something else to chew on

[john bubber]

Some claim all injections of cracks in poured walls will bond/weld the wall-crack together,goes all the way through to outside,will be even stronger
http://picasaweb.google.com/crystal....27012947610418


Some furry friends in basement
http://picasaweb.google.com/BrettASa...ageAndProblems

http://picasaweb.google.com/BrettASa...08611113552066
Beavers are our furry friends


http://picasaweb.google.com/injwalsh...78964102167090
Sir, ya have a lil water intrusion problem at corner


http://picasaweb.google.com/Techdurt...74908908939634
Inside System was installed,see perimeter basement floor,a lil mold problem
http://picasaweb.google.com/Techdurt...74877876139154


http://picasaweb.google.com/amitsgro...38429385257842
'better not be any mold problems Ryan Homes'


Mastercard,priceless http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aySEdLaEDc8

[john bubber]

http://www.drybasementsystems.com/wtrgrd.html
Says, 'has a special wall flange that creates a narrow space between the wall and floor......'

Yep, gaps/openings,narrow spaces at wall-floor joint allows easier access of radon or other soil gases into that living space, wonderful.That`s special Indoor Air Quality fer ya.

And ya say no dirt `n blcchtt can get in? How ya figure? It`s has openings and yer gonna drill holes in block walls, remember? Or leave a gap/space between wall and floor. Well, dirt/sediment can certainly get into the blocks through exterior cracks `n other openings. It can get into the blocks and then get into yer plastic/vinyl/whatever track,just like water will get into the block cores through same exterior cracks.

http://www.drybasementsystems.com/waterproofing.html
Ya`s talk about mold,cracks in walls but don`t eliminate water that enters through a block wall. Can`t stop/prevent mold if you don`t stop the water source. If you don`t think mold can grow on the basement wall behind some sort of wall covering yer fooling yourself.
And ya say your certified professionals will 'determine' what is causing your basement problems and how it can be solved.

Don`t you really mean your ONLY supposed solution is to install a waterguard system, huh? You`ll go to peeps homes, go in basement and almost if not always arrive with the same scheme, an inside system.

Why can`t you inside system peeps just BYPASS all the blcchttt CLAIMS and tell people something like this.....
Folks, we don`t truly identify/determine where-how water first comes in,we don`t care much about that and we only install inside systems that should keep water off the stupid basement floor where we install it along perimeter.We can`t help relieve exterior soil pressure or other pressures that could cause more damage to your wall and our system won`t stop mold,efflorescence from growing on your wall and you`ll have an increased possibility of elevated radon levels in yer home.

Shhessh, those who install inside systems can`t even agree on what the fc to do with cracks in poured walls fer Krist sake.

Some tell ya they`ll inject cracks w/epoxy or urethane and it`ll last forever,lifetime guarantee `n shtt and others tell you the following....
http://www.drybasementsystems.com/flexispan.pdf
They state,
'The Flexispan crack repair method eliminates messy,UNRELIABLE epoxy or urethane injections....works every time'

Well, which is it?

Neither one seems to give a shtt about what CAUSED the dumb az crack in first place, just do something from INSIDE.


Planning for a RAISED PATIO? Pouring concrete on top of existing concrete?
Now this guy UNDERSTANDS exterior soil pressure,added WEIGHT and the DAMAGE that can occur.
http://www.helium.com/items/1022235-...d-patio?page=3

Severe damage can be CAUSED if a raised patio is installed along a foundation wall that does not have adequate capacity to resist the greatly increased inward lateral pressure caused by the new soil.......

Many contractors that install patios do not understand the effect of a new raised patio on the adjacent foundation wall......what may be considered relatively small increases in backfill can cause large increases in lateral pressure against the wall.

Additional WEIGHT (of ANYTHING) placed on top of soil backfill causes additional lateral pressure against the foundation wall. Knock knock.

Some have poured new driveways,patios over-atop existing ones....
more WEIGHT-pressure,some walls will be ok and some will not,got milk?
Yer taking unnecessary risks.Take the old drive/patio out will ya please.

Raising yer GRADE can/could also cause cracks,subsequent leaks or even a wall to bow in.Not talking about 10 bags of top soil but some have brought in truck load of soil and raised their grade 1-2'...carefull.

Few pic`s from U S Army Corp of Enginers Amherst NY, lateral soil pressure
http://www.lrb.usace.army.mil/Amhers...os/photos.html
1) lateral pressure causing typical 45 degree stair-step crack in block basement wall
see inside system? Did it help,relieve soil pressure? Nope, not today and not tomorrow.
2) lateral pressure causing vertical mid-span crack in basement wall
3) lateral pressure causing top of basement wall to bow inward 9 inches
(pilasters failed to brace wall)


Styx/Fooling Yourself....ya don`t believe it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rErn0lMNe8c

[john bubber]

Have sent Mr G here,an ASHI `n NAHI member, articles & pictures on dis subject,no response. Ok,no problem.
Many 'accomplishments'.
http://www.technihouse.com/bio.htm

All due respect Mr G,am sure yer a good man etc but since you apparently don`t want to respond to Johnny B on this subject.....
This says...... 'Home Inspector can advise on leaks'
http://www.freep.com/article/2008121...812140317/1017

....take a dang guess, who would write up an estimate for $20,000

in part it states.....'two leading home inspection ORG`s have strict standards of practice and ethics..........'

Mr G adds check out his site and click WET Basements. Ok, will do.
http://www.technihouse.com/pdfs/basements.pdf

Article says.... the good news is that homeowners can correct MOST leaking basements inexpensively.....and,here`s what to focus on.

He talks about the grade,raising da grade w/top soil....he says dig down a lil and apply mastic.

At least Mr G 'gets' this part.
Yes....IF IF IF the ONLY problem.....the ONLY opening(s) are just below the soil like, open mortar joints or loose-cracked bricks then as Johnny B Good and Mr G says, doing THIS can fix THAT, if and when THAT is the ONLY problem where water first enters. You win a free digging shovel!

