something else to chew on

[john bubber]

Example....the all-mighty BIG companies who only-mostly install inside
systems, why ya think it is they continue to accumulate BBB Customer
Complaints, Huh?

here`s one... how many customer complaints do they apparently have in JUST the LAST 36 months, huh? Then see 'Gov`t actions'
http://www.pittsburgh.bbb.org/nis/ne...41000012000052 not for sales or promotional purposes ...simply to inform

Well, ...its due to several things, first they do NOT DEFINE-determine where water is FIRST-entering....most could care less and tell HO`s this. These companies figure/think that every house/basement needs an Inside drain tile/baseboard system...clueless!

Somehow, they figure that installing an inside system solves the water problems/issues....wrong thought process! As i`ve redundantly stated and KNOW, most peoples problems as to why/where water is FIRST entering is on the Outside and re-grading and/or extending those downspouts 1 mile away from the house doesn`t solve/waterproof the OPENINGS which water is entering...THATS the problem(s)....direct openings.

Most of these companies either don`t care or quite possibly don`t have the expertise needed to stop/prevent water from first-entering. Hey, guess what... also appears they don`t understand what expanding-contracting soil pressure and tree roots can do to a basement wall, they prolly don`t give a shtt, and in more cases than not, try and sell most HO`s a full-inside-perimeter system, just sign here and give up that $6,000-20,000G for a system that diverts water that will continue to enter, under the floor and usually to a sump.

It isn`t "Waterproofing"....at best it is water-DIVERTING. So quit with the lies/bs-claims please. Waterproofing is..."made of, or coated or treated with rubber,plastic or a sealing agent to PREVENT-the-PENETRATION of water"...duh!

They don`t 'waterproof' crack(s) and other exterior openings, they allow water to continue to enter, increasing chance for mold,efflorescence,paint peeling, insects entering, cracks WIDENING, wall bowing in...not any mystery as to why they have and will continue to have customers complaining...got milk?

http://photosmart.hpphoto.com/FilmSt...711e507&SKU=HP


Then ,there are always some who somehow conclude they can simply PAINT the inside basement walls, say with Drylok...and that by painting it`ll stop water from entering...wake up people will ya please. LOOK at those pics, THINK!!! How will painting the inside walls stop/prevent water-moisture etc from entering crack(s) on the.... OUTSIDE, huh? NOT gonna happen, but go ahead and paint all ya like. Go ahead and apply 39 coats to inside of this wall, then i`ll come by and run a hose-water test of outside and we`ll see whose right, we`ll see just how great that paint holds up, lol. Crock O shtt. And then the claims of some of these who make paint, like "it`ll stop a 10' wall of water from entering" and lots of other bs claims
Now, any homeowner who wants an inside system then call em, they`ll be over pretty quick, go right ahead, its your house.

[Peter C. Russell]

Bla, bla, bla, Bla , Bka ba..............................

And so on and so on and so on and so on

[john bubber]

HA!! Exactly the response i get from MANY home inspectors who 'think' they know-it-all! Whats the matter, can`t handle the truth? What YOU thought/assumed was right...isn`t? Yep...

Problem with many--Not all of YOU inspectors is you been recommending the WRONG shtt and now, can`t handle the truth! Makes ya look kinda bad huh, tough!! Its no wonder some of you have and will continue to LOSE/cough up that inspection fee for your screw ups. Yeah yeah, its your 'blah blah' shtt that has cost many homeowners lots of money, certainly when it comes to your supposed-foundation-inspections. Many HONEST-hard working contractors cannot stand some of you pin-head inspectors, see some of ya`s in court in the future due to your contine screw ups, loser!

Originally Posted by prussell

Bla, bla, bla, Bla , Bka ba..............................

And so on and so on and so on and so on

[john bubber]

Oh, and Petey.... hey, i searched what you apparently use as your business/inspection name on BBB, can`t find any listing. are you hiding from them, the public? Have a different Inspection name maybe? Start knocking my azz expect the SAME in return..g dammitttttttt!

I see many posts about all kinds of crap, maybe just trying to kill time, and thats fine, just fine, lovely! Its ok for some of you to ramble on, talk about shtt that has nothing to do with helping people so please stay off my rear. thank you

Originally Posted by prussell

Bla, bla, bla, Bla , Bka ba..............................

