something else to chew on

[john bubber]

-Bridgetown man says company won`t fix leaky basement.
Inside system blccchtttt,ya really should stop STOP recommending these incompetent,fraudlulent companies.
What ORG`s recommend these misfits?
Homeowners, hold these thieves accountable!
http://www.local12.com/content/troub...Rn1BLd2JQ.cspx

http://www.local12.com/mediacenter/l...com&navCatId=9

[john bubber]

Warren MI
http://www2.snapfish.com/thumbnailsh...6/t_=122238283

1.Some inside system dorks might try and BS homeowners and tell there isn`t enough room to excavate....just more nonense as one can see.

2.Basement leaks in this area only,under da winder and a lil to the left.
They ONLY get/see water at,along the FLOOR-WALL joint,there is paneling
against wall inside.

4-6. Wide open rod holes waaay up high. This is PART of the problem/where water first enters and then runs down the wall behind the paneling. See that lil dab of tar over some rod holes? Nowhere near enough to last `n keep water,insects etc out.

7-10. Openings ABOVE ground level,above the wall. Water enters through these as well,yep. On those wind blown rains.

12,13. Hairline vertical crack and yes, it does indeed allow quite a bit of water to enter behind the paneling.

17. Dug out, see footing? Gotta dig all-the-way down,can`t just dig 1-2' deep.Most vertical,diagonal and step cracks go all the way down.

21. Sometimes there will also be some openings/gaps right-cheer. Gotta find and seal `em all and umm, inside system dorks don`t do this.

22,23. Exterior drain tiles and yet again they are free `n clear.One can also run water into/through these tiles and see if these or other adjoining tiles are ducky or not.Same thing can be done with the T-tile/bleeder as some wanna call it.Regardless of the condtion of exterior tiles, they have nothing to do with water/rain that enters through cracks,loose-cracked parging,rod holes,openings around basement windows,mortar joints etc.
Got milk?

The Beatles/Nowhere Man,live in Munich `66
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRv34Cat3Vw
..'he `s as blind as he can be, just see`s what he wants to see,
Inside system man can you see anything at all...'

[john bubber]

--The Crumbling Of America, 2 hour documentary
http://www.history.com/shows.do?epis...&action=detail

Bits `n pieces in documentary....
Warwarsing NY,flooding-seepage in basements,ecoli etc.
Delaware Aqueduct cracks/leaks as much as 35 million gallons DAILY.

Piers of bridges cracked,deteriorated....i-95 by downtown Philadelphia,
holes in beams,almost collapsed. Interstate system weakening.
2/3 of busiest roads are 40+ years old.
I-64 in St Louis worn out,water gets in cracks in concrete CAUSING
wider cracks and holes.

Idaho,Teton Dam....crack occurred.
About 85,000 dams in U.S....average age 51 years.

Wolf Creek Dam KY.....built on porous limestone.
Possible failure within 5 years.

California,levee`s and earthquakes, could cut off 1/2 of states water supply....Levee foundations poorly built,on sand.
CA has no plans and no money to repair.

Power Grid....teetering on the brink....2003 blackout.
Grid is aging and overwhelmed.
Deerfield Illinois,since 2000 has had 1,400 blackouts.


Aging sewer systems......cracks,riddled with leaks CAUSING backups
in homes.
STL, combined sewer system maxes-out when it rains,sometimes
on just 1/10 of an inch of rain,highly polluted.

Some homeowners get water/sewage under and on the basement floor
due to THIS kind of chtt,its the CITY`S PROBLEM,source can be beyond
homeowners property so, an inside system w/sump doesn`t SOLVE/REPAIR
that problem,that source.Ya still can/will have water-sewage under basement floor even if you spend $7,000-17,000 and install an inside system.

Water coming from city pipes can move/travel/percolate underground
and wind up under basement floors,with or without an inside system.
Tearing up 12-18" of inside perimeter floor doesn`t keep all water-sewage
from getting under the floor due to city problem.What about those
homeowners who have crack(s) in floor,further away from where an inside
system was put in,or some can have thinly poured areas of floor.Water
can still come UP here,inside systems don`t cover this chtt.

