something else to chew on

[john bubber]

'Street Creep' eh? Are ya sure? Just asking.
http://www.wlwt.com/news/18037181/detail.html

http://nky.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs....0200311&Ref=AR

Cracks can occur from a several things, maybe he has a garage-drive-patio slab that has settled/moved a tad and is leaning against wall (not from supposed street creep),maybe footing cracked,maybe from lateral soil pressure etc etc etc.

How about this crack? Not from street creep.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/17/ny...se&oref=slogin


http://www.lrb.usace.army.mil/Amhers...os/photos.html
-lateral pressure causing typical 45 degree stair-step crack in block basement wall
-lateral pressure causing vertical mid-span crack in basement wall
-lateral pressure causing top of basement wall to bow inward 9 inches
(pilasters failed to brace wall)

Have done quite a few jobs at end of cul-de-sacs, EACH one/cracks in wall were caused by 'other' pressures/weights, not from so called street creep. Some HO`s were told to only replace their driveway or certain slabs and have wider joints/gaps between slabs If ya have a basement wall that is cracked/pushed in a bit then why leave the soil,possible roots,concrete or maybe a footing against the outside of the wall, wall has already LOST x-amount of its lateral strength,lateral resistance.Gotta try and help the weakened wall,relieve/lessen exterior pressure that could certainly cause further damage.

Good luck try trying epoxy/urethane injections here,hope ya pray alot
http://photosmart.hpphoto.com/FilmSt...5ca0be7&SKU=HP

Expansive soils cause alot of problems
http://geosurvey.state.co.us/Default.aspx?tabid=392
Each year,shrinkage and swelling inflict at least $2.3 billion in damages to houses,buildings,roads and pipelines--more than twice the damage from floods,hurricanes,tornadoes and eathquakes......

How about this story,sold house w/cracks,bowed wall,mold
http://www.thestar.com/living/article/230201
Looks like wall bowed in around 3" or so, some cracks in wall about 1".
Very very likely wall has been like this for awhile,didn`t just occur.
Yeah,some movement...widening could have recently occurred if there was long rain/downpour or nearby construction etc etc etc.

Paneling against wall, buyer moves in smells a terd in basement,takes down some paneling and finds mold,mildew on wall,cracks in wall, eventaully goes to court.

Don`t see any point made from engineer about WATERPROOFING wall and backfilling w/gravel,sand......just says... 'excavate around entire house and install weeping tile system connected to interior sump pump. Sheesh k man, sure hope this wasn`t the full-recommendation!

Looks like sellers said there wer not aware of this,that or anything.
Yeah maybe, its possible they weren`t aware of cracks in wall and possibly bowed wall.
On the other hand,maybe they did know,maybe they put the paneling up.Some do.
Bet basement did leak,prolly several times at least,just my 2 cents. With cracks the size of those? pffft. They never sniffed anything/mold as buyer did upon moving in?

In this case judge believed sellers. lolol Shtt, since the sellers had their bedroom in basement,imo they sure as shtt knew/saw water on floor,in basement and possibly even heard a lil movement of wall at some point. Of course their gonna say they knew of no problems, their azz/money is on the line.Sometimes the law sukks.

Bowed wall, 3" or so was visible outside and most likely, so too were the TOPS of at least some of the vertical cracks on outside. Visible if you take time to LOOK,as in picture 14 here. About 12" from corner, the TOP of a vertical crack
http://www2.snapfish.com/thumbnailsh...6/t_=122238283
Also pic 23,visible vertical crack...outside. These cracks say 'Warning Warning Will Robinson!'
Tells ya there is at-least one crack,possibly others on the outside,they should be waterproofed to prevent water,insects from entering and prevent possible mold,mildew,efflorescence on inside of basement wall. Raising and sloping the grade,extending downspout 500' away doesn`t repair the crack,the flaw/defect now does it. The cracks are open, just like if ya had a vertical crack in bricks and joints above ground,what ya gonna do....place/attach a tarp err something against the house/bricks to try and divert water away from the problem/flaw? Or tuckpoint the dumb crack/joints?


Can`t find vid fer this, was a goodie last night....got milk?
If you wish, pick up transcript about 1/2 way down.......
'$800 billion bailout,three of the best economic minds in the country,David Johnston,Prof Peter Morici and Prof Susan Wachter
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...25/ldt.01.html

[john bubber]

WHAT....are you talking about Mr inspector?
http://www.accu-spec-inspections.com/defects2.html
called `em many moons ago, they claim this is not on website and that they do not recommend any inside system co`s. Yeah right.

6.Basement seepage, HE says....
...."seepage that occurs between the wall and floor usually means that the drain tile is not functioning properly and corrective measures may be needed. This type of waterproofing can be done from inside or outside and can be very costly"

First, seepage that occurs between wall `n floor throughout 30 freakin years of eyeballing many dang homes is most often from exterior cracks and other openings in basement wall and/or above basement wall,got that?

It is possible for water/seepage to accumulate and then back.....UP, rise UP from under the floor. If and when this occurs,it usually happens when flooding occurs and will either be the city`s problem or homeowner will need to first try and snake storm trap to free potential blockage or, if they have a sump pump `n pit,they may need to drill some holes in side`s of pit-wall, just under however thick/thin basement floor is,just under floor level.Yeah, may be the sump pump too and couple other things. Do this shtt FIRST.

Next Mr Accu and some others, if the exterior drain tiles were clogged/broken then how the crap will any inside system solve this? Can`t replace exterior tiles from inside a basement. Its SNOT why water is entering through cracks,loose-cracked parging,openings around basement windows,open mortar joints and so on. Just making the point, as too many SEEM to think that IF the exterior drain tiles were fc`d up, how could installing ANY inside system remove/replace the dumb azz exterior tiles or the T-tile/bleeder. Its impossible on this-planet. Maybe on Mars,Venus its possible but NOT here.

And according to YOUR reference library under... 'Interior Basement Waterproofing', who YOU have listed, who are YOU recommending people call? Tell ya who, 4 inside co`s. There are no exterior contractors listed, no Capizzo,Stremmy,Downriver etc etc. All who have zero complaints,who don`t screw people. Seems if ya really did yer homework and/or gave a shtt it`d hardly hurt to list the REAL water-PROOFING co`s,not water-diverting crap. See ya also list everyone`s good pal Haege.
http://www.accu-spec-inspections.com/links2.html

Back to the FALSE CLAIM and MYTH that says, 'seepage that occurs between wall `n floor USUALLY means the drain tile is not functioning...'
That`s a CROCK of shtt.....of extra large proportions. Hey um, how can YOU make that claim? Please explain in full, substantiate the claim,PROVE it!