Down to... 'Quick fixes'
He brings up basement window wells and talks about putting in perforated pipe and says.....any water that gets into the well quickly drains to tile.
Also says you can can a plastic cover and install it over well.

Yep, peeps can TRY this sir. In fact MANY have tried ALL kinds of stuff INSTEAD of....finding/locating the opening(s)/cracks where water first enters.
Here, these people have a plastic cover over well, they tried several things,like MANY others and still leaked.
http://www2.snapfish.com/slideshow/A...6/t_=122238283

Here`s the pic album,here`s why-where they leaked. NOT because of some supposed need for a plastic cover or supposed need/solution of putting in some drain tile in da well
http://www2.snapfish.com/thumbnailsh...6/t_=122238283

See pic`s from INSIDE the basement?
See pic`s of EXTERIOR. Some idiot backfilled with SHTT and, couldn`t competently waterproof the dumb azz crack, or other openings which were THE PROBLEMS.

Hear and READ these kind of SUPPOSED quick fixes/supposed remedies every g dang day, its nonsense.
INSTEAD of always recommending to homeowners to raise and slope the grade or get 5 mile long downspout extension and other shtt, why don`t YOU inform them they NEED to, IDENTIFY/DIAGNOSE/DETERMINE where the fc the water is first-getting-in.

If you wanna be helpful and educate homeowners on leaky basements then DO SO. THAT`S the real question isn`t it? Are those who recommend shtt to homeowners QUALIFIED/EDUCATED THEMSELVES? HUH?
How so? By taking a class ot two from someone who isn`t QUALIFIED EITHER!

ANYONE on this planet who recommends/says/thinks MOST leaky basements can be solved by adding soil or longer extensions are NOT,have NOT identified,correctly diagnosed whatever the actual problem/leak is!
Got that?
You may,you can CAUSE a PROBLEM. Especially when a house is being SOLD!!!

Won`t even get into his thoughts/supposed solution on CLOGGED drain tile.

Cracks in walls..........
He talks about a BOWED WALL `n crack,among other things he says, IF the movement is not severe, the MOVEMENT can be STOPPED by making sure the exterior landscaping and concrete are sloped away.

Really? The WEIGHT of the SOIL is still against the wall and/or, roots and/or concrete.
If its clay/silty soils then when it rains we`re gonna have swelling of the exterior soil that is against the wall,diverting some SURFACE water 5-10' away isn`t gonna to keep subsoil from swelling on longer/heavier rains or spring thaws. Or if the CAUSE is all or in part due to concrete slab(s) or a porch footing leaning against the wall then playing LANDSCAPING games won`t do squat about this either.
Still OK for some home inspectors to 'ADVISE' on leaks???

One more thing, where the one article states ASHI/NAHI have high standards/ethics......WHY do those ORG`s and others apparently RECOMMEND those companies who install INSIDE SYSTEMS?
http://www.ashireporter.org/articles...s.aspx?id=1559

http://www.nahi.org/public/department76.cfm

They ever recommend Capizzo,EOF etc,exterior contractors....huh?
Why not? Afraid to learn something? Thought inside systems was all ya needed to know? Money changing hands here?

Hm Imp Show websites,HI websites, Inside System azz ho websites....never see any LINKS posted like Yoder Group link or U S Army Corp Amherst Soil Study link or Fairfax County VA link or Shaker Heights Bldg Dept an quite a few others. Rarely see pictures posted of exterior cracks,soil,roots. Just see blcchttt Inside system shtt or raise the grade and extend the downspouts. If you wanna help educate homeowners then POST ALL the FACTS and POSSIBILITIES on how/where water can get in the freakin basement.

Have sent countless Hm Imp radio show HOSTS,the Army Corps of Eng,Yoder,Fairfax,Shaker Hts and shttload other articles and pictures....NONE of them have posted 1 article or picture on their website....why? They have bunch O shtt there about SUPPOSED causes `n solutions, why not add these artciles/pic`s? They all state they want to educate their listeners, shtt like that. Well........DO it. I fail to see the harm in posting GOOD info,all the facts. Oh.... its contrary to some of those companies who PAY YOU, oh, i see. So since these MORONS don`t want alll the facts out there and goes against their dumb azz inside systems AND...they PAY YOU MONEY, you won`t post the articles and pics.So its REALLY about YOU and those companies who PAY YOU and NOT actually about informing yer listeners everything they need to know. SCREW you

Home inspector can advise on basement leaks?
NOT if they advise to homeowners to BYPASS identifying/locating where/how the water is actually entering,blchhhtttt.
If their advice to homeowers who have leaky basements is raising the grade,mudjacking slabs,a downspout that extends to China then thats pretty shtty incompetent advice.

Some pic`s,wet,leaky basements,mold
http://www.warreninspect.com/basement-moisture
How about 3rd picture....
there are visible step cracks, both corners and quite possibly other exterior crack(s),loose-cracked parging WHERE WATER FIRST ENTERS into the damn BLOCKS....but,
they talk about grading `n downspouts instead of stating there are exterior cracks that need to be waterproofed outside to umm....stop/prevent further water from entering which causes mold/efflorescence on walls,allows insects to enter.

2nd pic, that basement window is PART of problem and they`ll very likely have EITHER or BOTH of the following outside....cracks/loose-cracked parging,other openings ABOVE ground/ABOVE the wall. If some think all that needs to be is grading or longer downspouts yer smoking too much weed.Or,if you think the entire problem is some sort of condensation or humidity problem you also need to put that doobie away,yer wrong.Don`t need to be in that basement to see, at least in part, what the fc the problem is.

Window well pic, if they are getting water in basement in THIS area where this well is then there is an opening(S) on the exterior. FIND and fix whatever is open.
If water is ONLY entering through/around the dumb azz window then replace the window correctly er seal whatever is open. If there is a CRACK in wall then waterproof the crack.
If it`s a combination of these things the they all need to be fixed/repaired.