Something like this homeowner in Iowa.....spent $20,000 on inside system
and new basement floor,still leaks.
http://www.wqad.com/news/wqad-davenp...,6661976.story

http://www.wqad.com/news/wqad-davenp...,2580258.story

Spend all ya like.....but if ya don`t correctly & honestly IDENTIFY where
the actual problem(s) are then ya just may be out $5,000-$20,000 and
still have same problems......got MILK?

[john bubber]

They recently bought this house,previous owner was bsd/misled etc into
installing an inside system with sump.See the crap-sheeting that was attached to the lower blocks http://www2.snapfish.com/thumbnailsh...283_111847456/


There was and still is exterior cracks in block wall.Vertical,horizontal and
step cracks......some (not all) of these exterior cracks are visible inside.

The vertical and horizontal cracks ya see have widened a bit since they
bought house and have repeatedly tried cleaning the mold off the walls.

Pic`s 1-4....
The corner has a 2-part problem.That sewer line/pipe has some sort of
crack/hole/break in it where the pipe passes through the wall AND,there
are exterior cracks in the corner that allow water to enter into the blocks and comes out inside at floor-wall joint.

Homeowner has 6 yr old son who has asthma,the mold isn`t going away
until the water that enters through the wall (and pipe) is stopped.

The cracks/wall should have been waterproofed on the outside but the inside system morons ONLY install inside systems of course,so thats what they talked the previous homeowner into.....as usual.

Yep,the money that was spent on the inside system should have been spent on exterior waterproofing which would have STOPPED the water from coming in through the exterior cracks and would have removed the clay off the wall (and any underground roots off wall) which would have lessened the lateral pressure against the wall.

Pics 9-19
Part-of back wall done before,visqueen and tar was pulled down a bit
because they backfilled w/same excavated clay soil.They should have
gone around the corner 12-18" because there is a corner crack that allowed water to enter the blocks which then came out inside along floor-wall joint.

BOTH homeowners tried painting the inside wall w/drylok.....what good did it do? Nada/zip. If part or all of the problem/reason water is entering is due to cracks then ya better be waterproofing these cracks on the outside,not installing an interior water-diverting system and not painting
the lousy wall.

Another inside system installed when it should NOT have been which is about 99% of the time! There are exterior cracks and probably loose-cracked parging on the outside of the wall.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lindsey...7621487427019/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lindsey...7621487427019/

[john bubber]

Back porch,block walls....leak,shifting in/deteriorating.Beams inside. http://www2.snapfish.com/thumbnailsh...283_111847456/

Pics 1-9 ummm, see beamers? Yeah,they could/might help support a wall where-they-are-placed-against a wall but they do not relieve/lessen any exterior cause(s) such as lateral soil pressure,roots against wall,porch footing etc.Walls have already lost x-amount of lateral strength and there will be cracks,loose-cracked parging on the outside of these block walls that have bowed in.

A contractor supposedly did something on the outside years ago,don`t know exactly what.Did they dig it all the way down? Some do not.
Did they backfill w/all gravel or did they backfill with part-all of the excavated clay soil? And did they waterproof or damproof these walls,it does matter.

Some settling has occurred on the patio side,this can-could cause some more pressure against the wall.Roots may have grown back along/against one or more of these walls,3 big daddy trees in back.

Pic 10 the corner before ya walk under porch,leaks.Some efflorescence and a lil mold.There could be an exterior corner crack...there are some open mortar joints above grade....thats at least part of the problem.

11-13 side wall,verical and horizontal cracks.Wall is pushed in a bit,see top of first blocks off the floor.Piers/carbon straps or more beams are NOT going to relieve/lessen any exterior lateral soil pressure or roots and if an inside system was installed it would not do squat in relieving any exterior pressure and will not waterproof the exterior cracks! Sheesh.

Many have finished basements,paneling-drywall against basement walls so
they have no idea of the condition of the wall.If finished,they`ll see water at-along floor-wall joint and often be told by inside system morons they have a hydrostatic pressure problem under DUH floor when the problem is MOST often on the outside.Some HO`s do have a problem under the floor/between the floor and street,could be a CITY-PROBLEM and/or could be a blockage in the lateral line,would just need to snake it.Some may have to replace part/all of the lateral line due to the pipe settling/cracking etc.....all this has NOTHING to do with a blchtt-supposed-need for any inside system!!