No man, not saying at all he`s a bad guy,bad HI......but come fc`g on. He dunno what he needs to know before recommending waterdiverting co`s. Sooner or later ya may find yourself getting sued or at least lose yer inspection fee making false claims,certain recommendations etc. Yeah right whatever.

We have pictures too . Pics that PROVE/SHOW over `n over, to thousands of homeowners that the water they got/saw at,along wall-floor joint was almost ALWAYS from shtt like in following pics...
http://www2.snapfish.com/thumbnailsh...6/t_=122238283
Pic 20 is for our inside owner/salespeople friends

'Don`t Let Your Dream Become a Nightmare'. Yeah, don`t.
http://www.accu-spec-inspections.com/cost.html
'Exterior'........hmm, no appox cost for exterior waterproofing but....
'Interior' basement water diverting........they don`t omit the inside blcchtt.

http://www.accu-spec-inspections.com/object.html
says the evaluation report will give you a better understanding of the present-condition of the major components in the home, they`ll check a,b,c and the foundation,basement...all structural components'. Not if there is paneling-drywall or some inside system vinyl blchtt against the inside basement/foundation walls, nope,so sorry.
You will not be able to inform any potential buyer of the 'present condition' of the basement walls....NOPE.


Selma Alabamie err.....Hayek. Got milk?
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1058/...7315d16214.jpg

Call if ya have a leak Selma,anytime
http://losestadoslatinos.com/wp-cont...elma-hayek.jpg

Stevie Dub/Isn`t She Lovely
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2WzocbSd2w

[john bubber]

E*Trade/Hey girl, can I hit you back
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UG4jlJyxRUA


Basement Pic`s
http://picasaweb.google.com/sheltowe...11801702945906
You`ll need more than the moisture barrier to keep all water/moisture OUT

http://picasaweb.google.com/sheltowe...11696812001202
Circuit box,just below and above grade problem/openings
The inside knotheads will redirect that water fer ya if you like, yep.
Won`t stop-prevent water but they`ll certainly 'manage' it and will cover the wall so ya don`t see water running down wall or hitting circuit box


http://picasaweb.google.com/ewhiteh1...onClaim1085213

http://picasaweb.google.com/ewhiteh1...59717328037202
Gonna need to determine,locate how-where the water first entered.
Often,not always, there will be crack(s),loose-cracked parging on the outside of block walls and water will indeed enter the hollow blocks through shtt like that and the homeowner will often only see water at,along the wall-floor joint,the cold joint,the cove.

http://picasaweb.google.com/john.sus...90039252528802
Whatever ya have on that wall below window is not going to stop water from entering through that vertical crack in wall under window.

http://picasaweb.google.com/gregg.be...51688323289058
lol, no, not a good thing.

http://picasaweb.google.com/gregg.be...lkDisasterDay2
Hope those dummies didn`t lay concrete THINKING it was gonna keep water out of the basement. Loooosers.


E*Trade/Too young to invest
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbkjE...eature=related

Survivor/High on You
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1qYa7nsqIc

Dion/Abraham,Martin and John
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dHvYB5JdSs

[john bubber]

Homeowners File Radon Lawsuit
http://www.wvrecord.com/news/215763-...-radon-lawsuit

Apparently Jefferson County is in a high radon area.

A radon specialist discovered a pipe labeled "radon" in basement was really for sewage.

"We determined they tried to fool the building inspector.....we inspected 45 homes and none of them meet building codes. The builder either put in fake systems or they installed them incorrectly"

Lets see, since 2004 Mr builder apparently has at least 19 customer complaints http://www.dc.bbb.org/report.html?na...compid=1041013



More Than Just Scratching the Surface
http://cooperator.com/articles/1837/...ace/Page1.html

Those who tell ya it`s a-ok to allow water to continue to enter,like these INSIDE nitwit water-management Co`s, are incompetent and full of chtt.

'Say you`ve been putting off exterior maintenance.If these items aren`t fixed,the deterioration will continue--water gets inside the facade and behind the masonry,or the steel rusts and expands,and pushes the masonry out'

'Many of the newer buildings aren`t being built properly with this waterproofing membrane.....the craftmanship of the buildings from the 1960s and 1970s was better,but today it`s about the bottom line'

Whether its cracks,openings etc ABOVE ground or below on the outside of basement walls, it all needs to be protected/waterproofed/maintained.


Here a young lady bought house in Eastpointe MI, got screwed.
Some imbecile didn`t determine/diagnose/identify the REAL problems as to WHY the drive-side wall is bowing in and WHY-WHERE water is first entering. Pouring a new driveway and pitching it away and painting the basement walls has NOT fixed the REAL problems here,ya azz ho! Yep, nobody cares unless it happens to them.
http://www2.snapfish.com/thumbnailsh...6/t_=122238283

2) Drive-side wall bowed in. Its bowed in due to 1 or more of following, lateral soil pressure,roots,weight of concrete. Further movement/bowing/cracks widening is LIKELY because the causes weren`t identified and removed.Shtt, further-future underground vibrations alone may cause MORE movement.Futher water passing through the wall, through the cracks and MORTAR JOINTS between the blocks can cause the wall to weaken. You see what happens to bricks on chimney/above ground when water/weather/wind/time is allowed to enter cracks and joints? Bricks-joints deteriorate,they weaken,get wider. How could it possibly be OK to allow water,lateral soil pressure etc to further weaken a wall, just install an inside drain tile/baseboard system?
Are you CRAZY?

There are NUMEROUS CRACKS on the OUTSIDE of the basement walls and so, PAINTING the inside w/Drylok cannot,will not stop-prevent more water/rain from entering these exterior cracks AND other openings....dumb azz.

Neither will pouring concrete against wall(s) outside, this shtt doesn`t repair the exterior cracks and other openings either and, may CAUSE more movement where its been poured against/near a wall because of it`s WEIGHT!!

11-17 Did the PAINT or new concrete fix anything? lolol Look at the WALLS please. Nope! It NEVER does. Does raising the dumb GRADE or extending downspouts or mudjacking slabs repair/waterproof the exterior cracks,the existing flaws-defects? Will any of this remove/relieve exterior soil pressure,roots,weight of concrete,footing? Only in your dreams!

This lady in Detroit got blccchhhttt`d by B Dry, was told all she needed was an inside system. Well kids, that is NOT what she really needed. Years ago 2 or 3 of her basement walls were bowing in, she got water at-along the wall-floor joint. They told her an inside system would relieve pressure. Yeah, pressure inside their brains!
The REASON the walls were bowing in,cracked,leaked was (still is) due to exterior SOIL pressure and roots etc that have been pushing against the walls. Gotta go OUTSIDE to remove,relieve the pressures. http://www2.snapfish.com/thumbnailsh...6/t_=122238283

Her walls are still moving inward,she has higher radon level in basement..... cracks have widened because shtt-fer-brains Co didn`t disclose to her (or didn`t know/incompetent) this is what can happen,in time,sometimes months and sometimes years if one doesn`t remove/relieve the cause(s). They talked her into the one thing they do, inside systems.