They say, standing water and in window well contributes to seepage.
So what ya wanna do? Put a plastic bubble-head on well and add soil? If so, you have NOT determined/diagnosed where water is actually entering?
If there is a crack in the wall then adding soil or putting bubble shtt over well hasn`t waterproofed the crack, they`ll still leak. How do some come to the conclusion/belief that by adding soil along the house keeps all-most water away from the entire depth of a basement wall? Who told ya this, Dan Quayle???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvidXkvaciU P O T A T O E ,Quayle style


Tired of ALL the nonsense,the blchtt,the lies and false claims,fraud and.......the elbow rubbing,butt-kissin shtt that goes between some HI ORG`s,the BBB, some in the media,many hm improvement radio yap show hosts....and many inside system companies.
Here sukk this. http://www.reedberry.com/wienermobile.html


Bill Maher/New Rules
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcJoh...eature=related

Duck George!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePGvxEtvThI

[john bubber]

Oh Henry.
http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=256934 The LAST question......

person writes, has problem in back of house. Has TRIED VARIOUS 'solutions'??? for 3-4 years,still hasn`t solved problems. Village engineer suggested building a 30' retaining wall in back.........

Shtt, hey Mr homeowner, if you have been getting water in basement or worried about it then ya need to find/locate/identify where the crap it is/might first-entering INSTEAD OF, spending x-amount of dollars and wasting time playing water-diverting games. Now yer OUT whatever money you`ve spent, and the time and frustration. Builders/codes, waterproof the dumb az walls when ya build them and backfill em correctly....sheesh.

Mr D was a remodeling contractor, not a waterproofing/foundation guy.
Part of Mr Henri`s response says.....once water has been allowed to flow a few feet away from foundation,it will percolate in the soil and be stored harmlessly....... Dude, You kidding right?

Say what again?
'Once the water has been allowed to flow a few feet away from the foundation, it will percolate in the soil and be stored harmlessly'
Here it is again...................GRADE. Slope away.

Add soil, slope away. Add soil slope away. Add soil slope away. LOlolOlolL
Nonsense.

How ya figure surface water that may be sloped several feet away, all stays away UNDERGROUND,in the subsoil....and harmlessly?

You don`t think its possible for water to percolate through the subsoil SIDEWAYS? Ever think playing surface water diverting games can cause settling where yer diverting the water to?

Here`s some homeowners who TRIED raising and sloping the dumb azz grade.
IS THE GRADE SLOPED AWAY from the house ENOUGH FOR YA?
http://www2.snapfish.com/slideshow/A...6/t_=122238283
80-90%....'most' leaky basements can be SOLVED by raising/sloping the grade my azz.
YOU AIN`T identified the homeowners problem(s).

Rest of album, what was the real problem and solution?
http://www2.snapfish.com/thumbnailsh...6/t_=122238283

Another.....
http://www2.snapfish.com/slideshow/A...6/t_=122238283

http://www2.snapfish.com/slideshow/A...6/t_=122238283

http://www2.snapfish.com/thumbnailsh...6/t_=122238283

How many ya have time for?
You wanna learn a lil something or keep talkin shtt?
Who often gets screwed, loses MONEY when these goofy incompetent recommendations don`t work? It ain`t Oh Henry, its snot the HI or engineer.

And when someone is thinking about buying a house and this kind of blcchtt is recommended to potential buyer as actual solutions, there goes the opportunity for a buyer to offer LESS for the house so they can FIX the real problem/flaw.

From corn bread to corn h_le.

[john bubber]

Many homeowners are told a bunch O shtt,some are told they need an inside system fer these sorts of problems

Wet Basement due to.....
http://www2.snapfish.com/thumbnailsh...6/t_=122238283

What ta do
Raise and slope grade? Nope.
Longer downspout extensions? Nope.
Fill low spots? Nope.
Paint walls? Nope.
Inside system? Nope.

Several-different areas of basement where water enters, the worst is obvious, chimney area.

First thing ta do is locate how-where the dumb water first enters from the outside. There are different openings/problems here so there are different true-solutions to stop the water from where it first enters.

Pic`s 2-7 Homeowner gets water in up high,above the top of basement wall where it`ll run down the wall and onto dumb azz floor. He ONLY gets water on certain wind blown,longer/heavier rains in this area.

See wood,stains etc up high, above top of wall.
Could 'some' of the stains `n shtt have been caused by a prior leaky plumbing fixture? Sure. But nothing/no pipes-lines leak now and he still gets water in on those certain rains.

Since water enters up high,above the top of basement wall seen inside da basement then his problems/openings are on the outside ABOVE this point,above the top of wall outside. Couldn`t run a water-test for him today so, since don`t yet know exactly what all the opening(s) are, from past experience they`ll most likely be one or more of the following....

...open mortar joints, poorly tooled joints,thin joints and can be anywhere from ground level to top of chimney.
...the crown, from ground level looks like it has deteriorated a bit and can allow water in and wind up in basement,seen up high.
...the flashing may have gaps/spaces that allow water to first enter and then be seen in basement,up high.
...or any other opening/crack etc in the chimney.
He`ll need an honest-exp`d chimney-brick contractor to first inspect the whole g dang thing and then repair whatever the needs are.

Pic`s 8,9 The bathroom, right next to the chimney. Also is getting wet from the same area/problem.

10,11,13 This area is about 6 to 10 ft away from chimney, some water stains up high on basement wall and on wood above wall. Could be old stains,could be recent,HO doesn`t know,never looked up high in this area.

Outside above this area is doorway,sliding door.

12 Putting some concrete/whatever along cold joint may help keep possible radon under a basement floor from coming up but it won`t stop any exterior problems.

14,15 old or recent water,stains. HO doesn`t know.