If i was a crook/incompetent and blcchttd homeowners into inside systems all these years,i too could then afford to FURTHER benefit my own azz and advertise on TV/radio/big Yellow pg ads etc.I`d be a rich trouser-stained moron too.As it is,i just have stained trousers! Got MILK???

[john bubber]

Vid--Alexandria Man Has Problem With Company Fixing Foundation
http://www.local12.com/content/troub...OGoe0h3MQ.cspx

Says/claims....'house has been settling'....which SUPPOSEDLY caused
numerous cracks. Are ya sure? Just because there are cracks in basement
wall(s) and/or in brickwork does NOT necessarily mean the
'house is SETTLING'.

Cracks can occur or......widen, and then possibly cause cracks in bricks
due to OTHER causes.Some are lateral soil pressure,roots,porch footings,
underground vibrations etc etc. Seems many are often bs`d by those
who sell piers etc and are constantly told the problem/cracks is due to
settling.
http://www.lrb.usace.army.mil/Amhers...os/photos.html

First mistake shown in vid is whoever piled that soil on grass and next-to
trenches,not very smart.Gonna backfillw/that crap too?

No, we can`t see all that needs to be seen,cracks etc etc,have to eyeball
entire situation onsite but again,many are bs`d into piers `n stuff they
do not need,that will not help.
First couple paragraphs here....
http://www.archicentre.com.au/surviv...king_brick.pdf
..."Unfortunately LACK of knowledge can lead to the adoption of unnecessarily expensive treatments which may be suggested by firms biased in favour of using their own patented and profitable 'cures'."

Around 1:05--1:20 along one wall,can see crack at corner and cracked
brickwork. Don`t see any cracked/dropped footing and we get a pretty good look but doesn`t mean there isn`t, again hard to say fer sure from hundreds of miles away got milk?

Then we see that weak-sorry-flexible-plastic perforated drain tile,
it`s garbage.

And ummm,don`t see any hydraulic cement or mastic/tar,visqueen.
Just going to leave the crack(s).........open? lolol
AND backfill with same excavated soil? Holy incompetent chtt.

This lady almost got bs`d,was told her house was settling and in order to fix the supposed settling she needed piers/underpinning for $$$$$$$.
http://www2.snapfish.com/thumbnailsh...283_111847456/

See step crack in bricks. This occurred because the basement wall cracked,NOT the dumb footing/no settling! Took several pic`s of the footing,no problems. This job was done a lil more than a year ago,no
further problem(s).....and won`t be because there wasn`t any settling problem to begin with,crooks.

Did beams stop walls from bowing in,stop cracks from widening? Nope.
http://www2.snapfish.com/thumbnailsh...283_111847456/


David Gilmour live in Gdansk/A Great Day For Freedom
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HmC-RgTECE

[john bubber]

Inside system moron asks `n answers,
"Can you stop water? .....No you can`t"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQ5m-zXkpbU

You idiot! YOU people can`t stop water,not with your cheap O
blcchtt inside water diverting systems.

LOOK at the basement wall(s).
See them COVERING/hiding the basement wall?
SUE sue sue sue sue sue incompetent CHEATS like THIS!

They have MISDIAGNOSED how-where the water is entering....HELLO!!!!!!!
$20,000 freakin grand and they have NOT....STOPPED water from
where the HLLL its entering.

Truly amazing how some reporters,city inspectors etc actually believe
this CRAP is 'waterproofing'. They need a big swift kick in the azz as well.

Dave and some others GET IT
http://www.nachi.org/forum/f23/basem...-system-42321/
Whoever installed the inside system here covered the first couple
BLOCKS....the chumps from Omni and some other inside co`s will COVER
the ENTIRE wall.

Say again, covering the walls with this blccchttt is hiding the CONDITION
of the walls! HELLO!!!!!!!! It`ll HIDE mold,efflorescence,cracks or cracks
that WILL WIDEN or the possibility of a wall BOWING IN!
NONE of this MATTERS?
And.............inside systems CREATE more openings for RADON to enter
a basement,ever think of this?