She didn`t have the money to get ALL the work/waterproofing she really needs...in part because.....the INSIDE watermanagement Co has THOUSANDS of DOLLARS that could have, should have been spent on exterior waterproofing you incompetent,cheatin sob`s.
Lifetime Guarantee? Shtt!!!

Take a good long look at Pic`s 11-19
Let`s say the basement is finished,paneling-drywall
Homeowner gets water along WALL-FLOOR joint, the cold joint.
Are some going to continue to recommend to homeowners to raise and slope the grade or longer downspouts or mudjack slabs/pour new slabs or install an inside drain tile/baseboard system with a sump pump?

And for seller/buyer leaky basements,foundation movement-defects etc court cases, where might some/alot of lawyers err judge`s seek information? Online? lol

If so, what are they VERY likely to find,read and believe in part or in full?
Inside System gibberish? False claims,lies,misinformation? Or some Realtor`s thoughts on supposed causes/solutions? This isn`t justice, it`s blcchtt!

David Gilmour/A Great Day for Freedom,live in Gdansk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uuRvFG2r60

[john bubber]

Homeowners BEWARE of any HI ORG or Hm Improvement radio talk show host who recommends INSIDE SYSTEM Co`s! Dang right.

Home inspector Org hand in hand,butt to butt w/Inside Water-diverting Co. So....this Org and umm, maybe several other HI Org`s RECOMMEND INSIDE Systems? Really? lolol Yeah, its your org do what you like but maybe ya shouldn`t DIRECT people to those who`ll blccchtt them,misinform them,have numerous FALSE CLAIMS on this subject.
Any homeowner,buyer-seller who has been directed to Inside System Co`s BE-freaking-WARE!

Just wondering......is MONEY being exchanged in these instances,HUH?
http://www.nahi.org/public/department76.cfm

http://nahigeorgia.org/meetingsandev...tarchives.html
Guest speakers,Apr-June `06. Yeah wonderful,learn everything you can about Inside Systems. Is this ALL HI`s need to KNOW about basement waterproofing,foundation repairs? Think you`ve been competently informed on everything from guest speakers,huh? Do guest speakers get PAID? And maybe they do it for nothing as they`ll continue their onslaught on the few inside things/systems THEY think people/HI`s outta know which fits their agenda of course.

http://www.aquaguard.net/videos.php?...uct-BrightWall
They claim, 'Bright Wall can PERMANENTLY fix damp-discolored basement walls'. NONSENSE, false claim! Placing/attaching Bright Wall against an interior basement wall CANNOT, does SNOT do anything to stop/prevent/remove damp,wet,discolored basement wall(s). How many NAHI members believe this crap and pass it on to homeowners?
What it does do is.....HIDE/CONCEAL the damp-wet-discolored wall ya moron! Conceals the true condition of the wall. Ever think WHY is the wall discolored,damp? J Krsit! Early on in video, it shows poured wall w/leaky rod holes and some water that gets in through/around the basement window! This doesn`t need any stupid vinyl wall covering!!!

http://www.aquaguard.net/videos.php?...oduct-GripTite
Right from the start, video/company says......'settling', then shows at :13 mark a step crack in block wall. This doesn`t mean they/all others need Grip Tite! Doesn`t mean the house is always settling!

Do they even waterproof these exterior cracks, do they remove the soil etc which can CAUSE these cracks, HUH? Or do they just sell/install Grip Tite and an Inside Waterguard system.

http://www.lrb.usace.army.mil/missio...ex.html#Photos
LATERAL SOIL pressure can CAUSE step,vertical,horizontal cracks ya nimrods. And you wanna install Grip Tite and an inside system?
BIG DIFF between settling `n lateral pressure(s) eh?
And so, BIG DIFF for the correct solution.

Here ya go guest speakers, you/yer salespeople would have told and sold this lady Grip Tite and an inside system. You`d have told her the footing is cracked/dropped,house is settling and thats why the bricks have step crack `n you have been wrong and she be out ALOT more money and STILL have soil pressure,roots against wall AND,the exterior cracks would still be wide open. Thats some inept shtt man. Inept=haplessly incompetent.
http://www2.snapfish.com/thumbnailsh...6/t_=122238283

Here`s an 'inside system' ORG, nice lil hideout for quite a few.
'Cy', who answers the supposed-question is apparently from Basement Systems, click Cy`s name, then click profile and you`ll see.
http://www.nawsrc.org/forum/showthread.php?t=556

Should show most, how much Cy and other inside goofballs have upstairs on this subject
He yaps a lil crap then right into the supposed remedy,guess what it is? Duh.

He states, an internal perimeter drainage system 'works' as an external french drain would: relieving hydrostatic pressure against the wall!! Told ya, not much on top shelf!
And supposedly, which company does he own/work for? Oh......the one NAHI recommends.

Dude, how can ya be so.....inept?
Installing an inside system does not remove the soil or anything else on the outside of a basement wall,the soil, the water-in-the-soil is still pushing against the wall. Hello? You,your buddies do not relieve exterior lateral soil pressure,exterior weight,exterior hydrostatic pressure or anything by simply installing plastic/vinyl crap on the inside of a basement er drilling holes in blocks! Who blcchtt`d you about this? The owner? lolol Yeah.

Another POINT mister is, when someone supposedly just has 'frequent damp walls' w/some mold in two areas, this doesn`t tell you/anyone what the problem(s) is. Maybe the dampness/mold is from some interior problem like condensation,humidity. Sure, maybe its from cracks,loose-cracked parging on the outside of BLOCK walls and/or, maybe its from water-moisture that FIRST gets in/enters through ABOVE GROUND openings ABOVE the basement wall in these two areas. YOU people never bring these real possibilities up, nope. Just sell that dumb az inside system w/sump pump.

This kind of CRAP goes on every damn day,in many states, people getting bs`d,lied to,cheated out of many thousands of dollars because many of these salespeople are either INEPT and/or FRAUDS. Just because someone installed an inside system does not at all mean it was needed,shttt,rarely is it. Just because some homeowners don`t see/get water on-the-floor anymore,after the system was installed, does not mean your actual problem,the real entry point(s) for the water, was solved and can certainly get worse when it wasn`t correctly diagnosed/identified.