16-18 exterior of Mr Chimney,is at least one open joint pic 18,yeah didn`t come out fer shtt.

19 exterior of pic`s 10,11,12,13

20,21 neighbors drive,seems to be a lil cracked up

22,23 tree,roots.....crack in wall. On inside,water will ONLY be seen at,along wall-floor joint, there is drywall against basement wall in this area. This water is NOT there because of some blcchtt story about hydrostatic pressure problem under the floor,no.

This water is first entering THROUGH da crack so,he`ll need to waterproof the crack, NOT the whole freakin wall, just the crack and get rid of da tree`s `n stuff would ya please.

24 one of several openings,ya need to believe water,insects can first enter this kind of shtt and wind up in your basement. When openings are big enough those furry lil mice can walk on in too. They need to spend Christmas somewhere too. Got milk?

Genesis/All in a Mouse`s Night
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXpIMoaU-as

Pink Floyd/Bike
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsf8sgOJjv0

Again http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnK1J...eature=related

Genesis/Afterglow
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUi0tajrLSo

[john bubber]

Wham video on couple who got screwed by Never-Dry
...scroll down for video
http://www.13wham.com/news/local/sto...r2NzGxlQg.cspx

Did these PUNKS even bother to identify the couple`s problem(s) or, did they just blcchttt them and tell them they needed an inside system?
According to all these inside system companies, everybody on the freakin planet must have an inside system.


Mr Z here, 20 yrs as a photographer and an ASHI member.....
all due respect Z-man but the TITLE alone is pretty scary.....
??? Install Sump Pump to Help Waterproof Walls ???
http://www.mlive.com/homeandgarden/i...help_wate.html

Hey Z, sent you pictures and articles on this subject, did ya read or look at any pic`s? Thought is was all blccchtt huh? LolOLolllL

Even signed up on yer mlive message board in hopes to help someone who wrote in about their leaky basement, yep. Signed up, took the dang time to try `n help someone and........within one day my reply was DELETED!

All i did was post facts and article links to try and show person who asked a question, but you/your peeps quickly got rid of my chtt. Must be contrary to what you think/assume.

Mr Z, in this Dec 12 article,among other things you sir state......
...'in almost ALL cases, the BEST way to deal with significant water intrusion is to let it flow to a low point and then pump it out of the house.That describes a subterranean collection and sump system'.

REALLY? Best way to deal with significant water intrusion is to let it in and just pump it back out, let it in,pump her out. Don`t STOP the water intrusion huh. All due respect Mr Z, sure yer dang good HI, father/brother etc but 20 yrs as photographer isn`t quite the same as 20 yrs waterproofing basements and having to guarantee them over long period of time.

Here`s an article you wrote, The Uncurable Soot Mystery
http://www.homeenergy.org/archive/he...98/980512.html
In first paragraph ya say in part, 'If we start falling in love with our own theories, we can get in trouble'.

Sir, please triple-check your theory/thoughts on basement waterproofing.

Installing a sump pump doesn`t 'help waterproof basement walls'.

If water/efflorescence was wicking up from floor then there`s a problem under da floor, try snaking storm trap first,check sump pump etc.

But installing a sump pump cannot waterproof a basement wall.
Those pictures and articles i sent you were meant to help show you how water first enters MANY peoples homes/basements,no harm,just trying to inform so that maybe it would help you......help inform others who write in,have questions w/leaky basements. You and Mr G and others apparently have your own theories on dis subject. Hey, you peeps been hangin out w/Everdry,Insta Dry,Midwest? Dinner er maybe a lil nippy bar action? Just asking.

Sure wish you gents would give a few of us A CHANCE to help inform yer readers/listeners of all the facts,all possibilities as to how-where water can first enter and wind up on the stupid basement floor. Hey Z man, we don`t RIP people off, unlike others who install those inside systems you recommend and say are BEST.

Here`s a couple of many homes who had an INSIDE SYSTEM installed, yup.
Had and still have water/damp spots on walls and in-near corners just like the person in article.
http://www2.snapfish.com/thumbnailsh...6/t_=122238283
Pic`s 1-4 They have MORE efflorescence and some mold since the inside system was put in, know why? Because the incompetent goof balls,the self proclaimed experts didn`t stop the water from where it first enters, outside.

How about this one, the basement walls were RECENTLY PAINTED,inside system installed
http://www2.snapfish.com/thumbnailsh...6/t_=122238283
Same chtt. Water/moisture is STILL entering from the outside through cracks etc on outside of the block walls AND from openings ABOVE the block walls,yes sir.

Divert water? Mudjack slabs? Extend downspout to Upper Peninsula?
How about correctly identifying where the dumb water is allowed to enter and then repairing it.
http://www2.snapfish.com/thumbnailsh...6/t_=122238283
This senor lady was almost BLCCCHTT`D by 2 inside system companies, dang right.
They wanted $10,000++ and told her she had a hydrostatic pressure problem under her basement floor......BLCHHT. Complete incompetence and/or attempt at FRAUD.
Problem was solved for $975.

In almost ALL cases, the BEST WAY to deal with significant water intrusion is to install a subterranean collection and sump system, an Inside system?????
http://www2.snapfish.com/thumbnailsh...6/t_=122238283
See those cracks,open joints on exterior of block wall? Just leave them open?
Leave the soil,weight of soil and/or porch or slabs (which was against wall at back door here) and/or tree roots against the wall? Allow further deterioration of the wall?

Add, MANY continue to incorrectly state shtt like, exterior work is very expensive, costs much more than an inside system. Says who, the inside nitwits?

Listen man, in MOST cases where the homeowner has had these inside twits out for estimates and tell them they need a full perimeter system it would have cost MORE. You people who say this kind of crap wind up screwing us honest mfrs over,alot.Many homeowners believe this shtt and won`t even call for a freakin estimate after hearing this from an HI or Hm Imp show host etc. You fc us over, don`t have many facts,don`t identify most homeowners actual problems and wonder why we get pizzed.


