Steel Frame construction

[Jeffrey S. Campbell]

anyone have any good information on steel frame construction for inspection purposes... I've been asked to inspection one in a few weeks and want to learn about it first to decide if it is something i want to do or take more time to learn for the next one.

any info or CE info would be great!

thanks
Jeff

[Marcel R. Cyr]

Originally Posted by jcampbell

anyone have any good information on steel frame construction for inspection purposes... I've been asked to inspection one in a few weeks and want to learn about it first to decide if it is something i want to do or take more time to learn for the next one.

thanks
Jeff

Jeff, if you need help with this, I am here. Just define what kind of steel frame you are talking about and I can help you.

If there is steel frame, there are Purlins, anchor bolts, 325 bolts 325 TC bolts, bar joist, steel bridging, decking, Type B, painted, Type C, galvanized,
Seating minimums, Bolted connections, moment connections, and the list goes on. Then there is the simple pre-engineered Steel Building.

Just e-mail me or call me during the day at 751-8406.

Marcel

[Barry Adair]

I've done a number of light gauge steel frames and am also available 6PM-10PM if you'd like to talk about them. I have free LD so e-mail me if the toll charges are a problem and I'll call you.

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Steel framing (Building)
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[Marcel R. Cyr]

Thanks Barry;

I was probably on the wrong track, because when someone says steel frame, I immediately think something like this;

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I have read quite a bit about the pictures you show, but never seen them up here. Don't know if it has anything to do with the snow loads. Never went in that deep.

How common is light gauge Metal framing in your area?

Marcel

[Barry Adair]

Originally Posted by mcyr

How common is light gauge Metal framing in your area?

Marcel

Love the smell of red iron hanging in the morning

I as well may have misinterpreted Jeff's post but I knew where your mind went just as soon as I'd seen your reply.

That would have been my knee jerk response 20 years ago.

Not much but I had a great run in the pictured subdivision while the were being constructed.
There's a push in some areas and there have been a few more subdivisions that solely use this technology.
Not a stick of wood to be found unless it's for backing.

I've only been involved with 1 house that wasn't single story.

[Jeffrey S. Campbell]

i just got some more information... here is a link to the home we are looking at...

http://mreis.mlxchange.com/Pub/Email...10&s=MRE&t=MRE

[Marcel R. Cyr]

Originally Posted by jcampbell

anyone have any good information on steel frame construction for inspection purposes... I've been asked to inspection one in a few weeks and want to learn about it first to decide if it is something i want to do or take more time to learn for the next one.

any info or CE info would be great!

thanks
Jeff

Well, that is much better than Bangor, ha. ha.

We were thinking of what you posted here. This one does not fit the category, unless I am missing something.

Marcel

[Jeffrey S. Campbell]

i was misled a little... but it is still steel framed... i am asking for more info... but it appears like a typical residential inspection i will just do a little homework on the steel framing...

much better than Bangor too... buyer is contacting a structural engineer to go look at the place... do you know any good ones that could do something like that? not sure who will be paying for that... but if he plans to pursue the building it needs to be done.

that same house (bangor) had all teh copper stolen last year while vacant... all been re-piped! but they left the knob and tube!!!!

[Richard A. Hetzel]

It is probably light-gauge steel framing. If so, the connections are critical, and chances are, few of them will be visible. It's a matter basically of number and type of screws, and the pattern of them. The best way to inspect it would be to try to obtain a set of the construction documents. They should have the critical connections detailed on them. Other issues are member width, depth and gauge, and again, the best way to inspect would be to check what members you can see against the construction documents.

[Marcel R. Cyr]

Originally Posted by jcampbell

i was misled a little... but it is still steel framed... i am asking for more info... but it appears like a typical residential inspection i will just do a little homework on the steel framing...

much better than Bangor too... buyer is contacting a structural engineer to go look at the place... do you know any good ones that could do something like that? not sure who will be paying for that... but if he plans to pursue the building it needs to be done.

that same house (bangor) had all teh copper stolen last year while vacant... all been re-piped! but they left the knob and tube!!!!

I actually know a bunch of structural Engineers, but never persued asking them to do this kind of thing.
If I had to guess, it would not be cheap.

I will find out.

There is one I worked with alot in Brunswick, and I will find out.

I am thinking of sharing the technical knowledge concept, and teaming up with a structural Engineer. He does the calculations and I do the rest. ha. ha.

Marcel

[Jeffrey S. Campbell]

Originally Posted by Richard A. Hetzel

It is probably light-gauge steel framing. If so, the connections are critical, and chances are, few of them will be visible. It's a matter basically of number and type of screws, and the pattern of them. The best way to inspect it would be to try to obtain a set of the construction documents. They should have the critical connections detailed on them. Other issues are member width, depth and gauge, and again, the best way to inspect would be to check what members you can see against the construction documents.

some information i have received is the home is part of an estate... the seller has never lived there... gotten all his information from a previous owner... the house was built in 98... i will see what is available for drawings but i suspect it will be quite a task to track them down.

[Marcel R. Cyr]

Originally Posted by jcampbell

some information i have received is the home is part of an estate... the seller has never lived there... gotten all his information from a previous owner... the house was built in 98... i will see what is available for drawings but i suspect it will be quite a task to track them down.

Jeff, take lots of pictures and post them, there are a bunch of people here that can help, believe me. I know.

If you see any connections that are structurally connected, you should see some #10 or #12 screws (teks) in the panel points and that is why you would not know if there is something wrong unless you have the shop drawings on the engineered system.

Marcel

[Barry Adair]

IRC R603 & R804

[Marcel R. Cyr]

I think this website will help also ;

http://www.dietrichindustries.com/canada/

That is where most of our framing supplies come from.

Marcel

[Jeffrey S. Campbell]

hey... i've been out all day and actually stopped by and got a early peak at this one... inspection on Saturday. but i will post a few photos in a bit...

Marcel, did you ever come up with an engineer name for me?