Budlight Dude
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7RMi...eature=related

Budlight commercial
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ve5bV...eature=related

'Dude' Bud comercial,brother version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nRrruq121o

Obama Girl, leave her a comment
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yl8J0...eature=related
here`s Johnny B`s comment............got milk?

Bill O` trying to tap Obama Girl
http://www.youtube.com/user/barelypolitical

[john bubber]

Pathetic! Can`t help but feel bad/embarrassed for the GOOD HI`s out there.
http://www.nachi.org/forum/f53/new-m...ons-too-34999/

Any homeowner who has a leaky basement and wants to PAINT the inside wall(s), go right ahead. If YOU SELL yer house and claim you SOLVED your leaky basement by applying paint then you`ll VERY likely have a court date or two in the near future. Better hope the buyer is more than a few sandwiches short of a picnic.

Now, if you heed the supposed expert-hero-advice from an HI who tells you all you need to do to solve a leaky basement is paint your basement wall(s) and you still leak/get sued, you really need to sue the shtt outta the HI. Not just the inspection fee, no.

Hey KEN C...........
would YOU tell homeowners who had water entering the house through open mortar joints or a chimney or windows to..........PAINT the inside? Get Real!

[john bubber]

G Carlin..... "Lovely party Jeffrey but there`s a turd floating in the punch bowl"

The Endless Enigma.......

http://www.nachi.org/forum/f13/basem...meeting-22344/
Hmmm, apparently these guys are recommended to speak at Nachi chapter meeetings,how nice. Are the chapter members getting ALL the facts on this subject from the inside crew? Let me answer dat fer ya`s, NOPE.

Hey, when these inside co`s speak at yer meetings, do they ever bring up articles written by E O F Foundations, the U S Army Corps of Engineers Amherst Study on basements/leaks/lateral soil pressure? Huh?

They ever tell the members what Yoder Group writes about/knows?
How about Fairfax County VA understanding on basement wall cracks/damage and what to do?

Another lil inkling on how much many of these INSIDE guys have upstairs on this subject......and some want their HI members listening to this incompetent shtt?
http://www.basementsystems.com/forum...read.php?t=231

Question is about block walls/mold/efflorescence.....
the SUPPOSED 'Master Waterproofer' says, if it`s EFFLORESCENCE the ONLY thing you can do is cover it up! LolOlololOlLOolOlL!!!

Click MASTER`s name,then click public profile

So Mr Master says if there is efflorescence on a basement wall, the only thing you can do is COVER IT UP.....and adds, would be BEST to cover the walls with a wall system like Thermal Wall....and he says it is a PERMANENT SOLUTION to an unsightly problem.

Nothing about why the efflorescence is there, just cover it up, sell that inside system baby!

Let`s see what others KNOW about EFFLORESCENCE and ummm, they don`t tell people to cover it up and install an inside system.

http://www.aggregateresearch.com/for...ID=82&MID=2360
"Water infiltrates the blocks........if the efflorescence crystals grow inside the surface of the unit, it can cause spalling.......the BEST WAY to PREVENT the problem is to PREVENT WATER from INFILTRATING the BLOCKS.......whenever we see this problem,there is usually a leak somewhere that ALLOWS WATER to ENTER the BLOCK WALL.......once the SOURCE of the WATER INFILTRATION has been LOCATED and STOPPED, the walls can be cleaned...."

Hmmm, now thats a whole bunch different than what the supposed Master Waterproofer tells people.
Somebody is WRONG here and it`s NOT Aggregate Resch/Larry.

Even Timmy C gets most of this/efflorescence
http://www.askthebuilder.com/499_Eff..._Masonry.shtml
Para 6..... to STOP efflorescence you MUST STOP ALL WATER from ENTERING the masonry surfaces.

Para 12... Stopping water from entering masonry surfaces is the BEST way to make efflorescence stop. LOLOL

The MASTER from Basement Systems says COVER IT UP. Others try and correctly inform people to FIND and stop/prevent the water source. Maybe Nachi should have Larry P explain things more clearly at meetings instead of the inside guys,wouldn`t want members getting bad info/false claims would ya?

Don`t see the connection, importance?
Oh well here, try this. If an HI hears this kinda junk and believes it to be true then, when asked about efflorescence or basement waterproofing etc from homeowners on their inspections, what are they going to repeat/forward to homeowners? Now ya filled homeowners heads up with the same GARBAGE.

Just cover the wall right? Or just paint it like this lady and many others tried?
http://www2.snapfish.com/slideshow/A...6/t_=122238283

http://www2.snapfish.com/slideshow/A...6/t_=122238283
Ummm, see efflorescence? Lady hired a bozo to patch inside-vertical crack right under that basement window and then paint walls. Nope, doesn`t fix/solve the real-problem and in this case,like many the real problem is on the outside of the block wall.

LOOKIE
http://www2.snapfish.com/slideshow/A...6/t_=122238283
Homeowner gets water on floor at wall-floor joint and, has efflorescence and some mold on basement wall due to cracks and other openings on outside.Covering the inside of wall and installing an inside system and/or painting the dumb wall does NOT repair/waterproof exterior cracks now does it. The mold and efflorescence can only get worse if one doesn`t stop the water from where it first enters the block wall,and that means waterproofing the dumb wall/cracks on the outside.

So just cover the inside walls and/or paint the walls and sell the house right? Get real.Click the pictures.
http://www2.snapfish.com/thumbnailsh...6/t_=122238283

Oh, before i forget to ask KEN C....... and simply asking a question! No harm in that right? Ok. Ken, what happened on couple of those BBB customer complaints? BBB has ya with an unsatisfactory record,apparently...according to their site, due to failure to respond to complaint. Just wondering if those had anything ta do with possibly recommending to homeowners who may have a leaky basement to paint the inside of block wall(s).

ELP/The Endless Enigma
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhW0VPsZpeo

ELP/Trilogy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39PohjygJew

[john bubber]

Question for homeowners.....
When you had a home inspection and basement had a leaky area or two, did the HI recommend a company that installs inside systems? Or maybe did not recommend any particular company but said installing an inside system is best? Maybe you heard on some radio home improvement show, the host tell ya it`s best to have an inside perimeter system done.

Was your house/basement tested fer radon BEFORE abc-nitwit-inside-watermanagement company installed the inside system?
http://www.cancer.gov/cancerTopics/factsheet/Risk/radon

Did anyone take the time and competently explain to you that installing inside systems can/does INCREASE radon level `n other soil gases into the house/basement?

Leaving a GAP....OPEN, along the WALL-FLOOR joint alone allows radon `n other gases easy access and many do leave these gaps open. They also do not seal cracks and other EXTERIOR openings in block walls where radon can easily enter. Remember,just about all of your basement walls,the exterior walls, were not waterproofed when built.