The Good,the Bad and the Ugly/When you have to shoot,shoot.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUslGSoEH8I

Kelly`s Heroes/Maybe he`s a republican
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pykD8...eature=related

Kelly`s Heroes/Negative Waves
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuSts...eature=related

Bernie Madoff, 'credentials seemed impeccable'.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aWXXuHCBi0

Melissa Theuriau/Come to Detroit and tell Johnny Bubba the news
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4CzEmCWSe0

[john bubber]

http://www.fortmorgantimes.com/news/...g-closed-down/
So umm, stop/eliminate water from getting in OR umm, allow it to continue to enter.

http://epa.gov/mold/moldcourse/chapter7/index.html
Some ORG`s recommend inside systems for leaky basements,yup they sure as shtt do.
Well,how about those lovely block basement walls, inside systems don`t stop-eliminate water,moisture that enters through cracks and other exterior openings, and how about those damp spots on basement walls? Nah shtt, they`ll just COVER them up,put some sorta vinyl or other wall covering against part or all of the wall(s).

Epa says, the MOST important action is to ELIMINATE the SOURCE of moisture that caused the mold problem......no matter how good the mold cleanup is, if the water problem is not solved,mold will return. They state, you must have COMPLETELY fixed the water or moisture problem.

Heads up in Springfield Missouri if ya have a leaky basement, apparently another dipstick is on the loose.
http://inferiorbasement.noquirks.com/our_story.html
Too much dumb azz chtt to get into
File date opened June 2008
http://southwestmissouri.bbb.org/WWW...764&firm=29051

Court fight that symbolizes builders` political power drags on for Mansfield couple
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont....66c7dfde.html

Watch that arbitration blcchtttt. Like BBB....
http://us.bbb.org/WWWRoot/SitePage.a...e-eb8481cbf7ad says, when people think of trust they think about the BBB. Not me, but whatever you say just has to be true


Sonia Ferrer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzF2mgZGpDI
Ya know what i think she is saying?
I think she is saying something like, watch out for those who only-mostly install inside systems and those who always recommend them.

[john bubber]

Inside crap....
http://s125.photobucket.com/albums/p...Feb2008005.jpg

http://s125.photobucket.com/albums/p...Feb2008007.jpg


http://s126.photobucket.com/albums/p...t=DSC01512.jpg


http://s292.photobucket.com/albums/m...t=100_0309.jpg


short video
http://www.flickr.com/photos/folksylady/2859722972
Umm, replace da window and repair any/all other possible openings-gaps under,around and above window etc. Yeah sure,clean the dumb gutters. Looks like ya have another leaky area further down,away from this window.Cleaning yer gutt`s isn`t going to solve yer leaks.

IF....there was drywall against this basement wall extending up to bottom of da basement window then one would most likely ONLY see water at,along the cold joint......bottom of wall and floor and could VERY EASILY get BLCHHT`D and told by inside chumps they have some supposed hydrostatic pressure problem under the floor and get talked into an inside system. See this kind of incompetent crap ALL-the-time. But whatever, not many seem to care.


Dude, adding that pretty downspout extension ain`t gonna stop water-moisture-insects from entering possible cracks,loose-cracked parging on the outside of yer block wall(s),and/or through any basement window or openings above grade,no siree.Doesn`t define/identify any possible problem, won`t do shtt if part of problem is humidity problem or problem w/a sump pump either. The GRADE is a lil too high,its up against that basement window and water can certainly enter through that window.Did a realtor etc tell ya the dumb extension will solve part/most of yer problems?
http://s425.photobucket.com/albums/p...=aug_08025.jpg


http://s425.photobucket.com/albums/p...=aug_08019.jpg
'...waiting for waterproofing to be.......applied'
Sure as shtt hope yer not going to apply some garbage on the inside walls hoping it`ll solve any-all problems but its your house, do what ya like.
You SHOULD take the time and find/locate how-where water is first entering. Run a water-test w/a hose to see whether or not ya have exterior cracks etc that allow water to enter.Wouldn`t remodel dogshtt untill any-all problems have been located and repaired


Mr Hamburger, if yer thinking of painting yer walls w/dat, lotsa g dang luck sir.This will be as useful as a snot.
http://s485.photobucket.com/albums/r...proofing-1.jpg
Identify where da water is first entering and fix whatever it is correctly. Painting basement walls doesn`t identify the problem(s) nor will it fix shtt but again, its yer house.
I guess ya might feel better if the walls look freshly painted,look prettier eh.


......da da da, j-hammered trench along wall-floor and added pfffttt,drain tile that runs to sump....even after crack was filled in,if water comes through the wall it`ll run down behind the crap placed against the wall......and you say, 'nice system'?
http://media.photobucket.com/image/s...inArea.jpg?o=5

You ever think that if there`s is only 1 crack,1 leaky area then this leak could have solved on the outside for around $975, this is all many people need. And it`ll STOP water from entering,not allow it to continue to enter and quite possibly CAUSE mold BEHIND that dumb azz wall covering?

http://media.photobucket.com/image/s...0_0690.jpg?o=2

http://media.photobucket.com/image/s...0_0030.jpg?0=4
The idiots do not idenify/determine the real freakin problem, where water first-enters. Nope, just sell the only thing they do which most often costs MORE than the exterior waterproofing needed to actually stop the dumb azz water from entering.

[john bubber]

http://s261.photobucket.com/albums/i...ntWetFloor.jpg
He says, 'basement floor is wet...improper grading,clogged gutters and no sump pump are all contributing factors'.

Really? No chance of any exterior cracks and/or openings around basement windows etc eh?

