against a wall, cause a crack/leak and bricks to crack-
shift

And those cracks on the outside of hollow block walls need to be
waterproofed....outside. Some may not see any cracks on the inside
of basement walls or may only see small/hairline cracks.

Looking/inspecting the inside of a block wall does not define all
cracks that are on the outside or other problems/openings in a
block wall such as loose parging, openings around service lines etc.

http://www.tobeylaw.com/cases.html

http://consumerist.com/tag/olshan-fo...epair-company/


Legs/ZZ Top
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNvOPN1LoQ4

[john bubber]

yeah yeah, check the sump but let`s not just zero in on a sump pump
as the only or most likely cause of wet basements

Video, see the drain tile that empties into pit, huh? SNAKE it.
http://abclocal.go.com/wjrt/media?id=5869212

Sometimes there is a blockage in tile(s) under floor and this possible
blockage can cause water, lots of water sometimes, to back up `n
accumulate under a floor, can rise up through crack(s) and possibly
up-through the cold joint,any gaps along wall/floor.So snake the tiles,
can`t be done half azz`d.

Cracks-other outside direct openings and THIS possible blockage
under floor are most peoples problems, some will have a back up in
lateral line out to street `n snaking storm trap clean out should solve that.


http://www.newsday.com/news/local/tr...,7806272.story
-Getting to source of basement leak???????????
...'if you have low spots, fill them' ??? haHAA!!!!
...downspouts,splash guards etc etc etc......snooooooooooze

[john bubber]

Tons of rain,right after thaw,have water on your basement floor today?
Got Milk?

http://mkasmtp1.stlmsd.com/MSD/Outre...ement_bkup.pdf

For the lucky ones, the problem will be a back-up...try snaking storm trap
and/or if ya have a sump pit, try snaking the tile that empties into the pit

Whatever ya do, don`t get all panicky and hire a company to install an
Inside system right away...define/diagnose/locate the problem(s).
You hire someone to install an inside system right away,imo, your
an imbecil

Tuckpointing this from ground level up will most likely not be enough,
yeah it needs it but ya gotta seal/waterproof/repair all openings BELOW
grade too
http://picasaweb.google.com/StevenDF...06259040436498


http://www.thehj.com/main.asp?Sectio...23&TM=36160.64

.....'another problem with moisture seeping through basement walls is investigated.It was reported that mold and worms have taken advantage
of the moisture'

Well, the worms will come in handy fer fishin`....got milk? Got worms?
Fishy fishy in the brook, watch-out for the Inside Crooks

The Incredible Mr.Limpet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdK3z3Uqiws

[john bubber]

How does any of this shtt stop/prevent water entry THROUGH the
g damn walls......HUH? Kiss my azz

NONE of THIS will help stop/prevent a block walls from deteriorating,
won`t lessen/relieve soil pressure for krist sake and so on

http://www.bobvila.com/Showrooms/Bas...ms/video7.html

Is he saying mold can`t grow on the walls behind their vapor barrier,HUH?
Blllllllllllllllllllccccccccccccchhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt
Blllllllllllllllllllccccccccccccchhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt

Say...'thought of everything'......haaaaaaa! Hardly.

Vapor barrier HIDES what can occur to a wall, crack widening,wall bowing
in,mold,insects entering etc, gimmie a break

Plastic sub floor? lolol Okie dokie, whatever you people want.
http://www.bobvila.com/Showrooms/Bas...ms/video6.html

an attempt to hide water/damp areas of floor from a homeowner