And so on and so on and so on and so on

[john bubber]

Chuch Berry...." Looked at my watch, it was a quata ta 9:00 she said "Oooh Chuck baby this sure feels fine we were....reelin`-rockin` `n rollin` child, reelin and a rockin, rollin till the break of dawn"

'Like sand through the hour glass, so are the digs of our lives' HAAAAA!

Block wall, 25' x 6' deep, roots galore...cost for this job $1975, one day job..Pics not the greatest, so sorry

http://photosmart.hpphoto.com/FilmSt...lView&index=10#

Where is all the ruined landscaping, huh?
Where is the so-called super expensive cost?
QUIT making FASLE claims please ya Inside water-diverting knotheads

pic 1-4) hand digging it down, easy? Try just one for yourself, then we`ll talk...got milk? Wall was done before, they backfilled with same soil-CLAY, backfilled with maybe 3 wheelbarrows of `stone, lolol, cheap sobs. Pic 2, ya may be able to see some efflorescence on first course of bricks, just above top of wall. Grade was raised up against UN-protected bricks and there were openings in the mortar joints. Before one raises the grade one should seal the porous bricks and openings in mortar joints...thats right. Otherwise you might CAUSE a problem,a leak

They applied a thin-damproof asphalt, not enough, won`t last! Waterproof, don`t damproof.

5) backwall-yard of house, not so good huh, So sorry...
6-7) the LIL `stone they backfilled with was at-near corners
8 about 2/3 of the clay they backfilled with in street
9,10,11) drain tiles laid next to/along footing..NUTTIN` wrong with them and even if there was, its NOT why/how/where water is entering. Clay tiles are much thicker/heavier/stronger than any plastic perf tile that quite a few builders still use. Manufacturer of plastic tiles states "We do NOT recommend the use of plastic perf tile at DEPTHS greater than 1.2 meters, they can collapse" -flatten out due to WEIGHT of soil/backfill.

Drain tiles laid along a footing of a VERTICAL wall has nothing to do with water that enters a crack or other opening. On the other hand, tiles laid under a HORIZONTAL bsmt floor 'could-might' become clogged/partial or full blockage, could cause some water to back up under the floor, still has nothing to do with water entering through cracks in walls or openings ABOVE ground which is indeed most homeowners problems

Way to go Mr builder and....city inspectors who, apparently ok the inspections of this. Hmm, builder and inspector know more than manufacturer, more than waterproofing contractor huh? More bllchtt.

12) hairline horizontal crack, runs end to end, can`t see it in pic. But it`s there! And it allows water to enter blocks, cause mold/efflorescence/paint peeling. Since its a smaller/thinner crack then, it takes a longer/heavier rain for it to leak, for water to come onto floor at-near cold joint...yup, doesn`t leak as often as a wall with bigger/wider crack

13-16) thick asphalt/visqueen on wall after hydr cement
17) the crew...please don`t pizz em off, their arms are wider than yer head.
19) part of peastone used to backfill and no, stick wasn`t backfilled
20-21) company who hauls clay/roots/bricks and other crap away
22) alomst done, fuzzy huh
23) what back wall-yard-grade looks like after job is done...where is all the ruined landscaping, huh? Where`s the big mess?
24) street cleaned up, ready to roll home, take a dump and do it all over again tomorrow

Rush--Working Man http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlGFxzA5q2Q

[Dale Duffy]

http://photosmart.hpphoto.com/FilmSt...lView&index=10#

Where is all the ruined landscaping, huh?
Where is the so-called super expensive cost?
QUIT making FASLE claims please ya Inside water-diverting knotheads

Mark I sure wish there were basements in Scottsdale, that leaked water, it does not rain enough here to even support a cactus some years........

But....!!

If I ever loose my mind and move to some place it does rain, and there are basements, at least I will know to show all perspective waterproof (needed) future basement owners to come here first, and read what can be done about the problem.

So...!!!

In the mean time.................Carry On..........

Got Milk?.......................

Man you Crack me up.................

[john bubber]

Mr D

Hey Dale.....been to Scottsdale AZ....very very nice area. So too is city that is close to Scottsdale...i think it`s Paradise Valley....know what else i noticed when there? The ladies don`t wear much clothing

What you AZ folks need is either a good NFL team or get those Suns over
the hump `n win an NBA championship

And oh, hey, i`m not too keen on yer boy J McCain, any friend/loyalist of
G Dub has more than one screw loose...got milk?