Yeah, they leave joints open
http://www.sundrywaterproofing.com/pdf/baseboard.pdf
they say...."NEVER seal the joint where the floor and wall meet"

Supposedly,about 1 out of every 15 homes have elevated radon levels, BEFORE any inside system was installed!!

How many inside systems have been installed in basements in the last 10-20 years? Ask again.....how many of THESE homes were tested for radon?

Technical Guidance Study Series/U S Environmental Protection Agency
http://www.clu-in.org/conf/tio/vapor...pb94110517.pdf

Pg 16...Contaminated soil gases can enter a structure through any opening........this includes cracks in below grade floors and walls, porous structural components such as cinderblocks,sumps.......

Don`t see anything about rod holes in poured walls. Rod holes can also allow radon inside, shtt, many rod holes only have a dumb,stupid cork in da hole.Well,the corks disslove,fall apart in time, and the exterior walls were not waterproofed.

Pg 24 Table 2-2..... WALL/FLOOR JOINT around perimeter where the slab meets the foundation wall. Eyeball page 22, Entry points A-K.
See 'D' ?

Exterior walls not waterproofed,cracks,loose-cracked parging and other openings can and often do occur. Sump pumps can allow soil gases to enter and so too can those GAPS along the WALL-FLOOR joint. How about those HOLES they drill in hollow block walls. Exterior blocks aren`t waterproofed and now they`ll drill holes on inside!

Ya don`t think it`s very likely some homeowners who had inside systems installed now have HIGHER radon levels and other soil gases in home/basement???

Inside guy Steve here says.....i do not ever recommend sealing the FLOOR/WALL joint
http://www.pioneerbasement.com/forum...read.php?t=129

Just wondering if the Inside Co, the owner or salesperson tells ya any of this....among many other things noted in this thread.

Jefferson Homeowners File Radon Lawsuit
http://www.wvrecord.com/news/215763-...-radon-lawsuit

[john bubber]

Another Basement Systems guy for ya. Apparently doing inside systems for about 7-8 years, wonderful.
http://www.nyashi.com/newsletter/200...t%20drains.pdf

Right off the bat it says, FOOLPROOF CURE for Wet Basement..........
SKIP the EXTERIOR excavation and waterproofing--an INTERIOR perimeter drainage system can work just as well. LolololOLloLOLOlOllloollLLl!!!

Really? Well umm, since an inside system doesn`t STOP/prevent water,insects,radon etc from entering through exterior cracks and other openings, how does it work as well?

Add, inside systems do not relieve/lessen/remove exterior soil pressure,or other exterior pressures and weights that cause cracks,existing cracks to widen,subsequent leaks or even a wall to bow inward, ya know? Guess ya don`t. Maybe read U S Army Corp Eng Amherst link,Yoder Group link,Fairfax County VA link,Shaker Heights Bldg Dept link etc etc before ya make such claims sir because, these claims are FALSE.

Back to his story, among other things he brings up a recent project which supposedly involved a 1950s ranch home w/a block foundation. He says the basement in this house was soaking wet......water running DOWN THE WALLS (block) and when ya opened the basement door you were greeted by a wave of humid air....smell of mold.

He says HO tried numerous coats of PAINT,exterior GRADING,and a cheap sump pump etc...supposedly one contractor recommended excavating outside and installing a perimeter drain (dunno if it was a bs shallow french drain etc)....and supposedly large deck was in the way and estimate was twice as much as inside system so HO hired his gang to install an inside system.

Let me ask please, did you define/locate how-where the water was FIRST ENTERING,getting in? Ya state it was running DOWN the BLOCK walls inside and so, at least part of the problem,maybe all was water that was first entering from the outside and sounds like at least some of it was getting in through ABOVE grade openings since it was seen running down the block wall. POINT IS, did you bother to take the time and locate/find how some/all of this water was first entering and then running down the wall inside? Huh? Just sold HO an inside system and cover the wall(s)?

See images. Drilling HOLES in blocks etc. The HOLES are ummmmm....
left OPEN. What can enter through porous blocks, especially blocks that now have MORE holes in them? Radon!

Hey umm, water that comes out of the blocks after you drill holes is umm, getting INTO the blocks on the OUTSIDE....sheesh K! Your NOT concerned about finding/locating how-where this water is first entering? And not concerned about repairing the exterior openings? Not concerned about the possibility of the blocks/wall deteriorating? Not concerned about termites and other insects entering same crack/exterior openings? What about mold,efflorescence?

Article says, the flange is designed to LEAVE a small GAP along the wall....
Ummm, what about radon or other soil gases entering the basement/house sir? You don`t think this is possible or important?

Oh yeah, whats up with those BBB customer complaints?
Why is it that most-all of these inside co`s say their complaints are all from angry-shtty homeowners? Maybe they`re angry cuz they found out too late many inside co`s BLCCHTT them into a system that doesn`t stop/prevent water from entering,won`t stop mold/efflorescence associated with the ACTUAL leak/problem or found they really ONLY needed to replace a basement window(s) or have some tuckpointing done.

Back to article, see the photos of the sump discharge line? ha!
Adding water into the soil surrounding the house, that side of the house can umm, increase the LATERAL SOIL PRESSURE against the stupid basement wall! Knock knock.

And, this ADDED WATER from the discharge line could cause differential settling in that area. What happens to those who have drive/patio slabs nearby or brick pavers or........a deck, and so on.

'Finishing touches'......
says they often install fiberglass panels over the interior basement walls,says panels won`t support MOLD growth.

Well what about mold on the basement wall BEHIND the panels...sheesh!!!
Water is still entering, come on! yeah, the HO won`t SEE it, the NEXT homeowner won`t see it and also will not know the actual CONDITION of the basement wall.

Apparently, in 2005/6 they charged about $8,000 for a SMALL ranch job like this. How much now. Ummm, for small exterior jobs like this....IF all 4 walls were needed and thats most often NOT the case, it would have cost about $8,000 to hand dig `n waterproof. Part of decks can be removed to hand dig, not all like some think. But you state exterior contractor wanted twice as much.

Do these inside water-management companies TEST for RADON in basements BEFORE they sell ya their one supposed solution, BEFORE they create MORE openings in yer basements?

Home inspection ORG`s who recommend inside systems. Hmmm,well if they recommend inside systems/co`s then they must know what they`re talking about,right?
Breath deep, the gathering gloom.......and which is an illusion
ASHI http://www.ashireporter.org/articles...s.aspx?id=1559
NAHI http://www.nahi.org/public/department76.cfm
NACHI http://www.nachi.org/basementsystemsusa2007.htm
if i missed someone please let me know, got milk?

