something else to chew on

[john bubber]

-Bridgetown man says company won`t fix leaky basement.
Inside system blccchtttt,ya really should stop STOP recommending these incompetent,fraudlulent companies.
What ORG`s recommend these misfits?
Homeowners, hold these thieves accountable!
http://www.local12.com/content/troub...Rn1BLd2JQ.cspx

http://www.local12.com/mediacenter/l...com&navCatId=9

[john bubber]

Warren MI
http://www2.snapfish.com/thumbnailsh...6/t_=122238283

1.Some inside system dorks might try and BS homeowners and tell there isn`t enough room to excavate....just more nonense as one can see.

2.Basement leaks in this area only,under da winder and a lil to the left.
They ONLY get/see water at,along the FLOOR-WALL joint,there is paneling
against wall inside.

4-6. Wide open rod holes waaay up high. This is PART of the problem/where water first enters and then runs down the wall behind the paneling. See that lil dab of tar over some rod holes? Nowhere near enough to last `n keep water,insects etc out.

7-10. Openings ABOVE ground level,above the wall. Water enters through these as well,yep. On those wind blown rains.

12,13. Hairline vertical crack and yes, it does indeed allow quite a bit of water to enter behind the paneling.

17. Dug out, see footing? Gotta dig all-the-way down,can`t just dig 1-2' deep.Most vertical,diagonal and step cracks go all the way down.

21. Sometimes there will also be some openings/gaps right-cheer. Gotta find and seal `em all and umm, inside system dorks don`t do this.

22,23. Exterior drain tiles and yet again they are free `n clear.One can also run water into/through these tiles and see if these or other adjoining tiles are ducky or not.Same thing can be done with the T-tile/bleeder as some wanna call it.Regardless of the condtion of exterior tiles, they have nothing to do with water/rain that enters through cracks,loose-cracked parging,rod holes,openings around basement windows,mortar joints etc.
Got milk?

The Beatles/Nowhere Man,live in Munich `66
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRv34Cat3Vw
..'he `s as blind as he can be, just see`s what he wants to see,
Inside system man can you see anything at all...'

[john bubber]

--The Crumbling Of America, 2 hour documentary
http://www.history.com/shows.do?epis...&action=detail

Bits `n pieces in documentary....
Warwarsing NY,flooding-seepage in basements,ecoli etc.
Delaware Aqueduct cracks/leaks as much as 35 million gallons DAILY.

Piers of bridges cracked,deteriorated....i-95 by downtown Philadelphia,
holes in beams,almost collapsed. Interstate system weakening.
2/3 of busiest roads are 40+ years old.
I-64 in St Louis worn out,water gets in cracks in concrete CAUSING
wider cracks and holes.

Idaho,Teton Dam....crack occurred.
About 85,000 dams in U.S....average age 51 years.

Wolf Creek Dam KY.....built on porous limestone.
Possible failure within 5 years.

California,levee`s and earthquakes, could cut off 1/2 of states water supply....Levee foundations poorly built,on sand.
CA has no plans and no money to repair.

Power Grid....teetering on the brink....2003 blackout.
Grid is aging and overwhelmed.
Deerfield Illinois,since 2000 has had 1,400 blackouts.


Aging sewer systems......cracks,riddled with leaks CAUSING backups
in homes.
STL, combined sewer system maxes-out when it rains,sometimes
on just 1/10 of an inch of rain,highly polluted.

Some homeowners get water/sewage under and on the basement floor
due to THIS kind of chtt,its the CITY`S PROBLEM,source can be beyond
homeowners property so, an inside system w/sump doesn`t SOLVE/REPAIR
that problem,that source.Ya still can/will have water-sewage under basement floor even if you spend $7,000-17,000 and install an inside system.

Water coming from city pipes can move/travel/percolate underground
and wind up under basement floors,with or without an inside system.
Tearing up 12-18" of inside perimeter floor doesn`t keep all water-sewage
from getting under the floor due to city problem.What about those
homeowners who have crack(s) in floor,further away from where an inside
system was put in,or some can have thinly poured areas of floor.Water
can still come UP here,inside systems don`t cover this chtt.

Something like this homeowner in Iowa.....spent $20,000 on inside system
and new basement floor,still leaks.
http://www.wqad.com/news/wqad-davenp...,6661976.story

http://www.wqad.com/news/wqad-davenp...,2580258.story

Spend all ya like.....but if ya don`t correctly & honestly IDENTIFY where
the actual problem(s) are then ya just may be out $5,000-$20,000 and
still have same problems......got MILK?

[john bubber]

They recently bought this house,previous owner was bsd/misled etc into
installing an inside system with sump.See the crap-sheeting that was attached to the lower blocks http://www2.snapfish.com/thumbnailsh...283_111847456/


There was and still is exterior cracks in block wall.Vertical,horizontal and
step cracks......some (not all) of these exterior cracks are visible inside.

The vertical and horizontal cracks ya see have widened a bit since they
bought house and have repeatedly tried cleaning the mold off the walls.

Pic`s 1-4....
The corner has a 2-part problem.That sewer line/pipe has some sort of
crack/hole/break in it where the pipe passes through the wall AND,there
are exterior cracks in the corner that allow water to enter into the blocks and comes out inside at floor-wall joint.

Homeowner has 6 yr old son who has asthma,the mold isn`t going away
until the water that enters through the wall (and pipe) is stopped.

The cracks/wall should have been waterproofed on the outside but the inside system morons ONLY install inside systems of course,so thats what they talked the previous homeowner into.....as usual.