Bill Murray/Underwear
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYiSxkrqMgM

Caddyshack/Carl loves the ladies...got milk?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JObTM...eature=related

[john bubber]

Interior water-diverting systems/companies who hide the condition of part or all of the basement walls
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zvxe...e=channel_page

Not all exterior-cracks appear on inside block walls and loose-cracked
parging on the outside wall(s) cannot be seen inside.Mold,efflorescence,
cracks,bowed wall will be concealed when these inside goofs install
attach sheeting against walls.And what the possibily of radon gas?
It can/will enter through the exterior cracks inside systems leave OPEN but also up through the gaps/openings seen here :25 mark
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pkw8NKSH7c4

Many inside system companies alo drill holes in bottom blocks........
holes are left open.Radon can enter through these holes as well.

Covering the basement walls w/sheeting etc will hide the following
http://activerain.com/blogsview/3063...y-bowing-walls
One sentence claims....'there are a multitude of fixes....most common is
pier system'....later it claims carbon fiber accomplishes similar results.

When a wall is bowing in due to lateral soil pressure/roots/porch footing etc there are NOT 'a multitude of fixes'.
Piers,carbon fiber etc does not remove/relieve/lessen exterior pressure-weight.

And the cracks,loose-cracked parging on the outside is still OPEN.
Inside clowns do NOT repair/waterproof any exterior cracks etc! Sheesh.

The 3rd guy seems to be the only one who gets SOME of this.

http://www2.snapfish.com/slideshow/A...283_111847456/

http://www2.snapfish.com/slideshow/A...283_111847456/

When they cover the entire wall you ain`t gonna see any cracks,mold etc.

They are not removing the soil or possible exterior ROOTS that caused exterior cracks and subsequent leaks
http://www2.snapfish.com/slideshow/A...283_111847456/

http://www2.snapfish.com/slideshow/A...283_111847456/

So its OK to leave exterior cracks OPEN?
It`s OK to allow water to continue to enter the blocks?
Don`t remove/relieve the cause(s) of the crack(s),bowed wall?

Here`s a homeowner who has crack widening,still leaks.....he removed
the vinyl sheeting crap off part of wall
http://www2.snapfish.com/slideshow/A...283_298047025/

Covering/concealing existing defects not a good idea,can get ya sued

[john bubber]

House for sale,leaky basement in 2 areas. At the end of the street is Lake
St Clair and behind the house is a canal...for their boats.Inside system dorks told them they supposedly have a hydrostatic pressure problem under the basement floor and that this house and all homes in SCS are in
a high-water-table area...........nonsense,total crap!
http://www2.snapfish.com/thumbnailsh...283_111847456/

Problem-leaky areas are on both sides of front porch.

Pics 2-8 homeowner had some previous work done to porch,poured concrete against porch footing but some of that concrete wound up against corner of basement wall,not good.

Clay soil,hard as a rock.....or as Bob Seger sang,'Like a ROCK'.
See any WATER pooling/puddling at-along footing or anywhere else?
Nope. Just because there is a canal right behind houses and Lake St.
Clair at end of block does NOT at all mean its a high water table area.

Water was entering the exterior blocks-wall through those cracks and was then seen inside the basement along the floor-wall joint.

The corner crack was not visible on inside, only one hairline vertical
crack was visible on the inside and that was a little hard to see because
walls were painted.Bottom line,inside system nitwits are full of crap,lie and are incompetent and they wanted MUCH more $$$ than what was truly needed to FIX the actual problems that were on the outside.


Next, house in Grosse Pointe,leaks in one area at floor-wall joint
http://www2.snapfish.com/thumbnailsh...283_111847456/
Ran water test with a hose to show them how-where the water was FIRST entering,it came in at floor-wall joint within 5 minutes.They too were told by inside chumps they have supposed hydrostatic pressure problem under the floor and needed an inside system

Pics 5,8 parging on the ledge gone,this is where most of the water first entered.

Pics 6,7 thats the 'T' tile. Some of these inside system companies try and tell homeowners they can replace this T tile from INSIDE basement.
That would be impossible!

Last pic, where is all the supposed ruined landscaping?