G Carlin- some people have NO food at all and others eat a nourishing meal and puke it up intentionally.

[john bubber]

Home Imp contractors shut down for cheating consumers
http://www.ag.state.oh.us/press/08/11/pr081107.pdf

Sechriest is affiliated with Basement Finishing Systems Central Ohio
http://centralohio.bbb.org/WWWRoot/R...&firm=70005420

aka Supreme Remodeling aka Masterguard Remodeling etc
http://www.centralohio.bbb.org/WWWRo...&firm=70007870

[john bubber]

Per some of recent posts, the supposed-waterproofing-heros, who tell homeowners they just need to paint the inside of block walls if wall(s) are wet or others who also do not CORRECTLY identify/locate where the water is first entering and rather sell people some sort of dorky azz interior system and cover the walls w/fiberglass er vinyl crap.....

Pic`s, block basement wall
http://picasaweb.google.com/Tom.Zerk...01277358437234


http://picasaweb.google.com/Tom.Zerk...00726557571922
....'wires were sitting in water'.


http://picasaweb.google.com/Tom.Zerk...01312458182386
See the WOOD above the basement wall.......huh?
PART....or ALL of the problem will be an exterior opening(s) ABOVE grade, or a few times it`ll be from some sort of interior problem/plumbing leak etc

IF.....there was wall drywall/paneling against wall then your not going to see the water/moisture up high now are ya and can be EASILY BLCHHTTT`D into an INSIDE drain tile or baseboard system.

Inside knotheads don`t STOP `n prevent this, nor do they give 2 craps about identifying/determining where the water first enters. They`ll give ya some knothead-reason and wind up telling you to cover the wall(s) and install an inside system, usually w/a sump pump.

These incompetent scammers tell ya their wall covering, the fiberglass er vinyl won`t support mold growth,shtt like that. BUT, mold can-will grow on the basement wall BEHIND the dumb azz wall covering they wanna put up,do they inform every HO of this? Nope.

http://picasaweb.google.com/Tom.Zerk...00949378376194
Mold. Eyeball tac strip. How much behind drywall,under padding?

http://picasaweb.google.com/Tom.Zerkle/WaterDamage

HI ORG`s RECOMMEND you call INSIDE SYSTEMS for any-all your leaky basement problems? HUH??? Nope, not if they often/only recommend those companies who install inside systems.

The HI ORG or maybe a home improvement radio talk show host who recommend inside system companies to you, hey, is the ORG or host going to be there for you when you finally notice/realize the inside system/company they recommended did NOT solve the REAL problem and you have more mold growing on wall or under carpet or have wires sitting in water or have a crack in the wall that has widened or wall bowing in? SHTT, as the great Ernie Harwell said, they`ll be.....'LOOOONG GONE!" They`ll make up some blcchttt, they`ll have some crap to tell you or in print that they supposedly aren`t liable,they were supposedly only trying to help.That is a BUNCH of CRAP.

Go back and see Mr Compton in video, telling people to paint or apply some crap on interior of block walls INSTEAD of, first locating/identifying how the water/moisture is getting.....why its there to begin with.

http://picasaweb.google.com/peter.ma...46207487906178
Hear this kind stuff ALL the g dang time! 'Leak/water in basement DUE to disconnected front drainage'.....'downspout extension not long enough/fell off'......'there`s a low spot on yard'. LOLOL! SO what if there is a low spot outside! How can ya possibly reason a low spot is WHY water gets in? Or yer dog knocked off the downspout extension chasing the mailman around the house? Shtt like that. Thats not why/how water is allowed to get in basement, through a basement wall or through openings ABOVE the basement wall,NO!

http://picasaweb.google.com/nicoleru...31241667052034
Sheesh folks, hope you defined the work yer going to need here before making an offer on house. Did ya blchht`d and told something like, "all you need to do is raise and slope the grade"? Someone put some kind of crap on basement wall, then looks like they PAINTED it and hoped,somehow,magically this would solve their problems/leaks.

Realtor states,Dry Basement, eyeball those paint buckets
http://picasaweb.google.com/FixOrFli...35262464912818

http://picasaweb.google.com/FixOrFli...AveClevelandOh
Yeah, maybe basement is dry/has no problems-cracks etc and then again,maybe it isn`t.
Maybe, you just COVERED up some of the inside signs of water intrusion by patching/painting walls.And if they have a home inspection, the inspector may not see any signs of water intrusion,walls were just painted! Sometimes the floor is too.And maybe it hasn`t rained for awhile when inspection is done and, maybe it is raining or just started raining when HI is there, just because he/she may not see any water in basement in that 2-3 hours does NOT mean there aren`t any leaks/seepage,exterior cracks.Not the HI`s fault some dipstick flippers/realtors say/do certain shtt like painting etc.
Hear this stuff all to often too from realtors and very often there is a leak/seepage and they think they solved leak by PAINTING! Younger couples buying first home seem to get blhhht`d pretty often by realtors who tell em this kinda stuff or, all they need to do is raise and slope the dumb az grade.



http://picasaweb.google.com/milwrock...24477687032354
He says/thinks, 'this is the wall that had water damage in the basement...you can see the downspout is misplaced and poor pitching job'. LolololOlLOOLOllL

Look at it this way, if ya can, let`s say he adds an 80' long extension on that elbow and so, yes, he`ll help redirect THAT WATER,water coming off that part of the roof,further away.HOW-freaking-ever, this will not keep the RAIN away, ya know, when it falls outta the sky!! It`ll land along this SAME g damn area! So too will snow,even if ya shovel the dumb walk it`ll melt and go into the soil several feet away and percolate down and most likely SIDEWAYS, underneath the walk/concrete and IF part/all of his problem is a crack in wall then he`s still going to leak.

[john bubber]

People in PA, holy hell! Knew there were some scary-incompetent inside water-diverters there but not as many as just found out. J Kristmas! MANY who installed inside systems w/lifetime guarantees have either, gone out of business/and so to did the guarantees (naw, don`t mean after 25-30, err died etc),
have many customer complaints,many of those are unanswered complaints resulting in unsatisfactory BBB record,others will not respond to BBB for basic company information,you know, hiding out types and so on.

Now this guy/company has a brand spankin` new video fer ya`s in PA
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...proofing&hl=en

Says he`s been in thousands of basements,yup ok, maybe ya have .....doesn`t impress Bubber man. Anyway, ya say you have 20 years of experience......doing what? Installing inside systems? And with who, companies who install inside systems? When searching Bsmt Lifeguard can`t seem to FIND you anywhere,no BBB record,no nothing. Ok so maybe yer starting out,fine.....say so.