Yep,the money that was spent on the inside system should have been spent on exterior waterproofing which would have STOPPED the water from coming in through the exterior cracks and would have removed the clay off the wall (and any underground roots off wall) which would have lessened the lateral pressure against the wall.

Pics 9-19
Part-of back wall done before,visqueen and tar was pulled down a bit
because they backfilled w/same excavated clay soil.They should have
gone around the corner 12-18" because there is a corner crack that allowed water to enter the blocks which then came out inside along floor-wall joint.

BOTH homeowners tried painting the inside wall w/drylok.....what good did it do? Nada/zip. If part or all of the problem/reason water is entering is due to cracks then ya better be waterproofing these cracks on the outside,not installing an interior water-diverting system and not painting
the lousy wall.

Another inside system installed when it should NOT have been which is about 99% of the time! There are exterior cracks and probably loose-cracked parging on the outside of the wall.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lindsey...7621487427019/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lindsey...7621487427019/

[john bubber]

Back porch,block walls....leak,shifting in/deteriorating.Beams inside. http://www2.snapfish.com/thumbnailsh...283_111847456/

Pics 1-9 ummm, see beamers? Yeah,they could/might help support a wall where-they-are-placed-against a wall but they do not relieve/lessen any exterior cause(s) such as lateral soil pressure,roots against wall,porch footing etc.Walls have already lost x-amount of lateral strength and there will be cracks,loose-cracked parging on the outside of these block walls that have bowed in.

A contractor supposedly did something on the outside years ago,don`t know exactly what.Did they dig it all the way down? Some do not.
Did they backfill w/all gravel or did they backfill with part-all of the excavated clay soil? And did they waterproof or damproof these walls,it does matter.

Some settling has occurred on the patio side,this can-could cause some more pressure against the wall.Roots may have grown back along/against one or more of these walls,3 big daddy trees in back.

Pic 10 the corner before ya walk under porch,leaks.Some efflorescence and a lil mold.There could be an exterior corner crack...there are some open mortar joints above grade....thats at least part of the problem.

11-13 side wall,verical and horizontal cracks.Wall is pushed in a bit,see top of first blocks off the floor.Piers/carbon straps or more beams are NOT going to relieve/lessen any exterior lateral soil pressure or roots and if an inside system was installed it would not do squat in relieving any exterior pressure and will not waterproof the exterior cracks! Sheesh.

Many have finished basements,paneling-drywall against basement walls so
they have no idea of the condition of the wall.If finished,they`ll see water at-along floor-wall joint and often be told by inside system morons they have a hydrostatic pressure problem under DUH floor when the problem is MOST often on the outside.Some HO`s do have a problem under the floor/between the floor and street,could be a CITY-PROBLEM and/or could be a blockage in the lateral line,would just need to snake it.Some may have to replace part/all of the lateral line due to the pipe settling/cracking etc.....all this has NOTHING to do with a blchtt-supposed-need for any inside system!!

If i was a crook/incompetent and blcchttd homeowners into inside systems all these years,i too could then afford to FURTHER benefit my own azz and advertise on TV/radio/big Yellow pg ads etc.I`d be a rich trouser-stained moron too.As it is,i just have stained trousers! Got MILK???

[john bubber]

Vid--Alexandria Man Has Problem With Company Fixing Foundation
http://www.local12.com/content/troub...OGoe0h3MQ.cspx

Says/claims....'house has been settling'....which SUPPOSEDLY caused
numerous cracks. Are ya sure? Just because there are cracks in basement
wall(s) and/or in brickwork does NOT necessarily mean the
'house is SETTLING'.

Cracks can occur or......widen, and then possibly cause cracks in bricks
due to OTHER causes.Some are lateral soil pressure,roots,porch footings,
underground vibrations etc etc. Seems many are often bs`d by those
who sell piers etc and are constantly told the problem/cracks is due to
settling.
http://www.lrb.usace.army.mil/Amhers...os/photos.html

First mistake shown in vid is whoever piled that soil on grass and next-to
trenches,not very smart.Gonna backfillw/that crap too?

No, we can`t see all that needs to be seen,cracks etc etc,have to eyeball
entire situation onsite but again,many are bs`d into piers `n stuff they
do not need,that will not help.
First couple paragraphs here....
http://www.archicentre.com.au/surviv...king_brick.pdf
..."Unfortunately LACK of knowledge can lead to the adoption of unnecessarily expensive treatments which may be suggested by firms biased in favour of using their own patented and profitable 'cures'."

Around 1:05--1:20 along one wall,can see crack at corner and cracked
brickwork. Don`t see any cracked/dropped footing and we get a pretty good look but doesn`t mean there isn`t, again hard to say fer sure from hundreds of miles away got milk?

Then we see that weak-sorry-flexible-plastic perforated drain tile,
it`s garbage.

And ummm,don`t see any hydraulic cement or mastic/tar,visqueen.
Just going to leave the crack(s).........open? lolol
AND backfill with same excavated soil? Holy incompetent chtt.

This lady almost got bs`d,was told her house was settling and in order to fix the supposed settling she needed piers/underpinning for $$$$$$$.
http://www2.snapfish.com/thumbnailsh...283_111847456/

See step crack in bricks. This occurred because the basement wall cracked,NOT the dumb footing/no settling! Took several pic`s of the footing,no problems. This job was done a lil more than a year ago,no
further problem(s).....and won`t be because there wasn`t any settling problem to begin with,crooks.

Did beams stop walls from bowing in,stop cracks from widening? Nope.
http://www2.snapfish.com/thumbnailsh...283_111847456/


David Gilmour live in Gdansk/A Great Day For Freedom
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HmC-RgTECE