Armageddon,the movie part 4...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1PiJOL2cRw
2:30 on.......
'Max would like ya to bring back 8-track tapes'
'Ever see Pulp Fiction?'
'Oooh say can you see'
'O gee lady,i jst came here to drill......Oh,so did I'
'Wanna compare brainpans?'
'Who`s Jethro Tull?'
'Can i like get a hug from you or something'
'Ok cyclops lady is starting to bug me'
'Woman w/large......woman w/medium......'
'This one looks like you with....
'The Cubs win the World Series!'

[john bubber]

Basement Insulation Systems
http://www.eere.energy.gov/buildings...s/db/35017.pdf

Page 2.
Photographs 1-4 ...illustrate the two approaches,fiberglass-poly,blanket insulation w/vinyl,blanket insulation w/aluminum foil

The experience by the Building Science Consortium with these two approaches has been bad.

The Building Science Consortium has concluded that these two approaches are unsuitable for use....due to serious problems associated with mold,decay and odors.This is consistent with reports from Canada
where basements are insulated in a similar manner and from other researchers in the United States.....CONTINUED use of these approaches.....will likely lead to a disaster of unprecedented proportions

And what do many-most inside system companies place against part or all of the inside basement wall(s)? Yeah man.

http://cbs2chicago.com/topstories/fl....2.332560.html
Video on right. Another inside system terd.
What did they put against inside walls? Incompetent dumbchtt.

Basement Systems? Yeah they cover/hide walls too.
http://www.bobvila.com/Showrooms/Bas...ms/video7.html

B Dry and many others.

http://www2.snapfish.com/thumbnailsh...283_111847456/
Homeowners bought this house and were told the inside system/sump was all they needed,would never leak,never have mold problems and a bunch of other shtt.
And so ya know,the GRADE was raised and sloped away....ok? Pfffttt.

Pic`s 1-9. What the inside walls look like,the inside system and sump,more mold,leaks,
some cracks widening a bit. Hey umm,what did they place against the lower blocks?
Those lower blocks ARE deteriorating.....got that? Mold on the mfrs too,behind the
dumbchtt vinyl crap.

Pic 10 on... What and where the REAL g dang problems have ALWAYS been! Dumb fcs.
Vertical and horizontal cracks etc.Clay against basement wall.

Please do tell my dumb azz, did the inside system company correctly & honestly IDENTIFY
the existing-problems/defects where water was entering? Yes or fcg no please.
THIS....incompetent blchhttt happens ALL-the-time.
Did installing the inside system repair/waterproof the existing cracks/defects?
Did the inside system STOP-ELIMINATE water from entering?
Did it help stop mold,efflorescence?
Idiots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


George Carlin/State Prison Farms video
http://www.videosift.com/video/Georg...e-Prison-Farms
ya see, there`s nothing wrong with blo_ing yer cat. it`s a victimless hobby and
think of how good the cat must feel!
the difference between MANIACS and CRAZY people.....a maniac will beat 9 people to
death with a steel dildo....a crazy person will beat 9 people to death with a steel dildo BUT
he`ll be wearing a Bugs Bunny Suit at the time!

[john bubber]

Basement waterproofing.....GUIDE.Really???
http://www.inspectapedia.com/interio...ent_Sealer.htm

THEY claim....it is possible to seal the concrete or concrete blocks..........
from the interior and stop water and gas migration into a basement! lol

You might wanna re-think this.Water,gas,insects etc can still get into the
blocks and cause mold,efflorescence,deterioration of blocks when there are exterior cracks,loose-cracked parging etc.Have to correctly identify
the problem(s)! Not just apply crap on inide basement walls,that would be
incompetent.
http://photosmart.hpphoto.com/FilmSt...711e507&SKU=HP

Last para.....how come this guy understands most yet Inside system Co`s and Inspectapedia apparently does not
http://homes.winnipegfreepress.com/i...=article&id=24

[Marcel R. Cyr]

John, nice to see you back.

I agree, with you, that trying to fix a leaking basement on the interior can be futile.

How would one fix this on the interior?









They only product that I found that might possibly come close for fixing cracks in concrete that is stabilized from movement is this here:

http://www.xypex.com/why/applicators/repairs.php#

http://www.xypex.com/why/applicators/coatings.php

http://www.xypex.com/products/products.php

Nice to see you back.

[john bubber]

Marcel,

Does that basement leak in/along one area,one wall or is it like that all the way around?