Leaving yourself wide open to coughing up that inspection fee etc if you tell a homeowner all they need is to add soil etc when they actually have cracks and/or other problems and subsequent work which would FIX da problem.


http://s261.photobucket.com/albums/i...ngBasement.jpg
Sure looks like the perimeter of floor has been cut, inside system.
Here, at least Mr inspector points out cracks/bowing but just because ya may not see any visible cracks on the INSIDE does NOT at all mean there aren`t cracks on the OUTSIDE. Bet that`s why he made grading etc statement in 1st link photo. Don`t they teach ya`s this shtt in those classes?


Crack in basement wall, what ya see that was placed/installed against inside wall? This why more and more inside system chumps are COVERING part or all of the g damn walls, so the homeowners don`t SEE further cracking,cracks widening,mold,efflorescence,damp spots etc.
http://media.photobucket.com/image/b...C02019.jpg?o=5
Many tell homeowners no need for exterior work,just install carbon fiber or wall anchors or beams etc on inside and the wall will NEVER move...............REALLY?

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http://media.photobucket.com/image/s...r191.jpg?o=180
Umm, ya HAD or still have a lil somethin going on there dude. Most likely either gaps on outside of wall where dat-there line enters the wall and/or some sort of leak in da pipe. The inside guru`s will cover all this shtt up, won`t see it when inspecting da basement......doesn`t mean there aren`t on going problem(s).


http://media.photobucket.com/image/s...ment.jpg?o=284
Many inside-dorks will tell many homeowners when called for an estimate that they need an inside system and sump pump when it is NOT at freaking all necessary and will not solve the g damn problems....where the water enters....duh. ProblemSSS here and real solutions are obvious and it has ZIP to do with grading and other incompetent nonsense.

Home inspector is called and PAID to help them, help inform them w/facts,not blchttt.
I`ve been told on this board...many things LolOlllOOOllL.......some include, get off my high horse......i don`t know shtt etc. Well i have some news for SOME of ya`s, on THIS subject it`s some of YOU who dunno jack and are misinforming your clients, yer telling em incompetent blcccht and sooner or later are going to COUGH UP more inspection fees. Yeah, whatever. Hey, those classes/courses some of ya`s take, what qualifications,what hands-on experience do those who make up these tests have on this subject? And then to have HI ORG`s RECOMMEND inside system companies??? Something is fc`d up here and it ain`t Johnny Bubba.

Scumbag inside system salespeople making another $7,000-$20,000 when the homeowners problems are on the outside.
http://s25.photobucket.com/albums/c8...t=100_1087.jpg
Wouldn`t surprise us one bit if some HI recommended an inside here,there and everywhere.
http://s25.photobucket.com/albums/c8...t=100_1090.jpg

http://s25.photobucket.com/albums/c8...t=100_1093.jpg


http://media.photobucket.com/image/b...ntwall.jpg?o=1

'See the light? Thats the outside from in the basement,crack in wall'
http://media.photobucket.com/image/b...0_0430.jpg?o=6
Don`t worry blondie.....the inside guys will conceal dat for ya and the next homeowner.

[Dale Duffy]

Mark, you having a hard time sleeping tonight---:)))

You're letting this waterproofing get the best of ya---:)))

[john bubber]

Mr Dale, how ya doing man?

Well, when MANY people are gettin lied to, cheated outta shttloads of money every single day by those who install inside system and those who recomend them,ya know some HI`s,about ALL Hm Imp radio show hosts etc........ and....... when its fks with our livelihood then, yes sir, it absolutely bothers Johnny B Good.

Posted an article not long ago about Everdry getting into/doing home inspections....yeah,very skeery! Anyways, what if these chumps took over about 80% of ALL Hm Insp`s based on lies/false claims etc and them running constant Tv/radio ads, big azz Yellow Pg ads etc which would obviously put many good-honest HI`s outta business. Those HI`s wouldn`t be too happy, especially when they know people are getting screwed by much less qualified, incompetent sob`s. Know what Bubber means?

Not crying here, just stating some facts......hang in there,ya know Bubba is no writer.....

Think about it, you`ve spent 30 years doing xyz......as as honestly and competently as humanly possible,never fc`g over anyone,not once when it would have been soooo easy to do thousands of times.....like others. And then to watch those az wipes use all that money/millions they made(almost always unnecessary inside systems) and run more and more ads to screw over more and more people and limit the calls ya used to get because they`ve blcchtt many with their false claims,deceptions etc. They`ve blcchttt some HI`s,city insp,engineers,realtors etc etc etc, have many othem of their side,have them thinking everyone on the planet needs an inside system when its pure nonsense.

Those of us who haven`t screwed homeowners, only repair what is really needed or show them they only need some tuckpointing or to replace a basement window and so on, don`t have and will never have all that extra cash we could have RIPPED OFF, like many inside dorks, to get on those Hm Imp shows,run Tv etc ads to show these inside ckksukkers are lying to them. The media wants MONEY, Hm Imp show Hosts/Producers want MONEY.....if ya don`t have the money ya don`t get heard. Pretty much like our corrupt azz politicians and those PAC`s/lobbysists, those who have the cash are the ones listened to,the ones who persuade dumb azz politicians into their needs and way of thinking,not whats best for the most ordinary mfrs like you `n me. Got milk?

Then we have those who write articles on a subject they really don`t know much about, some dunno shtt. How about Haege, how many waterproofing/foundation jobs has he and other supposed guru/bullwinkle types actually done and guaranteed over a long period of time? None. Yet.......we notice their articles/links posted and read and, believed to be true by some HI`s,homeowners etc. Like this guy and his recommendations
http://www.uwex.edu/ces/cty/pepin/fl...sement2004.pdf

NOT intentionally trying to dump on him or anyone else but.....when they state shtt they ain`t true then ........... it AIN`T TRUE! Won`t get into it all but for instance.......

He talks about...
grading,mudjacking slabs.....
THESE things do NOT identify,diagnose the homeowners actual problem(s) nor will they solve those problems like, a crack in the wall or water that first enters through open mortar joints/tuckpointing or, water that enters through a basement window or a need to snake storm trap cleanout etc.

