Support post for Beam, is this right?

[William Warner]

Not to add fuel to the fire, but ....

Are steel posts required to be tied to steel I-beams? Or is this dependent on local jurisdictions and seismic activity areas?



The bottom is constrained in basement slab.

[rwand1]

Yes bolted or welded or the metal strapps wrapped around bottom of i-beam.

[Brian E. Kelly]

Well ,if they are using an engineered lally column it would depend on the manufacturers guidelines.

http://www.strongtie.com/products/connectors/LCC.html

Keep in mind this only pertains if they used engineered steel, and structural welding programs, and engineered welding rod .

[Brian E. Kelly]

My point is as an AZ HI I am required to call out any columns I see, that being said I would not hazard a guess as to if said column is installed correctly. Where is the upside for me as a HI??????

[rwand1]

Call out any columns you see? You mean columns that are in question as to installation or other signs of distress?

[Brian E. Kelly]

SYSTEM: STRUCTURAL COMPONENTS4.1 The inspector shall observe:
A. structural components including:

• • foundation.
    floors.
    walls.
    columns.
    ceilings.
  • roofs.

http://www.btr.state.az.us/AZ%20Ashi%20Standards.htm

[William Warner]

I definitely flagged it as a concern, but I believe local jurisdictions overlook these issues as we (like many areas of the US and Canada) have not been prone to sustained high winds and/or large or high seismic events and activity ......yet.

[Brian E. Kelly]

Originally Posted by wwarner

I definitely flagged it as a concern, but I believe local jurisdictions overlook these issues as we (like many areas of the US and Canada) have not been prone to sustained high winds and/or large or high seismic events and activity ......yet.

Has your area ever been prone to inferior construction practices??????

[William Warner]

Originally Posted by bkelly2

Has your area ever been prone to inferior construction practices??????

Uhhh... nope.... not that I can recall... but thanks for asking!

[Brian E. Kelly]

Originally Posted by wwarner

Uhhh... nope.... not that I can recall... but thanks for asking!

You are killing me William. ROTFLMAO

[Robert J. OConnor]

Some type of connection is required, and if it's a simple bearing end it could be a small weld on each side of the beam where it meets the plate (hidden from the photo view).

[rwand1]

We have had Tornadoes in my area. We have also had our fair share of Terra Mottos although minor tremblers at best.

[Marcel R. Cyr]

This is ironic, because one post that was on before showed the same problem with top plate orientation to the beam support, which was wood.

This time it is of steel construction and the orientation to the beam is wrong.

The top post plate is to thin and the top plate should have been bolted with four A325 bolts.

There appears to be a seam in the pipe column and this would indicate that it is of a schedule 20 in lieu of a schedule 40 for this type of steel beam support.

Not knowing the support load, Seismic activity zone and jurisdiction it falls under for local code requirements, all this is speculation.

Minimum weld requirements for this installation in lieu of structural bolts would be two 1/4" fillet welds on both sides of the post cap bearing 1" long.

I definitely would have called this out to be revived and recommended a structural Engineer to evaluate.

Marcel
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[Brian E. Kelly]

Originally Posted by mcyr

This is ironic, because one post that was on before showed the same problem with top plate orientation to the beam support, which was wood.

This time it is of steel construction and the orientation to the beam is wrong.

The top post plate is to thin and the top plate should have been bolted with four A325 bolts.

There appears to be a seam in the pipe column and this would indicate that it is of a schedule 20 in lieu of a schedule 40 for this type of steel beam support.

Not knowing the support load, Seismic activity zone and jurisdiction it falls under for local code requirements, all this is speculation.

Minimum weld requirements for this installation in lieu of structural bolts would be two 1/4" fillet welds on both sides of the post cap bearing 1" long.

I definitely would have called this out to be revived and recommended a structural Engineer to evaluate.

Marcel
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And I always thought you were a carpenter Marcel?

NICE

[Marcel R. Cyr]

Brian;

That is what happens when born in the Aroostook County in Maine. You get to be a Jack of All Trades and Master of none. LOL I guess a CMI is out of the question. ha. ha.

Marcel
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