Would have to check several things regardless.For instance,would check and see if there was any problem/blockage in lateral line and would likely
run a hose/water test on the outside of any area water enters inside.

One thing on some poured walls, sometimes there are gaps along cold joint
....on the outside,just like you/someone put a trowel in cold joint inside.
So if/when THIS is part or all of problem then it has to waterproofed outside in order to seal the gaps-along-joint.

Some can have that AND a crack or 2 or an opening in an exterior seam
that may or may not be visible on the inside......see pic`s here
http://www2.snapfish.com/thumbnailsh...283_111847456/
First 3 pic`s are what INSIDE looks like in leaky area
1.See diagonal crack (some leaky rod holes too) The pipe ya see is sump pump discharge and BEHIND that there is a vertical seam

This homeowner got water in....yes through some rod holes but also at
bottom of wall,floor-wall joint at bottom of SEAM,behind the discharge pipe. The water ya see on INSIDE that LOOKS like it comes through
the diagonal crack actually was coming THROUGH the one rod hole!

One point here.....those who only,most often do poured wall INJECTIONS of cracks would inject this DIAGONAL crack and fix the rod holes....right?

Well, this homeowner and others would have STILL LEAKED lol.....yes.
Because on the outside of-near the SEAM you`ll see what would still be left open.....see pic`s 5,6,7.

Is THIS crack you see on outside of basement wall VISIBLE on the INSIDE?????
Experience of what MIGHT/CAN exist on the outside,in-near-along a SEAM would guide
an honest-exp`d contractor to the LIKELY conclusion and real remedy.....outside.
They would NOT recommend any interior injections when they`ve repeatedly seen
and most often is on the outside.

That diagonal crack really is not open on the outside of wall! See pic 10,you`ll see
some dampness and shtt but that diagonal crack that is visible inside really isn`t open
outside BUT,the vertical crack/seam is!!!

They would still need to hand dig/waterproof this area because the inside-dorks have no idea THAT crack/seam is open on the outside.The homeowners would be OUT $400-600 plus rod holes cost and still need to PAY to have exterior done. There was a large bush right on the outside
of this area,roots galore....clay soil.

Charged homeowner $1,175 (7' deep) plus $20 per rod hole.
IF some goof told them they needed an injection they would be out
$400-600....at least and then MANY other contractors charge alot more
than $1,175 for something like this.

Anyone see WHY quite a few who only-mostly do INJECTIONS have quite a few
BBB customer complaints???? This is just ONE reason. One who only does injections,
no exterior waterprooing is the Crack head Team,have posted-shown THEY have quite
a few customer complaints...see why?
Can some also see WHY a home inspector should NOT recommend INJECTIONS of
poured wall cracks OR if they do then THIS is EXACTLY what can get them in trouble.

I`ll try and find pic`s i have of exterior cold joint gaps,where i`m sticking
a scraper right in the gaps/opening along exterior joint joint,and post them. IF....thats part of problem at house/basement you ask then it`ll need to be done outside.

[john bubber]

ANOTHER new driveway,was recommended by city and was SUPPOSED ta be THE 'solution' for leaky basement.
http://www2.snapfish.com/thumbnailsh...283_111847456/

Is the new driveway pitched UP and AWAY enough for those who believe this to be some sort of solution???

They FAILED to FIRST......IDENTIFY any-all of the actual ways water is allowed to enter.Instead,blindly-believing/assuming the GRADE will solve most leaky basements....hear this CRAP ALL the time and its NOT TRUE!
J Krsitmas man!!

In fact.....this kind of crap/recommendations are incompetent.
Do you see water in the basement...AFTER the dumb new driveway was
poured??? See any mold DUE to the water enterin he basement?

The TRUE problems are open rod holes,openings ABOVE GRADE in chinmey,around side door,around and under basement window(s) on drive side and some open mortar joints etc and possibly, one or more cracks or MORE open rod holes BEHIND the paneling on the drive-side.

In pic 1, ya even see a lil drainage ditch/tile in curb,that doesn`t FIX squat either.Have to FIND.....the problems,then duh FIX them correctly.

Pouring a new driveway,raising the GRADE/soil,mudjacking slabs etc does
NOT 'identify' ANYONE`s problem(s)....never has! And OBVIOUSLY does not fix/repair whatever the problems turn out to be,like a crack or rod holes or open mortar joints in chimney etc etc etc etc.