Ya gotta FIND where/how the water is getting in! NOT fc around with grading shtt,sheesh!

He talks about ADDING an additional layer of concrete near/against the house but doesn`t tell ya that ADDING more concrete, the added WEIGHT could/can actaully CAUSE more problems,fkg sure it could. It could cause a crack,cause an existing hairline crack to widen etc. We`ve seen this happen! See what this guy KNOWS/understands versus what Merrill tells ya http://www.helium.com/items/1022235-...d-patio?page=3

Lastly, looks like 3rd last para.....Merrill says,
if water is coming up through wall-floor joint.......then you may need to install an inside drain tile system! Come on....come fcg on.

Capizzo,Stremmy,Geiser,EOF and some other incl`g my ugly azz sees this ALL the time!
90%++ of the time this water that is seen inside, at,along the wall-floor joint is there because water is first entering from the outside, rarely a problem under the floor and need for an inside system. And that 10%.......many of them ONLY need to SNAKE the storm trap cleanout or get new sump or adjust pump or drill holes in pit wall, just under the thickness of the basement floor to allow possibly water build up under the floor to get in

Part of what we`re saying is, why do sooo many seemingly smart people read and believe shtt from those who`ve NEVER done the freakin job....and done it honestly. 30 years of DOING the job versus what? No customer complaints versus how many from inside bozos?
As i say, somethin is fc`d up here, thus the rants....honest rants at that.

Start yer day watchin` a mother RHINO giving birth
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nh2iy...eature=related

Everyone loves a SLINKY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltwxC...eature=related

[john bubber]

Quite a few seem to think longer downspout extensions,raising `n sloping the grade,filing in some low spots etc will SOLVE MOST leaky basements.
See links above `n elsewhere who claim this trash.

Shall we watch it rain? Yawnnnnnn
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDVcu...eature=related
Rain is droppin` outta the sky all over da place,its umm landing all over,soaking the ground all around dah house, not just coming off the dumb roof,into downspouts.

Rain. Oh, now some call it a 'rain event'. What the fc is a rain-event?
It`s........raining ya morons.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4lew...eature=related

Is the ground around the house getting wet? Will it,can it get soaked/saturated on longer,heavier rains REGARDLESS of how long your downspout extensions are? What if you raised and sloped the grade? Ya really think your keeping all water,all subsurface water away? SHTT.
What if you filled in some stupid low spots in yard, don`t think the subsoil gets wet/soaked?

This says, How to use downspout extenders to PROTECT your foundation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2N4cMJv4_E
Dear Ron,
Rain can-will soak the ground/soil along a basement wall sir,sheesh K.
It`s falling out of the sky sir, alll around the house,along and next to the basement walls.
Do i have this right sir? That 5-6' 'extender' is going to save/protect my basement wall? Really! Well glory be.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpBcAyjedVI
Umm duh, 15-20 second mark, its uh raining, raining on porch,along front wall/bush,soil is getting soaked no matter how long yer 'extenders' are. Tell ya, these kind of recommendations and statements that longer downspouts etc can SOLVE 80-90% of all wet,damp,leaky basements is weak Blllchttt.

30 second mark in vid, would it help to have an extension here? Sure.
It could help prevent or limit gaps between porch/house or underground-voids but a porch could still pull away due to other possibilities like no footing or footing not deep/wide enough or from expanding-contracting soil/roots etc.

http://www2.snapfish.com/thumbnailsh...6/t_=122238283
Pic`s 19,20 Is this homeowners grade sloped away enough for ya?

All due respect Mr Tom, last para....ya say 99% of all leaky basements can be solved by longer downspout extensions,raising/sloping grade etc. 20 Yrs as HI right?
http://realestate.aol.com/article/im...18213409990001




And quit messing w/the dang squirrels in downspouts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMoMWX06im0

[john bubber]

Johnny Bubber`s,
Wide World of Waterproofing.......spanning the internet to bring you a variety of CRAP. The thrill of victory and the agony of a wet-moldy basement. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8VPHUvCHHI

4th question/answer... http://www.stratfordbeaconherald.com...aspx?e=1364991
.....bought Cape Cod brick house w/finished basement,supposedly no signs of water/leak in basement upon inspection.Within a week of moving in they get water in basement....at front corner.Homeowner puts up new GUTTERS and does some GRADING......still leaks.

Another storm and gets water in again.....same area, at corner. Has plumber come over and installs a sump pump. They find mold behind paneling/drywall/whatever.....asks will sump solve problem.

NOBODY has yet IDENTIFIED the actual problem! Gotta take the time and find/locate where-how the water is FIRST ENTERING, sheesh Kristmas.

Playing with the GRADE and adding 666 mile long downspout extensions and installing the sump pump has NOT....identified how water is getting in.

Run a water test, ground level down first. If water begings to enter you`ve found/identified part or all of your problem and waterproof the CORNER on the outside, not the entire wall.

If ya run a water test and no water enters then problem/opening(s) will be from ground level UP,find `em and fix `em correctly.Could be open mortar joints,loose-cracked bricks,openings/gaps around ANY g dang window,around doors etc etc etc.

IF.....you ONLY see water UP HIGH on basement wall then the problem will be either, exterior opening(s) between the grade and roof and/or opening(s) just below ground level.....could be a combination, prolly NOT a crack in wall.

Many g dang times, have listened to homeowners who say they recently bought a house and were told to raise and slope the grade,extend downspouts to city hall and doing this shtt will solve their leak,some rookies who recommend this crap tells people it`ll solve 80-90% of all-any leaky basements...... blchtt,bllchttt,blcchttt!

Adding soil/grading,long downspouts,painting the inside of the dumb basement walls etc has NOT identified where-how water is getting in NOR does this CRAP fix/repair/waterproof/tuckpoint/snake anything!

