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Old 9/25/07, 7:45 PM
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As I read it, the break line is completely separate from the left edge of the hole. Curious.
Typical Architect/Engineer, they always leave it to the Contractors interpetation and when it fails, they say it was not done as it was drawn or intended. ha. ha.

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Of course, the architect/engineer could say "typical contractor, can't read drawings", and in this case he'd be right.
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Of course, the architect/engineer could say "typical contractor, can't read drawings", and in this case he'd be right.
Well, I guess I asked for that one Richard, didn't I? ha ha

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Model building codes and typical job specs refer to AISC and AWS specifications for steel fabrication, which require that any interior corners ("re-entrant" corners) on cut steel ... such as the corners of the hole in the diagram Marcel posted ... be rounded, with the radius depending on the application/materials. In addition the cut surface must be reasonably smooth (2,000 u" or less).

I agree that the left side of the hole should also show rounded corners and/or that radius call-out should say "Typical". However, builders still need to know and follow the AISC/AWS fabrication specifications.

But any steel holes or cut-outs should be designed.

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Model building codes and typical job specs refer to AISC and AWS specifications for steel fabrication, which require that any interior corners ("re-entrant" corners) on cut steel ... such as the corners of the hole in the diagram Marcel posted ... be rounded depending on the location/application. In addition the cut surface must be reasonably smooth (2,000 u" or less).

I agree that the left side of the hole should also show rounded corners and/or that radius call-out should say "Typical". However, builders still need to know and follow the AISC/AWS fabrication specifications.

But any steel holes or cut-outs should be designed.

JMO
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