These peeps just bought house,GRADE WAS RAISED...were told no basement leaks.
Duh, then why the hlll are WE there,why these pics?
The GRADE in front was raised 16-20", did it SOLVE the problem?
http://www2.snapfish.com/thumbnailsh...283_111847456/

What`s the real-actual problems? How`s the water allowed to enter,REGARDLESS of the dumb grade!

Even took MORE picturs of the dumb grade,first 5-6 pic`s. Is it high enough and sloped
away for ya? Did it 'identify' the actual problems???
http://www2.snapfish.com/thumbnailsh...283_111847456/

Those who recommend adding soil,raising & sloping the grade away,new driveways etc as a solution for leaky basements are incompetent,oh yes they are. Got MILK?

[john bubber]

Originally Posted by john bubber

Marcel,

Does that basement leak in/along one area,one wall or is it like that all the way around?

Would have to check several things regardless.For instance,would check and see if there was any problem/blockage in lateral line and would likely
run a hose/water test on the outside of any area water enters inside.

One thing on some poured walls, sometimes there are gaps along cold joint
....on the outside,just like you/someone put a trowel in cold joint inside.
So if/when THIS is part or all of problem then it has to waterproofed outside in order to seal the gaps-along-joint.

Some can have that AND a crack or 2 or an opening in an exterior seam
that may or may not be visible on the inside......see pic`s here
http://www2.snapfish.com/thumbnailsh...283_111847456/
First 3 pic`s are what INSIDE looks like in leaky area
1.See diagonal crack (some leaky rod holes too) The pipe ya see is sump pump discharge and BEHIND that there is a vertical seam

This homeowner got water in....yes through some rod holes but also at
bottom of wall,floor-wall joint at bottom of SEAM,behind the discharge pipe. The water ya see on INSIDE that LOOKS like it comes through
the diagonal crack actually was coming THROUGH the one rod hole!

One point here.....those who only,most often do poured wall INJECTIONS of cracks would inject this DIAGONAL crack and fix the rod holes....right?

Well, this homeowner and others would have STILL LEAKED lol.....yes.
Because on the outside of-near the SEAM you`ll see what would still be left open.....see pic`s 5,6,7.

Is THIS crack you see on outside of basement wall VISIBLE on the INSIDE?????
Experience of what MIGHT/CAN exist on the outside,in-near-along a SEAM would guide
an honest-exp`d contractor to the LIKELY conclusion and real remedy.....outside.
They would NOT recommend any interior injections when they`ve repeatedly seen
and most often is on the outside.

That diagonal crack really is not open on the outside of wall! See pic 10,you`ll see
some dampness and shtt but that diagonal crack that is visible inside really isn`t open
outside BUT,the vertical crack/seam is!!!

They would still need to hand dig/waterproof this area because the inside-dorks have no idea THAT crack/seam is open on the outside.The homeowners would be OUT $400-600 plus rod holes cost and still need to PAY to have exterior done. There was a large bush right on the outside
of this area,roots galore....clay soil.

Charged homeowner $1,175 (7' deep) plus $20 per rod hole.
IF some goof told them they needed an injection they would be out
$400-600....at least and then MANY other contractors charge alot more
than $1,175 for something like this.

Anyone see WHY quite a few who only-mostly do INJECTIONS have quite a few
BBB customer complaints???? This is just ONE reason. One who only does injections,
no exterior waterprooing is the Crack head Team,have posted-shown THEY have quite
a few customer complaints...see why?
Can some also see WHY a home inspector should NOT recommend INJECTIONS of
poured wall cracks OR if they do then THIS is EXACTLY what can get them in trouble.

I`ll try and find pic`s i have of exterior cold joint gaps,where i`m sticking
a scraper right in the gaps/opening along exterior joint joint,and post them. IF....thats part of problem at house/basement you ask then it`ll need to be done outside.

Anybody wanna give this picture set a go?
Diagonal crack seen inside,doesn`t go through/penetrate through yet many will sell homeowners $400-650 injections for these and MISS
the vertical crack/seam outside,will still leak and still need that area waterproofed outside.....got milk?