Some would have recommended to this homeowner to have an INSIDE system w/sump installed.....more incompetent junk.THAT junk would NOT have identified this homeowners problem nor would it have stopped/eliminated the water from entering and any mold,efflorescence.

This IS....what OFTEN happens. People dunno who the fc to call or call the dumb azz`z they see on Tv or hear doing radio home imp shows or, will call the chumps who have 1/2 or full page Yellow Pg ads....the inside twerps.OR....they may find and watch a NachiTv video where somebody claims all they have to do is paint the wall.

Pink Floyd/Comfortably Numb
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWnapx502uQ

[john bubber]

Monday Night Waterproofing Theme
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOmcL...eature=related

Elderly lady in ILL gettin` water in basement, see water running down paneling around :30 mark http://www.wrex.com/Global/story.asp?S=9585562 ...Samatha,if yer not doing anything this weekend, call the Bubberman 1-800-got milk

Dear Ms Helen,
PART or....ALL of your problems are exterior openings above ground/grade level...anything between roof and grade AND/OR, openings below grade....yep, some have a combination.

Have someone find/locate the exteriors openings that are allowing the water to enter and you it running down the paneling and onto the basement floor.They may need to do a water-test....more difficult ta do in middle of winter,sorry,not what ya wanna hear,just the truth. Do NOT call any nitwit inside system company,nooooo maam.

Find `em all and have `em all repaired correctly so you don`t have to go through this shtt again in the future. Don`t mean adding soil and sloping it away,not longer downspouts....nope.

You may think.....it may appear the ground is frozen and in some areas this may well be the case BUTTTT, where water is sitting,where snow is thawing, those areas of soil underneath can thaw out. Water can also wick,percolate,travel sideways underneath a raised or frozen grade and enter the basement through any exterior openings like cracks,rod holes etc or openings just below/along the grade like unprotected bricks,open mortar joints just below grade,gaps just below basement window sills,doors etc etc.

Say again, find someone who is willing to take some time and LOCATE/identify the exterior opening(s) that are allowing the water to enter, this is part or all of your problem.

She might also have something else going on like a floor drain that needs to be snaked or the storm trap cleanout.

Don`t just have some water removal company come out, they aren`t going to SOLVE anything, they will do their job and clean up the water but you will still leak in future under same circumstances if ya don`t find and fix the actual problems.

The water running down the paneling has ZERO ta do with any need for a sump pump,extending downspouts,painting the walls,snaking etc. She could have/get some mold behind the paneling as well.

-Keep plugging away at stopping basement leaks
http://www.newsday.com/features/home...0,669335.story

2 different problem areas,something going on around,under,above a window well and where concrete patio is.

The basement leak where patio is outside, what does homeowner see? Is water running down the wall from up high? Is there paneling against this part of wall?

Same shtt, either has a crack in wall or other opening in wall below the concrete (waterproof this area) and/or opening(s) from ground level up,above the patio (tuckpointing,basement window etc), and/or a possible blockage between house/basement and the street(snake etc)

Find the problem,the opening(s) and fix em correctly.
Doing any-all the inexpensive things does NOT identify/locate where the dumb water is allowed to enter nor does it waterproof a possibly crack or plug possible rod holes or tuckpoint possible open mortar joints etc so, forget that SHTT. And FORGET the 'digging around exterior of patio and putting in drainage system', sheesh.

Window well, same thing.....find/locate where-how the water actually enters....and fix/repair whatever the opening(s) turns out ta be. Placing the pipe in the ground,in the well to supposedly act as some sort of dry well as he says is wishful thinking, it doesn`t find/locate where the water is allowed to enter. QUIT PLAYING water diversion games. If yer getting/see water up high then the exterior opening(s) will be from that point UP.

Hollies/Look through any window
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJVbXtGUHu4

Hollies/Long cool woman
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7WSy-0CdPM

Hollies/Carrie Anne
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTYWiCqU-ZQ

Hollies/Long dark road
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nR28rQ5H1UE

[john bubber]

Yo Ed,
All due respect man but your a plumber,thats where your expertise is,not waterproofing/foundation work.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3JyWIOyR2Q
The FIRST thing people should do but most don`t is, locate/determine how-where the lousy water is getting in and umm, then fix it correctly.

Says, 'Wet Basements Causes'....killer G`s,gutters,grading,ground water.
Shtt come on man!!!

Sir Ed, longer downspout extensions,splashblocks etc etc does not determine how-where the water is allowed to enter nor will diverting some surface-water fix/repair anything....whatever the actual problem(s) is. Diverting SOME surface water away doesn`t keep all sub-surface water away from the entire DEPTH of a basement wall

This homeowner like many TRIED a bunch of crap,put lots of tar where driveway meets the house,longer extensions etc....as i say this doesn`t do squat. http://www2.snapfish.com/thumbnailsh...6/t_=122238283
Pic 2 should be able to see at left of step where they put lots of tar, they did this along entire wall/drive.

Vid, how about this homeowner
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWgajLKTSis
Water coming in....under/around basement windows.
Around 1:15 mark she says something like....'we might have to install drainage pipes'. Noooo Maam! You NEED to FIND,LOCATE and then FIX any-all openings/gaps etc.... UNDER,around and possibly INBETWEEN those glass blocks,the joints and sometimes through that vent....thats right. Putting in 900' of drainage pipe around house and/or by windows doesn`t seal the openings where water is allowed to enter. Insects can enter through these same openings/gaps. And that sump pump cover may be allowing RADON to enter yer basement


Selma Hayek, From Dusk Till Dawn
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWhx2...eature=related
...Selma, Johnny Bub doesn`t 'do' dogshtt or toes/feet but he does fix leaky cracks, have any? Still have that free digging shovel for ya! OOPS, guess its SALMA,so sorry baby, maybe thats why ya haven`t called,got milk?
Salma dancin` http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQKjC...eature=related