Split rafters over garage

[Sean Fogarty]

Hip style roof added onto the side of the home for garage addition. Rafters split down the middle.
For some odd reason they also took the corner beams and cut them in half lenght ways as well about half way up.
No obvious problems were noted but why split the rafters?

[Sean Fogarty]

Bueller, Bueller??

Wow, you guys are on the ball tonight.

[Jeffrey R. Pope]

Originally Posted by sfogarty

Bueller, Bueller??

Wow, you guys are on the ball tonight.

Just in from working all day myself...

I'm not sure I see what you're referring to. What is the actual dimension of the rafter?

[John Gromkoski]

I'm not sure either. The spacing between the rafters seems excessive.

[Pete Campbell]

Do you know if it was a permitted addition?

I tend to think not. What was the approx. length of the rafters?

I do not see any advantage to framing like that, unless they thought they were stiffening the middle of the span. But that would have been better done with blocking.

Did the rest of the work look like the 3 Stooges did it with short-cuts?

[John Gromkoski]

Ohhhhhhh. The rafters don't run the full length down to the plate. Is that what you are referring to?

[Sean Fogarty]

Jeff answered it. Barry did also. It has to do with length from top to bottom. They were split half way down and supported. The roof was stable but still want to CYA.

[Sean Fogarty]

Originally Posted by jgromkoski

Ohhhhhhh. The rafters don't run the full length down to the plate. Is that what you are referring to?

Glad to see the little light bulb come on John.

[Larry D. Kage]

It looks like they hacked out part of the hip rafter to install the upright support and then continued with a hip rafter that is too small. Also, there are not adequate connections made at the rafter and beam joints. And the beam appears too small. It is a bastard hip for sure. I'd not want a heavy snow load or large inspector up there.

[Jeffrey R. Pope]

My jurisdiction would require hangers, but I don't think those are available in TN

[Sean Fogarty]

I noted it and suggested them have it further investigated if they choose to. I said it seemed to be functioning but not a common building practice.

How do they continually come up with ways to do this stuff is beyond me.

[Joe Funderburk, CMI]

"Unorthodox attic framing methods." Refer to a PE.

[Christopher Currins]

Originally Posted by sfogarty

How do they continually come up with ways to do this stuff is beyond me.

http://www.knoxnews.com/data/East-Tennessee-meth/

[Joe Funderburk, CMI]

Some good illustrations here: http://www.nachi.org/gallery/framing/framing.

[Jeffrey R. Pope]

Originally Posted by jfunderburk

Refer to a PE.

Absolutely unnecessary. Conventional framing does not require engineering.

Dimensional lumber has already been "engineered" to carry specific loads based on size, spacing and span. Any qualified framing contractor can make necessary modifications and/or corrections.

Only engineered systems (such as trusses) require evaluation, design and approval from a PE.