Ya say you have lifetimes guarantees.......on WHAT?
Do you guarantee NO water-moisture will enter the basement walls through exterior cracks or other openings that block walls often have?
See many previously posted pics in thread of exterior cracks etc.

No, bet it says something like, you guarantee the area of the basement floor where ya broke out strip concrete will be free from water,not the wall.

Hey umm, yer 'tried and trusted techniques'.....will they help stop/prevent radon gas and other possible soil gases from entering the basement OR, do they allow these gases easier access into basement, huh?

Does your inside system help stop/prevent mold and efflorescence from growing on the basement walls due to water-moisture entering through the dumb wall......huh?

Does your inside system help relieve,lessen exterior lateral soil pressure,roots etc which cause many cracks,cause existing cracks to widen and sometimes a wall to bow inward....huh?

Yoder,U S Army Corps of Engs,Fairfax County VA etc have articles on this, ya may wanna read them and.....UNDERSTAND them ok.

'Some basements are certainly wetter than others'. Duh!!
....Most of the problems you see are at the perimeter or cove.....

Well, same shtt here fer 30 g dang test-_-cle busting years, Go FIGURE!

You say you install a pressure relief system in basements where ya see water along the cove,perimeter.

Not some of us sir, no. Know why? Because the water that is seen along the cove,perimeter inside basement is there....winds up there, because the water FIRST ENTERS on the outside through exterior cracks and other shtt.

If this is what ya do most-all of the time then you have NOT correctly identified most homeowners problems,where the water first enters,nope,so sowy. And since ya don`t stop it from where it first enters then all the other shtt could/can happen....more mold,efflorescence,paint peeling,insects entering,cracks widening,radon entering etc.Yeppers.

And ummm, way to cover up the low blocks w/vinyl or whatever it is. Yup, those first blocks up off floor sure can DETERIORATE can`t they.
They get moldy,break up etc and since you don`t stop water from entering ya cover em up. Ok, whatever you want sir.
Oh, on yer website it says yer a member of Perkiomen Valley Chamber of Commerce, maybe and maybe not.Can`t find ya`s anywhere there either.Tried searching Cham Of Comm under contractors,plumbers etc etc, nowhere to be found. Maybe they have ya listed under Catering er,dental er cleaning services er recreation,better check.

See this video yet? Drylok, Waterproofing your basement. Maybe Ken saw dis one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MCajsCfksE
Mr Pat talks about turning unfinished basement into usable,livable space BUT BUT BUT,
ya have one serious problem,water seepage from the outside coming in. He says there`s a simple SOLUTION to that. WOW! As the Beatles sang, I........shoulda known better.
Well, guess Capizzo,EOF,my azz is outta business! Drylok is all people need.
Shtt, maybe i`ll get into home inspections.

Ya know, all due respect to most but come freakin` on! This kind of stuff/videos are INCOMPETENT-FALSE CLAIMS and do not define/diagnose homeowners real-probelms/leaks,,,Blchtt man, NO they do not. And some wonder why we are pizzed/frustrated? Shtt man, maybe G Carlin had a good idea about taking opium rekk-tally. I may try it very soon and yes, i`ll post back `n let those of you who really care know how my trip was. Got MILK?

Jethro Tull/One Brown Mouse
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhpGq_L0aO4

Uriah Heep/July Morning Japan `73
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhgW-u7A98g

[john bubber]

Leap of Faith. All you gotta do is get saved, thank you Jesus.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOsf_...eature=related

Brother Bubba`s Traveling Waterproofing Show, pack up the babies `n grab the old ladies and everyone go.

http://www.prlog.org/10153427-perma-...ng-system.html
Says in part,....its wiser `n healthier to fisrt minimize humidty,prevent deadly gases like radon from entering a home,eradicate mold and stop damaging water leaks before they happen.

Says, patching cracks is not a solution.
Hope they mean patching them on the inside is not a solution.

Says, they seal cracks and pipe penetrations with an epoxy paste, then injects.
Questions please..how do you fix/repair/waterproof exterior cracks in block walls?
How do you seal pipe penetrations on the outside, where gas lines etc enter through block wall?
Do ya`s hand dig all the way down on outside where-needed,in the area(s) the homeowner leaks inside?

They bring up mold and apparently use 'insulating blankets' that supposedly are the ultimate vapor barrier.

Hmm, if you don`t waterproof exterior cracks in block walls, pipe penetrations etc then water/moisture will still enter, the blankets have nothing to do with stopping the water thats still gonna enter and quite possibly cause mold on the block wall behind yer blanket.

And they bring up preventing deadly gases like radon from entering.

Well, if you install inside system and drill holes in block walls,leave gaps/spaces along the wall-floor joints then radon `n other gases have an easier time to wander on in. How is drilling holes in blocks and leaving gaps open 'preventing' radon etc from entering?

Using any sort of supposed concrete sealer on inside of block walls doesn`t stop radon from entering the cores through exterior cracks and other openings. Once its inside the hollow blocks it can/could move up inside the blocks and if tops of walls are capped it can get into other areas of the house.Just like termites and other insects can enter through same exterior cracks and move within the blocks `n go where they like.

Here`s one of many homes that have exterior cracks and HO only gets water in along wall-floor joint, yup yup, i said brother.

Do you folks remove roots,soil,footing etc that can cause cracks, cracks to widen,deteriorate a wall? If ya don`t believe SOIL causes PROBLEM,cracks-damage then read U S Army Corp Eng,Yoder,Fairfax VA links.
http://photosmart.hpphoto.com/FilmSt...5281e76&SKU=HP

See hairline cracks inside basement? See pics 4,5.
See water stains, where water enters along wall-floor joint pic 6
See pics 8,9....root against wall, causing cracks and wiped out the corner block in pic 16. And eyeball other cracks.

So how will installing any inside system and concrete sealer etc remove roots etc that can cause further damage? How are ya going to stop/prevent water,insects etc from getting into the blocks through those exterior cracks?
http://chicago.bbb.org/WWWRoot/Repor...0654&firm=6764 A few headaches in last 36 months?
Amen brother.