Land of Confusion--Genesis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U71w7...related&search=

[john bubber]

Poured walls, cracks `n other direct openings which, ahem, allow water to enter....got milk?

http://photosmart.hpphoto.com/FilmSt...5ca0be7&SKU=HP#

Good luck with injecting those first few pics/cracks etc. Many of these larger cracks will re-leak after trying to inject from inside because of expanding/contracting soil pressure and tree roots on outside of wall. In other pics posted, roots can grow into a crack and can grow against a wall, push on a wall, re-open da-crack. And no, the hydraulic cement on bricks will not be visible after backfilling

Have yet to see one injection of crack in poured wall that went....all the way through to the outsde, not one in 29 yrs. Yeah, many who do these injections tell you their epoxy etc goes all the way through but, like many other claims, just more bllchtttt....dang skippy.

Some homeowners have other-openings in same area where crack is, see pic`s.....openings in mortar joints, under door etc so, injecting a crack doesn`t seal the other openings that also allow water/insects/radon in. These opening between bricks and along ledge are often below grade...DON`T raise the grade against porous bricks/open mortar joints...hello?

You want to try and inject smaller cracks in poured wall go ahead, some will last quite some time and just as many won`t.

And Your Bird Can Sing--Beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovMj6...elated&search=

[john bubber]

http://www.ifilm.com/video/2673915 <-- Bernie LaPlante, Gayle (got milk?) and yours truly........John Bubber!

[john bubber]

a pic of the corner of house, block wall with back porch that begins at the corner.

porch has block footing...now why not add the addidtional block or at least backfill under-bottom of footing for a lil more support,huh? And waterproof the wall/part of the wall where one is thinking about building a porch against the house will ya please.

hairline horizontal crack thats barely, if at all visible at top of first block off footing.
http://photosmart.hpphoto.com/FilmSt...ed9f507&SKU=HP

[john bubber]

http://www.wpxi.com/consumer/3282039/detail.html

got insects?

do you leave the door open for them to come in? leave the windows open?

see those pic`s, cracks `n other openings....these lil fellas can certainly enter through those pathways.

"Exterminators say once they move inside your walls-there are so many of them its impractical to use a pesticide, may scatter the colony" well then, keep em the hlll out to begin with.

"But ants, like termites will stay in your home if there`s one thing available to them: moisture"

And for the 8,000th time lolol, will any Inside drain tile or baseboard system w/sump help stop water `n moisture `n insects from entering through cracks `n OTHER openings, HUH? shtt!

....another Pleasant Valley Sunday....insects runnin` everywhere
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwJVTZLlmBw

[john bubber]

poured wall, various entry-points.

http://photosmart.hpphoto.com/FilmSt...=FilmstripView#

ya may have to click "back"....on right side....dunno what the shtt i`m doin wrong

finished basement,she only sees water come onto floor along cold joint.ran a hose/water test along ground level to DETERMINE if there was a crack/other opening(s) below grade, in wall etc....already could tell she had problems with mortar joints-water entering through the joints and the basement window.

after running the hose at ground level for a few minutes, sure enough, water on floor so she needed this area waterproofed, about 18' x 7' deep.

if NO water had entered then all her problems/leak would have been due to openings ABOVE ground and she would only need some tuckpointing and replace basement window.

Companies who only/most always do INSIDE systems did NOT try/care to determine shtt, the 3 companies she had estimates from told her house was in a high water table area and water was coming up through the cove/cold joint and only way to fix it was to install a full inside drain tile system, their estimates ranged from $6,500-$14,000.....SCAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Lies and blllllchtttt!

Mr builder & friends backfilled with LOTS of wood,bricks,same soil and, of course, did not waterproof. They left quite a few openings along grade,under sill and check out pics 9-12 lolol...forget something? Where was City-inspector....huh?

Pics 14 & 15 is what was 'loosely' placed on ledge....bricks above this exact area had step & horizontal cracks in joints...someone used white caulk in some of the joints.

They actually did apply mortar over rod holes, what do ya know! Was thin though, tapped out the thin mortar to show, pics 5-7

[john bubber]

pics a lil bigger? sorry, best this rookie can do! got milk?

http://photosmart.hpphoto.com/FilmSt...975febe&SKU=HP#

[john bubber]

THE Girlfriend, THE Bourbon...got milk?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYlDr...related&search=


...Beavers are our furry friends

[Richard A. Hetzel]

...and THE waterproofer!