N Diamond/Brother Love`s Traveling Salvation Show....hallelujah
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fA_o...eature=related

Emerson Lake and Palmer/Hoedown, Milan 1973
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0FuFfcCZiE

[john bubber]

Nothing could stop the forest fire......except maybe....a miracle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jq66EA8aKy0


LaCombe Foundation project was faced with deficiences
http://www.lacombeglobe.com/ArticleD...aspx?e=1339676

Call `em......Neverdry
http://www.complaints.com/2008/july/...dry_176622.htm
'save yourselves' lolol

http://centralohio.bbb.org/WWWRoot/R...0302&firm=1174



Sick `em Rachel baby
Bungled Bailout.Elizabeth Warren chair of the congressional oversight panel/Harvard Professor 1:25 mark
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#28167084


M Lynch`s top dude on 2009 outlook and beyond
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540...74597#28174597

Oops...it`s ok Erin baby, most know G Dub suks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HgvQ...eature=related

Erin or Maria? C Manson talking crazy...'Everything is sneaky up around sneakyville' lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcU0v...eature=related

[john bubber]

-Video
Hamlin couple sued a local company for damage and won but haven`t seen a g dang DIME. Now the state is billing THEM !@#$$#@! for an environmental cleanup CAUSED by the same company!
http://www.whec.com/article/stories/....shtml?cat=566

In 2003 the homeowners unfortunately hired dork-dry who broke a fuel line which caused 900 gallons of heating oil to spill, they sued `n won but have yet to get a dime. Bachman Turner Overdrive once wrote, 'You Ain`t Seen Nothing Yet'.

This is more BLCHHHTT,nonsense,incompetence from an inside system company who always tells people they offer on a LIFETIME GUARANTEE, nonsense. Say yet again..........most of these WEASELS do NOT correctly,competently,honestly identify-diagnose where the water FIRST enters into the home/basement......blcchtttt, no they do not and please don`t tell my old azz differently g dammmitttt.

See here g dammmmitt, according to BBB the dikkheads have gone out-of-business, how convenient for THEM. http://search.bbb.org/Results.aspx?n...dd=&c=&st=NY&z= click em both.

WHAT happens to all the OTHER HOMEOWNERS supposed LIFETIME GUARANTEES who hired these weasels???????

Many inside system co`s love to tell the world how many 'jobs pffft' they`ve done and how many millions they`ve made. Like Mid Atlantic waterp`g, said they made over 27 million a year or two ago. Well then, when ya`s have FC UPS as in this story then TAKE CARE of it will ya PLEASE! PAY the homeowners so they can fix yer screw up and move on with their lives!!!!!!!!!!!!

As is most often the case, when these incompetent sob`s go out of business due to complaints,lawsuits....another outfit will pop up in/around the same neighborhood and start the same BLCHHTT all over, just with a different owner. Wish i could vomit from MI to NY `n Ohio, right on top of these fraudsters, then dig a ditch and toss their dumb azz jackhammers `n crappy vinyl/fiberglass wall covering and supposed lifetime warranties in DA HOLE.

Same location not too long ago had a lil problem w/EEOC
http://www.eeoc.gov/press/10-27-06.html

And,if my azz remembers correctly, there was a different owner at same location who accumulated many customer complaints and he moved on which wiped out the previous BBB complaints, this sob took over and had over 20 complaints within last 36 months.

Previously posted a link that said this same national company was going to start doing HOME INSPECTIONS! Holy HELL. Who do i call fer leaky basement inspection/recommendation.....Ken or Everdry?

Builder`s and their money bag org need to start building freakin homes to keep water OUT. Yeah, there`s some good ones but quite a few LOSER BUILDERS who dunno jack shtt on THIS subject and prolly don`t give 2 craps. http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/sundays...736a22400.html

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10524517

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/leaky-buil...s.cfm?c_id=562
scroll down and eyeballs the ...'leaky buildings headlines'

Our lil SQUIRREL buddy has something for quite a few builders and these incompetent INSIDE SYSTEM Co`s, listen to Mr Squirrel Everdry http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jq66EA8aKy0 check that lil gas-hiccup at the end of vid.


Vid-Residents deal with flooded basements
http://www.khastv.com/modules/news/a...4&storytopic=4
Near end of story, 'Gabriel' says he has spent about $20,000....STILL LEAKS!!!
10 sumps pumps, can`t tell if they tore up perimeter of floor too but prolly so since he has spent $20,000 so far.
He will continue to leak until the problem(S) are correctly `n honestly identified!
Shht man, we`d have made many millions too if every house/estiamte i went on i blchhht`d the homeowners. Yeah, you`d see Bubber`s azz on Tv,radio too and have full page Yellow Page ads. if i told every homeowner they all need an inside system like many other companies do.

The lady in video, 'Carol' says it was first time they got water in, 2-3" apparently.
Well, something has happened/occurred which caused this 2-3" in yer basement.
Could be the city`s fault/problem........could be 1 or more cracks have occurred or if she has poured walls maybe the x-amount of rod holes have now deteriorated `n leak and/or other openings have occurred around basement windows or open mortar joints etc.FIND out WHY-WHERE water entered.

Looks like a finsihed basement so you may need to take part of yer drywall off and eyeball the walls or, run water-test w/a hose on the outside of walls if you don`t wanna take dumb drywall off. Tearing out carpet/padding,pumping the water outta basement isn`t diagnosing your problem(S) and you may indeed leak again.Don`t cross yer fingers and think its a one time goofy thing. There`s a reason(s) water was in yer basement,find it.
Don`t think ya wanna follow 'Gabriels' lead and try spending a shttload on sump pumps or inside system.

Vid-How about this lady, she says the WATER would ONLY come THROUGH the CRACKS
http://www.cbs2chicago.com/topstorie....2.332560.html

Well, if she ONLY was getting water through the cracks/walls then...she ONLY needed to waterproof those cracks! She didn`t need this guy to tear up her basement floor and put inside system in, doesn`t need that BLCCHTTT against inside walls, doesn`t need a sump pump,nope.....not if the water only came through the cracks.This kind of shtt,talking people into unnecessary shtt....they do not need happens every day. These BOZO`s have an UNSATISFACTORY BBB record due to FAILURE to respond to complaint, 9 complaints in last 36 months. BET ya there are MORE. Tired of this incompetent crap.
http://chicago.bbb.org/WWWRoot/Repor...&firm=86000908 And ummm, when it says complaints have been 'RESOLVED'...thats just some more blchtt. Resolved does NOT mean the homeowners agreed to whatever the BBB or company offered or did to follow up their fc ups. Nope.

And it says, 'dig down to foundation and repair crack for $300 a piece'??????
HUH? Somebody is blccchttg here. You want to put out there to the public that each/every crack can be dug out 6-7'+ deep and repaired fer $300? LolOlllOLlOlolllL
Not here,not ever. Don`t believe everything this guy may have told ya Dorothy!
If we dug out any job/1 crack for $300.....i`d LOSE $500-600 on every g dang job.Be outta business in a week! What a bunch of misinformation,fc me. Thousands of bcllhhht-laden articles/stories on this subject.



Jennifer Love http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woZmZ...eature=related
Johnny B. Good still waiting for your call Jen. 1-800-got-milk